b16a/b vs b18b/c vs h22/23 vs b20 FAQ

[KrNxRaCer00]

Considering this is a HUGE debate that is asked frequently on this part of the forums, here's a sticky.

Feel free to say your opinion but please only put out factual information (not just info you "heard.")

I'll keep this open as long as ppl keep it civil and voice their opinions without flaming.

Hope this helps.

[crxlvr]

b16a - Found In EDM and JDM vehicles.
Most Common: 88-91 Civic CRX SiR, 90-93 Integra XSi/RSi

b16a2 - Found In USDM 99-00 Civic Si

B16a3 - Found in USDM 94-95 Del Sol VTEC

B18B - Found In USDM 92+ Integra LS

B18C1 - Found in USDM Integra GSR

B18C5 - Found IN USDM Integra Type R

H22 - Found in Prelude Vtec

H23 - Found In Prelude's that are not VTEC

B20 - Found In CRV

[jmrev]

yeah u are right let me get all the honda engines ill post back.

[jmrev]

Here is just about every single engine code Honda has built. I had some help on this one
**C27??- USDM 2.7L SOHC non-VTEC V6 86-89 Legend (150-160hp)
**C27??- USDM 2.7L SOHC non-VTEC V6 95-97 Accord V6 (170HP)
**C32A5- USDM 3.2L SOHC non-VTEC V6 94-95 Legend GS Sdn, 93-95 Legend Cpe (230hp)
**C32A6 - USDM 3.2L SOHC non-VTEC V6 91-95 Legend Sdn, 91-92 Legend Cpe, 96-98 3.2TL (200hp)
**C35A2- 3.5L USDM SOHC non-VTEC V6 3.5RL (215-225hp)
**J30A1 - 3.0L USDM SOHC VTEC V6 98-02 Accord V6, 97-99 3.2CL (200hp)
**J35A1 - 3.5L USDM SOHC VTEC V6 98+ Odyessy (210hp)
**J35A3 - 3.5L USDM SOHC VTEC V6 Acura MDX (240hp)
*F23A1- USDM 2.3LSOHC VTEC 98+ Accord EX & LX, 98-99 2.3CL (150hp)
*F23A4- USDM 2.3LSOHC ULEV VTEC 98+ Accord EX & LX (148hp)
*F23A5- USDM 2.3LSOHC 98+ Accord DX (135hp)
*G25A1- USDM 2.5L SOHC non-VTEC I-5 96-98 2.5TL (176hp)
*J25A- JDM 2.5L SOHC VTEC V6 JDM Honda Aspire/Sabre (200ps)
*K20A- JDM 2.0L DOHC i-VTEC '02+ Integra Type R (220ps)
*K20A2- 2.0L DOHC i-VTEC '02+ RSX Type S/'02+ Civic Type R (200hp)
B16A- JDM 1.6L DOHC VTEC- 89-91 Civic Si-R I/CRX Si-R, Integra RSi/XSi (160ps)
B16A- JDM 1.6L DOHC VTEC 92-95 Civic Si-R II/ 92-97 CRX DelSol SiR (170ps)
B16A ver 1 1595cc DOHC VTEC, 150ps(auto)/160ps(man)
B16A ver 2 1595cc DOHC VTEC, 155ps(auto)/170ps(man)
B16A2/3- USDM 1.6L DOHC VTEC 93-97 DelSol VTEC/99-00 Civic Si (160hp)
B16B 1595cc DOHC VTEC, 185ps
B16B- JDM 1.6L DOHC VTEC 98+ Civic Type R (185ps)
B17A1- USDM 1.7L DOHC VTEC 92-93 Integra GS-R (160hp)
B18A1- USDM 1.8L DOHC non-VTEC 90-93 Integra RS/LS/GS (90-91: 130hp / 92-93: 140hp)
B18B1- USDM 1.8L DOHC non-VTEC 94-01 Integra RS/LS/GS (140hp)
B18C .1797cc DOHC VTEC, 170ps(A/T) 180ps(M/T)
B18C- JDM 1.8L DOHC VTEC 94+ Integra SiR-G (180ps)
B18C specR 1797cc DOHC VTEC, 200ps
B18C1- USDM 1.8L DOHC VTEC 94+ Integra GS-R (170hp)
B18C5- USDM 1.8L DOHC VTEC 97+ Integra Type R- (195hp)
B18C6 EURO/UK 1.8L DOHC VTEC 96+ Integra Type R- (190ps)
B18C6/7- JDM 1.8L DOHC VTEC 96+ Integra Type R- (200ps)
B18C7 AUSTRALIAN 1.8L DOHC VTEC 96+ Integra Type R- (190ps)
B20A5- 2.0L DOHC non-VTEC 87-91 Prelude 2.0Si- (135hp)
B20B- 2.0L DOHC non-VTEC 96-98 CR-V (126hp)
B20Z- 2.0L DOHC non-VTEC 99-01 CR-V (143hp)
B21A1- 2.1L DOHC non-VTEC 90-91 Prelude Si (145hp)
C30A ver 1 2977cc V6 DOHC VTEC, 255ps(auto)/280ps(man)
C30A ver 2 2977cc V6 DOHC VTEC, 265ps(auto)/280ps(man)
C30A(?)- 3.0L DOHC VTEC V6 91-96 NSX/NSX-T (270hp)
C32A?- 3.2L DOHC VTEC V6 97+ NSX/NSX-T (290hp)
C32B 3179cc V6 DOHC VTEC, 280ps
D15B 1493cc SOHC VTEC, 130ps
D15B 3stage 1493cc SOHC 3-stage VTEC, 130ps
D15B Eco 1493cc SOHC VTEC-E, 94ps
D15B(?)- 1.5L SOHC non-VTEC '88-'95 Civic's (62-102hp)
D15Z8 1493 SOHC VTEC 114BHP (1995-2000
D16A Eco .1997cc SOHC VTEC-E, 120ps D16A1- 1.6L DOHC 86-89 Integra (86/87 113hp, 88/89 118hp)
D16A6- 1.6L SOHC 88-91 Civic Si/ CRX Si (108hp)
D16Y5- 1.6L SOHC VTEC-E 96-00 Civic HX (115hp)
D16Y7- 1.6L SOHC non-VTEC 96+ Civic CX/DX/LX (106hp)
D16Y8- 1.6L SOHC VTEC 96+ Civic EX (127hp)
D16Z6- 1.6L SOHC VTEC 92-95 Civic EX/Si (125hp)
D17A1- 1.7L SOHC non-VTEC '01+ Civic DX/LX (115hp)
D17A2- 1.7L SOHC VTEC-E 01 Civic EX (127hp)
EV1 = 1342cc SOHC CVCC carb '84 CRX, '84-'87 Civic
EW1 = 1488cc SOHC CVCC carb '84-'87 Civic/CRX (USDM)
EW2 = 1488cc SOHC non-CVCC SOHC EFI '84-'87 Civic/CRX (CDM)
EW3 = 1488cc SOHC non-CVCC SOHC EFI '85 CRX Si (USDM)
EW4 = 1488cc SOHC non-CVCC SOHC EFI '86 Civic/CRX Si (USDM)
F18A3 1.8L SOHC non-VTEC PGM-Fi 93-98 Accord i (115hp)
F18B 1849cc SOHC VTEC, 140ps
F20A 2.0L DOHC non-vtec PGM-Fi 4G 90-93 JDM 2.0Si 150hp 137lb/ft
F20A1- JDM 2.0L DOHC non-VTEC 90-93 Accord Si (155hp)
F20A2
F20A3
F20A5
F20A6
F20A7
F20A8
F20B DOHC vtec ?.?:1CR 200hp ???lb/ft 6G 98-02 JDM SiR-T 85b/??s
F20B DOHC-1 1997cc DOHC VTEC, 180ps F20B DOHC-2 1997cc DOHC VTEC, 200ps
F20B- J JDM 2.0L DOHC VTEC 90-93 Accord Si-R (190ps)
F20B SOHC 1997cc SOHC VTEC, 145ps(LEV)/148ps(4WD)/150ps
F20C1- 2.0L DOHC VTEC '00+ S2000 (250ps/240hp)
F20Z1 2.0L SOHC non-VTEC SOHC PGM-Fi 93-98 Accord Si, es, ies (129hp)
F20Z2 SOHC non-VTEC
F20Z3
F22A1- USDM 2.2L non-VTEC 92-96 Prelude S/90-93 Accord LX/EX (130hp-135hp) F22A2
F22A3
F22A4 SOHC non-vtec 130hp 142lb/ft 4G 90-91 USDM EX/SE 85b/95s
F22A6 SOHC non-vtec 140hp 142lb/ft 4G 92-93 USDM EX/SE 85b/95s
F22A7
F22A8
F22A9
F22B 2156cc SOHC VTEC, 145ps
F22B- USDM 2.2L SOHC VTEC 94-97 Accord EX, 97 2.2CL (145hp F22B DOHC non-vtec 160hp 148lb/ft 4G NA-NA JDM Prelude Si 87b/??s
F22B1 SOHC vtec 145hp 147lb/ft 5G 94-97 USDM EX 85b/95s
F22B2 SOHC non-vtec 130hp 139lb/ft 5G 94-97 USDM DX/LX 85b/95s
F23A 2253cc SOHC VTEC, 158ps(4WD)/160ps F23A1 SOHC vtec 150hp 152lb/ft 6G 98-02 USDM EX/LX 86b/87s
F23A5 SOHC non-vtec 145hp 135lb/ft 6G 98-02 USDM DX 86b/87s
H22A- JDM 2.2L DOHC VTEC 92+ Prelude Type-S, 97+ Prelude SiR S Spec. (220ps) H22A SpecS .2156cc DOHC VTEC, 220ps H22A ver 1 2156cc DOHC VTEC, 190ps
H22A ver 2 2156cc DOHC VTEC, 200ps
H22A1- USDM 2.2L DOHC VTEC 92-96 Prelude VTEC (190hp)
H22A4- 2.2L DOHC VTEC 97-01 Prelude VTEC/SH (97-98: 195hp / 99-01: 200hp)
H22A7 EDM 2.2L DOHC VTEC 98-02 Accord Type-R (212hp)
H23A1- USDM 2.2L DOHC non-VTEC Prelude Si (160hp)
J32A1- 3.2L USDM SOHC VTEC V6 98+ 3.2TL/3.2CL (225hp)
J32A2- 3.2L USDM SOHC VTEC V6 00+ 3.2CL Type-S, 01 3.2TL Type-S (260hp)
K20A3- 2.0L DOHC i-VTEC '02+ RSX/'02+ Civic Si (160hp) ZC VTEC 1590cc SOHC VTEC, 130ps
F20A1 1989 1997 16V 85x88 8.9:1 sohc PGM-CARB 90 /5500 149 /2700
F20A2 1989 1997 16V 85x88 8.9:1 sohc PGM-CARB 110 /5700 159 /3700
F20A3 1989 1997 16V 85x88 8.9:1 sohc PGM-CARB 110 /5700 159 /3700
F20A4 1991 1997 16V 85x88 9.6:1 sohc PGM-Fi ___133 /5300 179 /5000
F20A5 1992 1997 16V 85x88 9.6:1 sohc PGM-Fi ___135
F20A7 1992 1997 16V 85x88 9.0:1 sohc PGM-Fi ___135
B16A- JDM 1.6L DOHC VTEC- 89-91 Civic Si-R I/CRX Si-R, Integra RSi/XSi (160ps)
B16A- JDM 1.6L DOHC VTEC 92-95 Civic Si-R II/ 92-97 CRX DelSol SiR (170ps) B16A2/3- USDM 1.6L DOHC VTEC 93-97 DelSol VTEC/99-00 Civic Si (160hp)this applies to edm b16a2/3 tooB16A ver 1 1595cc DOHC VTEC, 160ps(man) B16A ver 2 1595cc DOHC VTEC, /170ps(man) BUT in europe b16a1 was 150 ps crx ee8/civicee9and b16a2 was 160 hp civic eg6/del sol vtecsame as a3 civic ek4 vti 96/00i assume the ver1 and ver 2 applies to edm ,since u have the specs for jdm 1st and 2nd gen , and the usdm b16a2/3if not i m really sorry.

[hh65acivic]

Is the K20A3 the best engine that will fit in a 97 civic ex. Does it have the most HP/Torque?

[civichatch982]

no, probably the most hp your looking at for an engine that would drop into a 97 ex would be a b18c5 (integra type R). its roughly pushing about 210 hp and 127 ft/lbs. where as the k20a3 can be found in the newer si's. They have the same horsepower and the 99-00 si's but they bumped up the torque to around 137 i believe. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe I'm pretty dead on for those engines. The k20a3 can be found in the rsx and new body civic si's but the engien design and placement is much different then how honda usually places thier engines. It's "backwards", the intake manifold is facing the front bumper rather than the back. They do make kits to install it but its still probably pretty expencive and its still pretty new technology. Where as the Integra type R engine is a B serioes adn parts for the instal are much easier to find.

It also just came to my mind that I forgot the f20c (00+ S2000) it has around 240 horsepower. I'm not too sur eon the torque specs. But the redline is sky high if you get a 00 - 02. It sits a 9 grand. The newer F20's 03 and up, I believe, have lowered the redline to and changed it up a bit to give the engien slightly more torque. I dont know how well this would fit into a 97 civic seeing as how its rear wheel drive. but with a little bit of research I bet you could find out if its possible.

Hopefully that helps you out a bit, feel free to correct me on anything if I'm wrong. (aside from spelling .. I'm just way to lazy to spell check that thing)

[PoorTuner]

I need help please?!?!?!?! I was broke and needed a car so I bought a 2001 Civic DX but now Im finding that there are no mods for the B17A1 motor besides cold air ground wires and exhaust. I need to do a motor swap and I was thinking about just stepping up to the EX engine B17a2 because there are plenty of mods for that. Am I wasting my time for minimal gains? What other engines will fit my car with minimal modifications? Has anyone found or does anyone have an instruction manual of sorts for the type of swap out I am going for? Please help me! Oh yeah by the way, Im still poor so cost effectivness is a big issue!

[crxlvr]

you have a d17a not a b17a, those were in integras. the best move would be to swap upto either the d16y8 sohc vtec or a ZC motor for little modification problems.

[SiGNAL748]

f22c

[cyanide]

i'm doing an engine swap into my 94 honda civic and can't decide which engine I should go with the b16a2 or b18b1 -- the b16a2 has more base hp so why are the b18b1's more expensive?? any help would be great

[civichatch982]

actually I'm not too sure why the b18b1 would be more expencive. I can think a couple things why but I'm not too sure if those are the reason. the b18b1 has more torque and alot of people like the higher dispalcement. There may be slightly more of a market for them because it is possible to upgrade the head on them and make ls/vtec. I personaly like high reving engines that produce alot of top end because I personaly live by the fact that 4 bangers were never ment to put out alot of torque. If more torque was what you wanted then just get some fat ass v8 and reak havoc on all the little ricers.

If it were me I'd get the b16a .. not the USDM b16a2. because you get a little more added hp (168 rather than 160)

[SniperX13]

I hope I am posting in the right area, but I am soon to be purchasing a 1990 Honda Civic DX 4dr for $100 bucks from a co-worker. Its a Standard transmission.

I believe it has the D15 in it. I am new to this,a nd I briefly read up on doing a ZC swap from an older integra. is this the best way and most common way to go? I want the best bang for the bucks. I saw a few 1.6L ZC's(DOHC) on nippon-motors website, and they were asking about 645 for the engine and tranny together. would this be the best route to go??

thanks for all the help guys, I appreciate it. this is going to be the car I learn to tune on.

[97SuperCivic]

I got a 97 Civic DX and I'm really wanting to get into the tuner life. I wanna start off with a good base for future upgrades, any suggestions on what the best engines out there are for my baby. Much thanx.

[gotstreet]

I have a 1991 Honda Accord, ive got a h22 VTec, headers, full exaust, intake I got the computer chipped and a Vtec Controller.
About a month ago I got I tuned and got the VTec controller adjusted and thrown on the dyno came up to 231hp ..
im now having problems with it and i was wandering if anyone could hepl me figure out what was wrong with it..

It lost allot of power, It used to red line at 8.5 now it red lines at 6 .
when im sittin at idle the rpms are up and down between 1.5 and 800 also when i am comming to a stop the rpms stick at 1.7 until i come to a complete stop then up and down... the exsuast sounds different than it was(almost silent)

CAN SOMEONE HELP

[94CIVICDXTuner]

would a k20 drop right into a 94 civic dx? I want a new engine with lots of HP that would drop right in with little or no difficulties.