No Panel Vents
Neelskit
09-21-2006, 03:05 PM
I have a 1999 LeSabre Limited with ACC. When panel vents are selected, air only blows out defrost. Also, the RECIRC doesn't appear to work either. The floor vents and heat/ac blend work. Does anyone know where to check vacuum pressure for the HVAC system?
Thanks in advance!:confused:
Thanks in advance!:confused:
imidazol97
09-21-2006, 03:30 PM
I have a 1999 LeSabre Limited with ACC. When panel vents are selected, air only blows out defrost. Also, the RECIRC doesn't appear to work either. The floor vents and heat/ac blend work. Does anyone know where to check vacuum pressure for the HVAC system?
Thanks in advance!:confused:
First question do you have auto dual control digital readout air conditioning?
The lack of vacuum from the engine compartment means the valves sit with defrost enabled for safety and a little air comes out the bottom at the heater openings.
TO test for vacuum inside: run the motor and push different buttons and listen to see if you can hear any of the valves changing. Then turn off the motor and immediately press different buttons to see if you can hear the valves move inside the car. You should have vacuum for about 20 seconds of that.
If you don't seem to get any response inside take off the engine cover (unscrew the tube that the oil filler screws onto-just take hold of the whole thing and twist) then look at the driver side back for a 1/8 inch black slick plastic tube coming out and going up toward the air conditioner tube in front of the passenger. If that tube's connect both places, then crawl under the front wheel in front of the wheel inside the fender there's a tank with one tube tightly slid onto it. Make sure that's there. You should be able to pull that tube off and have vacuum there when you run the motor. That tube comes from in front of the passenger where there's a "y" in the tube from the manifold--one end goes inside the car. The other goes to the storage tank in front of the wheel.
Next to the "y" there's a one-way valve for the vacuum to keep the vacuum from dropping when you open the accelerator.
Goes through these checks. If the problem is not there, then it may be inside with the programmer box that switches the vacuum. But first determine if you have vacuum at all.
Thanks in advance!:confused:
First question do you have auto dual control digital readout air conditioning?
The lack of vacuum from the engine compartment means the valves sit with defrost enabled for safety and a little air comes out the bottom at the heater openings.
TO test for vacuum inside: run the motor and push different buttons and listen to see if you can hear any of the valves changing. Then turn off the motor and immediately press different buttons to see if you can hear the valves move inside the car. You should have vacuum for about 20 seconds of that.
If you don't seem to get any response inside take off the engine cover (unscrew the tube that the oil filler screws onto-just take hold of the whole thing and twist) then look at the driver side back for a 1/8 inch black slick plastic tube coming out and going up toward the air conditioner tube in front of the passenger. If that tube's connect both places, then crawl under the front wheel in front of the wheel inside the fender there's a tank with one tube tightly slid onto it. Make sure that's there. You should be able to pull that tube off and have vacuum there when you run the motor. That tube comes from in front of the passenger where there's a "y" in the tube from the manifold--one end goes inside the car. The other goes to the storage tank in front of the wheel.
Next to the "y" there's a one-way valve for the vacuum to keep the vacuum from dropping when you open the accelerator.
Goes through these checks. If the problem is not there, then it may be inside with the programmer box that switches the vacuum. But first determine if you have vacuum at all.
Neelskit
09-21-2006, 04:09 PM
Yes, I do have dual climate control with the digital read-out.
Thanks- I will give those a try and let you know.
Thanks- I will give those a try and let you know.
Neelskit
09-22-2006, 12:59 PM
I DO have vacuum at the programmer. I disconnected the violet line from the black vacuum line that goes through the firewall under the dash and had good vacuum there.
imidazol97
09-22-2006, 04:07 PM
I DO have vacuum at the programmer. I disconnected the violet line from the black vacuum line that goes through the firewall under the dash and had good vacuum there.
If you're able to find the violet connector and line, try taking off the three or four lines at the box side and test vacuum at the motors under the dash to see if each is getting vacuum at sometime when you press some of the buttons. be sure the car is running when you press the buttons. A fingertip over the line will test for vacuum. Usually the vacuum to the dash vent motor is the one that collapse and blocks vacuum at the multiconnector at the corner of the programmer box. I don't remember the color of the line but it's the one that blocks the flow to the defroster vents. That's what keeps the air from coming out the defrost and makes it come out the dash vents.
If you're able to find the violet connector and line, try taking off the three or four lines at the box side and test vacuum at the motors under the dash to see if each is getting vacuum at sometime when you press some of the buttons. be sure the car is running when you press the buttons. A fingertip over the line will test for vacuum. Usually the vacuum to the dash vent motor is the one that collapse and blocks vacuum at the multiconnector at the corner of the programmer box. I don't remember the color of the line but it's the one that blocks the flow to the defroster vents. That's what keeps the air from coming out the defrost and makes it come out the dash vents.
Neelskit
09-28-2006, 09:32 AM
Problem was in programmer- short lines in programmer were collapsing under vacuum. Found another thread in the Park Avenue Forum that refers to a website that shows in detail how to repair the programmer vacuum lines with 1/8" vacuum line instead of paying up to $400 for a new programmer. Worked wonderfully- Climate Control is working great and it only cost me $3 for 6' of 1/8" vacuum line. If anyone else has this problem, here is the website for repairing your worn out programmer:
http://www.imcool.com/articles/aircondition/fix_vacuum_line.htm
Thanks again for the help!
http://www.imcool.com/articles/aircondition/fix_vacuum_line.htm
Thanks again for the help!
imidazol97
09-28-2006, 10:10 AM
Problem was in programmer- short lines in programmer were collapsing under vacuum. Found another thread in the Park Avenue Forum that refers to a website that shows in detail how to repair the programmer vacuum lines with 1/8" vacuum line instead of paying up to $400 for a new programmer. Worked wonderfully- Climate Control is working great and it only cost me $3 for 6' of 1/8" vacuum line. If anyone else has this problem, here is the website for repairing your worn out programmer:
http://www.imcool.com/articles/aircondition/fix_vacuum_line.htm
Thanks again for the help!
I was the one who posted that link in this group. I got mine tubing free from NAPA store, luckily. The fix works IF that's the problem someone has.
http://www.imcool.com/articles/aircondition/fix_vacuum_line.htm
Thanks again for the help!
I was the one who posted that link in this group. I got mine tubing free from NAPA store, luckily. The fix works IF that's the problem someone has.
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