Biggest QUESTION of ALL!!

[jcsaleen]

He does have a good point as far tracks then weren't intended to handle the performance of todays F1 cars. They should overhaul a track every 4 years or so to meet new standards.

[Dreamspawn]

They wouldn't have to spend money on new road course here. What bout the Long version of Watkins Glen or Infineon race way. The long version of the Glen the ones taht ALMS does is nice long straights,elevation changes, and few tight corners. The long version of Infineon also done by the ALMS is better in my opion. I would love to see Road Alanta thats right the mini Lemans as its known. I think the only reason Indy has the race is b/c the Indy 500 used to be part of the schedule. Spa is the Best course ever in my opion Eau Rouge is the best corner in all of racing. Also what do u all think bout F1 doing the Nordschleif circuit of the Nurbürgring?

[jcsaleen]

Road atlanta has to big drastic elevation changes to f1 cars I think.

[RallyRaider]

Originally Posted by Dreamspawn

Also what do u all think bout F1 doing the Nordschleif circuit of the Nurbürgring?

Nice idea in theory. Somewhat too long in practice! Can you imagine modern F1 suspensions dealing with the Karrosel or the yumps?

[jcsaleen]

Originally Posted by RallyRaider

Nice idea in theory. Somewhat too long in practice! Can you imagine modern F1 suspensions dealing with the Karrosel or the yumps?

exactly lol can you say.... shaved....

[kfoote]

A few issues here. The current scoring system rewards consistency rather than winning. Having a bigger gap in points among the front finishers makes racing for top positions more important, because the champoinships are the real goal of all the teams.

The cars are aero dependant, and always will be unless rediculously drastic rule changes are made. This is a fact of life of the modern F1 team. Long straights with slow corners create long braking zones, which are the best opportunities for passing in aero-dependent cars. That's why I like the design of teh newest tracks, because they are incorporated into the design. The problem with these braking zones at Imola, and also Magny-Cours, is that the track is not straight in the braking zone, making defending your position a lot easier. Spa actually has a 3 real passing zones, more than many of the other tracks.

The issue with the other US tracks is that the facilities are not up to F1 stnadards, and a huge investment would have to be made to make it happen (Road Atlanta, Watkins Glen, Road America and Mid-Ohio come to mind here). There have been rumors of a second US F1 race on the west coast on and off, and the most likely candidate is Laguna Seca. They just built new garages, last year, and the conversion to make the pit lane F1 worthy is a lot easier there than anywhere else. The problems with Sears Point are that the track itself is too rough and there is zero runoff in a lot of high speed places that the FIA would deem unsafe. The biggest gripes I have with Indy is that it's flat (not much can be done there), the track has those two really stupid 180 degree corners next to each other, and there is no moderate to high speed "S" section. Realistically, the track should have been about 3/4 of a mile longer.

[Dreamspawn]

How could i forget Laguna Seca. The corck screw plus F1 cars would be interesting. Mid-ohio is nice but its facilities are no where near places like watkins glen,road alanta, and infioen as it is so that would be out of the question.

[jcsaleen]

Originally Posted by Dreamspawn

Laguna Seca.

LOL The F1 cars would bottom out so bad on the corksrew lol.

[kfoote]

Bottoming in the corkscrew is no bigger of a problem for a current F1 car than it is for a CART car, ALMS LMP car, or a 3-year old F1 car at the Monterrey Historics. The transition isn't sharp enough and the speeds aren't high enough to create a problem there.

Watkins Glen would have to be totally repaved, the guars rails would have to be replaced by concrete barriers, and new pit lane garages would have to be built, all of which are major expenses. The track surface and runoff at Road Atlanta are generally good, but there would still have to be garage construction, and there are spots at Infineon where the barriers would have to be redone. Mid Ohio would need new garages, and track repaving. Infineon or Road Atlanta are the best candidates of that group, but neither would be as easy to convert as Laguna.

All the F1 tracks are regularly updated, and there is always some new feature that most of the F1 tracks add each year, whether it be a new section of track, or better quality port-a-potties, there is virtually always something being improved or refined.

[Lamboholic]

About F1 racing and regulations, The FIA needs to get the cars slower because the cars improve to quickly. The speed gets out of hand and regulations prevent any more money being spend on improving the new product.

However I think the FIA is going to make a big mistake to limmit the motor size to 2,4L V8 engines. First the teams need to devellop a very different engine, and secondly the new engines could be even faster then the old 3L V10 engines. The revs will pass 19000 rpm maybe 20000 rpm. The air which gets in the engines will be the same as long as the air intake size isn't reduced any further. The engines will be lighter and improve the point of gravity. Higher grip, about the same horses and the cars will shrink too as the engines get smaller. A very expensive change and the smaller teams can't test as much as the big teams. I know the FIA won't allow as much testing time on the track as last years, but obviously the big teams test 95% of the testing time in the factory. Only 5% or less on the track.

I forget about a new gearbox and different cooling and about a1000 different points which the teams need to spend their budget on but I believe I made myselve clear

[street_racer_00]

I say make em run 4 cylinder engines, let em fuck with that for a while! lol
As for the track, racing at the nordschliefe(spelling, my god) will never happen again...the track is just too dangerous for modern day formula cars (ask Niki Lauda). And yes, there are many tracks in the US where F1 would be better off....my #1 all time pick for a US F1 race is Road America...screw this indy crap, that track blows...and I agree, the old course and infineon needs to make a comeback, as the carousel was the best part of that track...well I could go on forever about which tracks should be changed(take the chicanes out of Imola for heaven's sake!), but I'll just stop here.

[Dreamspawn]

Lol the FIA did let the teams run 4cylinders at one time turbo charged and those thing were QUICK plus they had a hell of a BOV i'm talking bout making the type RFL sound RFQ. So far this year this guys have been a bit slower later in the race but other than that righ on par with last year. I slightly re-mapped laguna is our best bet. Bring back the old turn one flat out left hander,widen the cork screw, and make the course alittle longer. As for road america would be fun. Which do u like better Road America vs Road Alanta? I hope that Road racing picks up more in the us so we can get some more road courses. Sure we have some well known ones Infieon,Waktins Glen,Sebring,the daytona road course. Mid-ohio is growing but we need more tracks taht amatures can goto and compete on.

[street_racer_00]

I prefer Road America, because compared to Road Atlanta or any american road course for that matter, it has been left un-fucked with throughout the years....I miss the old Road Atlanta with that big hill and dip...plus the chicane that they put in at the end of the back straight really needs to go.