'01 front wheel hub, which design?
jamyers
11-02-2007, 10:06 AM
My '01 LeSabre has a growling front wheel bearing / hub, so I'm looking for a replacement part and the partsguys are all asking me if it's the:
1st Design; Steel Sensor Wire Clip ($150)
or the
2nd Design; Plastic Sensor Wire Clip ($215)
How do I tell which one I need?
Also, if just one is making noise, should I replace both front hubs?
1st Design; Steel Sensor Wire Clip ($150)
or the
2nd Design; Plastic Sensor Wire Clip ($215)
How do I tell which one I need?
Also, if just one is making noise, should I replace both front hubs?
polarzak
11-06-2007, 06:37 AM
If it is what I am thinking the part is, (sensor wire for the ABS?) on my 00 it is plastic. Again, if it is what I am thinking, turn your wheels hard left or right and look at the Sensor Wire.
I had a hub replaced at about 90K. The other original is still perfect at 142K. I would only replace it when it starts to "growl".
I had a hub replaced at about 90K. The other original is still perfect at 142K. I would only replace it when it starts to "growl".
jamyers
11-06-2007, 04:17 PM
If it is what I am thinking the part is, (sensor wire for the ABS?) on my 00 it is plastic. Again, if it is what I am thinking, turn your wheels hard left or right and look at the Sensor Wire.
I had a hub replaced at about 90K. The other original is still perfect at 142K. I would only replace it when it starts to "growl".
Thanks, I ended up pulling my hub and taking it to the parts store for comparison. Here's what's crazy: The ONLY difference we could tell was the clip that holds the ABS sensor to the bracket on the car. One (mine, btw) is a metal clip, the other is a plastic 'push-pin'. And there's a $65 difference? Insane.
It's an easy enough job to replace, only I gotta wonder about GM's engineers - they've got little 13mm bolt heads on a honkin' big bolt that oughta be 17 or 18mm, it's too easy to round off those little bolt-heads. I didn't, but I did have a wrench slip off and take out the end of my finger, grrrr.
:banghead:
That, and getting to the O2 sensor and the back 3 sparkplugs...makes me just about want to drive to Flint and slap somebody. :evillol:
I had a hub replaced at about 90K. The other original is still perfect at 142K. I would only replace it when it starts to "growl".
Thanks, I ended up pulling my hub and taking it to the parts store for comparison. Here's what's crazy: The ONLY difference we could tell was the clip that holds the ABS sensor to the bracket on the car. One (mine, btw) is a metal clip, the other is a plastic 'push-pin'. And there's a $65 difference? Insane.
It's an easy enough job to replace, only I gotta wonder about GM's engineers - they've got little 13mm bolt heads on a honkin' big bolt that oughta be 17 or 18mm, it's too easy to round off those little bolt-heads. I didn't, but I did have a wrench slip off and take out the end of my finger, grrrr.
:banghead:
That, and getting to the O2 sensor and the back 3 sparkplugs...makes me just about want to drive to Flint and slap somebody. :evillol:
polarzak
11-06-2007, 04:54 PM
Glad you got it sorted out. GM does some funny stuff, but I think they all do.
I had a Truimph TR7 for years as a hobby car.... now those British folks did some really crazy things.
I had a Truimph TR7 for years as a hobby car.... now those British folks did some really crazy things.
jamyers
11-06-2007, 06:29 PM
Glad you got it sorted out. GM does some funny stuff, but I think they all do.
I had a Truimph TR7 for years as a hobby car.... now those British folks did some really crazy things.
Uf-Dah! I used to have a '71 MGB as a daily driver, I know *exactly* what you mean.
:screwy: ...electric points-type fuel pumps, only 4 fuses on the whole bloody car, heaters that actually sucked heat out of the car, distributors that'd change the points gap as the centrifugal timing advanced, and my favorite: carburetors that you added oil to.
:iceslolan
I had a Truimph TR7 for years as a hobby car.... now those British folks did some really crazy things.
Uf-Dah! I used to have a '71 MGB as a daily driver, I know *exactly* what you mean.
:screwy: ...electric points-type fuel pumps, only 4 fuses on the whole bloody car, heaters that actually sucked heat out of the car, distributors that'd change the points gap as the centrifugal timing advanced, and my favorite: carburetors that you added oil to.
:iceslolan
polarzak
11-07-2007, 05:51 AM
Uf-Dah! I used to have a '71 MGB as a daily driver, I know *exactly* what you mean.
:screwy: ...electric points-type fuel pumps, only 4 fuses on the whole bloody car, heaters that actually sucked heat out of the car, distributors that'd change the points gap as the centrifugal timing advanced, and my favorite: carburetors that you added oil to.
:iceslolan
And of course, good old Lucas electrics....bet we have stories. I am sure between us, we could have the people here laughing hysterically, shaking their heads in disbelief, and probably feeling real sorry for us, all at the same time. :banghead: :)
Have a good one.
PZ
:screwy: ...electric points-type fuel pumps, only 4 fuses on the whole bloody car, heaters that actually sucked heat out of the car, distributors that'd change the points gap as the centrifugal timing advanced, and my favorite: carburetors that you added oil to.
:iceslolan
And of course, good old Lucas electrics....bet we have stories. I am sure between us, we could have the people here laughing hysterically, shaking their heads in disbelief, and probably feeling real sorry for us, all at the same time. :banghead: :)
Have a good one.
PZ
jamyers
11-07-2007, 08:05 PM
And of course, good old Lucas electrics....bet we have stories. I am sure between us, we could have the people here laughing hysterically, shaking their heads in disbelief, and probably feeling real sorry for us, all at the same time. :banghead: :)
Have a good one.
PZ
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Have a good one.
PZ
Can't resist:
The Lucas Electric motto: "Get home before dark."
Lucas denies having invented darkness. But they still claim "sudden, unexpected darkness."
Lucas--inventor of the first intermittent wiper.
Lucas--inventor of the self-dimming headlamp.
The three-position Lucas switch--DIM, FLICKER and OFF. The other three switch settings--SMOKE, SMOLDER and IGNITE.
The original anti-theft devices--Lucas Electric products.
"I've had a Lucas pacemaker for years and have never experienced any prob...
If Lucas made guns, wars would not start either.
Did you hear about the Lucas powered torpedo? It sank.
It's true that Lucas, in 1947, tried to get Parliament to repeal Ohm's Law. They withdrew their efforts when they met too much resistance.
Did you hear the one about the guy that peeked into a Land Rover and asked the owner "How can you tell one switch from another at night, since they all look the same?" "He replied, it doesn't matter which one you use, nothing happens!"
Back in the '70s Lucas decided to diversify its product line and began manufacturing vacuum cleaners. It was the only product they offered which didn't suck.
Quality Assurance phoned and advised the Engineering guy that they had trouble with his design shorting out. So he made the wires longer.
Why do the English drink warm beer? Lucas makes the refrigerators.
Alexander Graham Bell invented the Telephone.
Thomas Edison invented the Light Bulb.
Joseph Lucas invented the Short Circuit.
If they really wanted AIDS to disappear, they'd assign it a Lucas part number.
Lucas systems actually uses AC current; it just has a random frequency.
polarzak
11-08-2007, 06:50 AM
Thanks for my morning laugh; nearly spilled my coffee. I had heard a few before, but this list is priceless.(and true) I have copied and will email to my brother who had a 69 Spitfire.
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