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tblake
06-28-2007, 11:06 AM
Hello everyone, im hoping some kind person will help me out over here at the honda forum. A little background. I graduated from a tech school for auto mechanics, so i know quite a bit, but this honda appears to be impossible.

Last winter me and a friend of mine took apart a 1994 honda prelude V-tec sir, 2.2 DOHC h22a1 motor. The owner had been driving it and it "started to run funny" so he put gas in it and then it wouldnt start again. Upon my diagnosis, combustion gasses were getting into the radioator so it needed a head gasket. Like i said, we took it apart. In the process we took the timing belt off, it was ver odd, it was missing two teeth, then had one, then missing two, then had one, all the way around. Baffled we were both looking for causes and brushed it off as maybe a cog broke off and embedded itself on a pulley and then kept ripping another cog off every time around.

Well, we got the head off a few days later and then i went for parts. I told the parts stor guy that it was a 1994 prelude vtec with a 2.2 DOHC and he said, ok. Got home and found out I got parts for a 2.2 SOHC knowing that wasnt going to work i went back with everything. Told hime exactly what I had the he gave me another gasket set and assured me that my numbers must have been off and that there werent any 2.2 DOHC vtec motors produced in 1994. So i took this gasket set home and tried it out. it was one for a 2.3 DOCH non v-tec Ok, it lined up better, but a cooling port wasnt covered. So i went back, this time with the engine code. (h22a1) He said that that was imposable and that it was either an f22a1 or an h23a1 and i said, nope, its an h22a1. Getting a little frustrated and quite pissed off, i took the refund and went to another parts place where they had the right gasket set and all the parts for an h22a1 and it was even cheaper. Problem solved, right?

Putting it back together proved quite easy. Untill it was time to line up the camshafts and slap the belt on. I went to compress the tensioner with my screwdriver and added a little oil per instructions. The tensioner seemed weak and although would compress back when i turned the screwdriver, it would not spring forward. and seemed like it was broken. Called around, no one had what i was looing for. All had pulleys and not the actual tensioner unit. HOnda wanted 150.00 for one. So i orderd off then net. 80 including shipping. after about a month of waiting and no tracking number or respond from email or phone calls, i finally emaild a threat to report to the better business Bureau. Two days later checked my online banking account. it was up the amount i spent on the honda part. relieved i found another place on the net selling it for 90. and two days later it was here.

The next day i went and aligned the camshafts and crank and put the belt on and bolted the tensioner down. All went and looked ligned up so i pulled the holeder out of the tensioner. Then tensioner tensioned the belt so i turned it over a couple times by hand to check the timing marks. Every time around they ligned up just perfect, but it didnt seem to want to pick up the slack of the belt bteween the crank and exhaust camshaft. So i was looking closly around. Ok, here is my question..... Lets follow me here, we are going to say the belt starts at the crank, goes straight up over the exhaust camshaft, then over intake camshaft, the loops around "this pulley", and then goes around the tensioner setup and back o crankshaft. What is "this pulley". The owner swears up and down that this car had never been worked on before, but "this pulley" has a different cog pattern than the belt and other pulleys. One tooth of the belt will match up, but the others skip over the top. I was wondering what "this pulley" was and what i have to do to replace it. I was hoping that it was a water pump, but i thought that was ran by the balance shaft belt. After seeing this i then realized why the timing belt had such perfect rhythem. One good cog, two bad, one good, two bad all the way around.

Please someone help me with this. I really need this car to be done. It has been sitting in the garage since january, and really need some smart person on the h22a1 to give me some info on "this pulley". It appears its press fit onto a shaft, but i dont see ay bolts to remove if it were a water pump. How would someone screw this up like that? I wish if people didnt know about cars that they would just leave them alone. Especiall this interference motor. I got off easy there. No kisses of death on the pistons. Thanks guys for all the help. Please post any information you can. Sorry about the long writup. Have a great day.

AudioGuy93DelSol
06-29-2007, 12:43 PM
A picture would be wonderful.

richtazz
06-30-2007, 01:01 PM
does this link help? Scroll down the page until you see the DOHC engine schematic.

http://www.autozone.com/az/cds/en_us/0900823d/80/0c/f7/06/0900823d800cf706/repairInfoPages.htm

tblake
07-01-2007, 10:25 AM
Yes it does. Its the water pump. I have one coming from advance for 40.00. Its the remanufactured unit. It will work just fine seeing as how the car is getting sold as soon as its running. No more Jap Crap for me. Anyone want to buy it?

tblake
07-03-2007, 11:59 PM
I Got it, it was the water pump. Took it off today and im just waiting for a new one. With it in my had, the teeth on the belt would not line up to the pulley. Very strange some idiot aftually put this in without noticing when he put the belt back on. Im sure that its probably for an h23a1 motor.

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