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Hemi in Prelude?


LS1 Seeker
01-25-2005, 09:12 PM
Sorry this might be dumb but, I know this guy with an early - late 90's prelude with AWS, v-tec. He says it's a 2.3 Liter, but I thought they were 2.2 Liters, but I dunno. He also said that the "H" in H22 engine means Hemispherical like the old dodge hemis! So what the hell is going on is he telling me the truth. He says a mechanic told him all of this.

1) 2.3 Liter?

2) Hemi engine in prelude, hence the H22, and if not what does the H means specifically so I can tell him.

Thanks alot guys...

Editing this... if anyone knows, what makes the old hemis a "hemi"??... and if any handy sources of answers would be appreciated...thanks

del
01-25-2005, 09:45 PM
hemi is short for hemispherical, which is the shape of the cylinder head on hemi engines

and whoever told you that H in H22 or H23 stands for hemi deserves a medal for even getting you to think it was true. haha.

H is just the label honda chose for that engine line. just like the B series. you now, the B16's, B18's, etc. honda also has D, F and K.

there was a 2.3L engine, known as the H23. and it was non-vtec.

LS1 Seeker
01-25-2005, 09:50 PM
I didnt believe any of it...so no hemi in Prelude?

And does anyone else know exactly like what code the H stands for?

unknownluder69
01-26-2005, 10:12 AM
it doesnt stand for anything its just a letter for referencing wat engine ur talking about or dealing with. there are a ton of 2.2L engines out there so this is a way of keeping track of which one it is.

Gohan Ryu
01-26-2005, 10:44 AM
Editing this... if anyone knows, what makes the old hemis a "hemi"??... and if any handy sources of answers would be appreciated...thanks

Honda uses letters to designate engine block type - "B" series engine blocks, "D" series, etc...
As Del said...hemispherical refers to the shape of the cylinder head - read this...

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/hemi2.htm

robTypeR
01-26-2005, 10:52 AM
late model hemies are the real thing this new shit in the jeep is a bunch of bull there is kinda a hemi in them but not really plus hemi isnt even anything special if u real how stuff works ur prob gonna get disapointed dodge used it as a word for there buisness

Gohan Ryu
01-26-2005, 11:08 AM
late model hemies are the real thing this new shit in the jeep is a bunch of bull there is kinda a hemi in them but not really plus hemi isnt even anything special if u real how stuff works ur prob gonna get disapointed dodge used it as a word for there buisness

Grammer, punctuation and proper spelling will make you seem like less of an idiot...

On topic...
Dude stock Honda Preludes put out at the most 220 hp, so how are you gonna talk shit about a Dodge hemi? True the hemi design is old school considering the design efficiency of modern engines (Chevy's TPI is just as good and they were using it in the early 80's), but an engine with a hemi head will put out more horses than the same engine without the hemi head.

AcesHigh
01-26-2005, 12:43 PM
The H is only a letter designation for the particular family of engines; all H series Honda engines have dual overhead cams and are sleeved with FRM material.

The HEMI is 50 year old technology that is still (embarassingly) marketed by Dodge today. It just means the top part of your combustion chamber is shaped like half a sphere (hemispherical). It used to be significant because Ford's flathead used to be a very popular engine. People who say today's HEMI's aren't true HEMI's because they aren't perfectly hemispherical; well, it's really just semantics.

The H22A's head forms a triangular shape, which is significantly more effiecient. The HEMI was good in its day, but it's a technological advance that has long since been surpassed.

LS1 Seeker
01-26-2005, 01:13 PM
So are the heads in the H23 the same in the 2.2?? Triangular??

OonePrelude
01-26-2005, 05:51 PM
Dodge mainly brought back the Hemi name as a selling point. I believe there are other engines that used the same design after Dodge did it. But yes, that technology is pretty much outdatted.

I don't think the head design is the same. I'm sure Honda used different head designs for VTEC and non-VTEC heads.

del
01-26-2005, 09:41 PM
Grammer, punctuation and proper spelling will make you seem like less of an idiot...

On topic...
Dude stock Honda Preludes put out at the most 220 hp, so how are you gonna talk shit about a Dodge hemi? True the hemi design is old school considering the design efficiency of modern engines (Chevy's TPI is just as good and they were using it in the early 80's), but an engine with a hemi head will put out more horses than the same engine without the hemi head.

some valid points, but let's not forget honda engines are extremely well tuned and well engineered machines. most people will say honda makes the best n/a 4 cylinder cars available, and i'm one of them. but i agree with OonePrelude to a certain extent, dodge is heavily using hemi as a marketing tool. i wouldn't call it a gimic by any means, i just think it's being overemphasized.

hemi is to dodge as VTEC is to honda. take that as you may. but neither are god's gift to engines as some people believe.

car_boy_16
01-30-2005, 01:40 PM
Here's the combustion chamber on a PK2 B20a5 head. From a 1989 Prelude 2.0si
http://img169.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img169&image=pk2b20a5head8ss.jpg

icE_x
01-30-2005, 03:05 PM
i saw this i thought someone was gonna swap a hemi engine into a prelude...rofl dodge reliability in a honda prelude...r i g h t

Gohan Ryu
01-30-2005, 08:53 PM
most people will say honda makes the best n/a 4 cylinder cars available, and i'm one of them.

I'm one of them, too. I own 2 Hondas.

I was renting a Dodge Ram 1500 at the time this thread was started - it had a 5.7 Magnum Hemi. Monster torque but my cars are faster.

cndctrdj
02-09-2005, 09:51 AM
ha ha of coarse your car is faster.....its a truck its geared to tow things and haul things, it makes its power where it needs it.
and for the record hemis are incredible. they ruled the strip when muscle cars were king. they ruled nascar when they were allowed to compete, in the super birds. the new "hemi's" are nothing like the old. but they did wonders for dodge buisness just like the old ones did.

h is just an engine code, like lt1, ls1, b, a, c, every company uses them, it will say it on your option code, nothing to worry about.

cndctrdj
02-09-2005, 09:53 AM
on a totally diff note.

any v8 in an rx-7, thats just plain smart cause those rotary engines suck
a 350 in an old z car :) drool
a 5.0 in a focus, again drool

american muscle in a honda i just dont like that idea

ProjectPhantom
02-10-2005, 12:45 PM
dammit sounded interesting when i thought someone put a hemi in a lude... has it ever been done tho? or is it even possible?

cndctrdj
02-10-2005, 05:26 PM
anything is possible... a focus is tiny and they have a convo kit to put in a 5.0 and make it rwd

talk about all motor

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