how can i beat v8 i.e. American cars

i was wondering if the JDM,Spoon,and especially MUGEN parts would help me out what would u guys recommed.

depends on what american V8. a lincoln town car with a V8? sure. a corvette zo6?? probably not unless you're heavily modified. and exactly what jdm, spoon and mugen parts do you have in mind? just coz they're spoon, jdm and mugen doesn't mean anything special, they're just brand names. that's ALL they are.

very vague question that you're asking. try to be more specific. it'd also help to tell us what kind of prelude you have, year and model would help greatly. until then, this thread is pretty pointless. try again. :newbie:

Well first of all i have a 97'prelude automatic and i have heard of mugen and spoon because they r both racing team brand names. and the type of american cars i meant to tell about r the monte carlo SS and mustangs,cobras,grand am etc.

personaly i dont think it matters because all that matters in a race rest upon not whats between your frontbumper and gas pedal but more on what is sitting between the steering wheel and the drivers seat....and well by your comments you dont seem to be the racing type so if you raced against a person who knew what they were doing they could probably kick your ass in a geo metro if your inecperianced

Well first of all i have a 97'prelude automatic and i have heard of mugen and spoon because they r both racing team brand names. and the type of american cars i meant to tell about r the monte carlo SS and mustangs,cobras,grand am etc.


monte carlo ss and grand am don't come with V8's. yo'ure still being pretty vague. what year mustang/cobra? recent ones i would say nay. the older V6's (like mid 90's stangs) possibly and that's the best i'll give to your automatic lude. i would even say the monte carlo ss and grand am gt will give the lude a run for its money if not beat it altogether. any 93 and up camero/firebird V8 in good form will own you.

sorry, but preludes aren't that fast. they're quick but most american V8 cars (even some trucks) will have no trouble with the prelude. but your prelude will leave a lot of these cars behind when it comes to any road without a straightaway longer than 1/4 of a mile. :D

i raced a newer gt recently and i won, but barely... and it was on the freeway. youll need alot of engine work to beat those cars, especially the cobra. im thinking you just threw those names out cause theyre "jdm"

im making decent power and i have nothing jdm. if you just want to beat a v8 get a nitrous setup.

i say hondas are not for street racing in my opinion..im trying to get a nice lude right now myself because i drove my cousins friends 92 and omg it was a fun ride preludes arnt very fast expecialy if its non vtec either way i think alot of the kids with high modded civics and such are more trying to join the fad then actually spend money to get something nice...but thats just me I see Preludes as the daily driver thats looks can draw the eyes in your direction even around some of the most expensive rides around cause a good daily driver can be just as catchy as any leisure ride

i have personally designed a highly specialized set up for your car to beat some of these ponies. The components below are very rare (not!) and with the right stickers, can be said to be jdm.

1) turbo
2) nitrous
3) 250 octane fuel (j/k :D)...a manual tranny!!!

with mugen and spoon in my opinion you might not always get the biggest gains in hp available for the specific part you want but you get durability that they are known for. besided spoon doesnt really make any parts that are for the prelude that increase hp.

any car can beat any car it just depends how much you wanna spend on it... do you wanna do basic mods like header/exhaust/intake or do you wanna spend a few g spots and put a super charger or turbo into it? What about an engine swap?? when it comes down to it the cobra would smoke a stock prelude, they are supercharged v8s with over 300 hp, its pretty obvious who would win.

ok good points you other prelude dudes came up with and i respect all you cause we love the prelude. But im talking about like when you see a cocky sob with the new and old mustangs, new grand ams,and monte carlo SS.Well they r fast ill give them that, but i aint let them win.
Im looking 4 any suggestions from u guys cause im looking to raise my hp up to 400's Feel free what to say thanks.

well if you havent done so already make sure your car has a h22 in it :smile:

go with the supercharger or the turbo, get new cams, pulleys, header, exhaust, intake, bore your intake manifold and throttle body, new fuel rail, fuel pressure regulator, cam geears, clutch, lighter wheels, carbon fiber hood, umm... lots of stuff you can do if you have the $$$$

prelude vtec with turbo will kill mustang cobra
no problem ... go for stage 3 turbo or drag if you have the money. Piston high compression will be good mod ... Vtec top/H23 bottom built piston
can pull 250 Horse easy . not mention Turbo come with it .

anyone hear about ppl throwing k20's in the ludes? shaving about 100 pounds off the front end of your lude would be really nice :icon16:

or what about the k24?

not worth it at all...
best (and cheapest way) to beat a big block domestic is to have a big block domestic.

that defeats the purpose of having a domestic... if you wanna compare cars by price consider this... 2004 cobra about 35-40k$ about 400hp v8 ... honda s2000 about 35k$ and about 240 hp ... now we are talking a race, much better comparison than PRELUDE/COBRA

Preludes ARE fast for a stock 4 banger. and on the street it is alot the driver, JDM parts such as Spoon and Mugen yes are alot of durability but you pay for the name to make it JDM. Personally i could care less if my car was really close that of a Japanese market Prelude. Trusting Performance parts can be found for the prelude for half the price of a Spoon/Mugen. The Name is wut you get yes with the dependability, but just as dependable parts can be found for half the price (if your willing to sacrifice the NAME)... As for beating them build the engine with a turbo, cams, port and polished head/intake manifold, Fuel system and wut not... And where are you planning on racing these cars? Street, track, flat out???


ROB

yeah i get mugen parts for the name and reputation

hey im just a jdm fan and i plan to race on the street

prelude vtec with turbo will kill mustang cobra
no problem ... go for stage 3 turbo or drag if you have the money. Piston high compression will be good mod ... Vtec top/H23 bottom built piston
can pull 250 Horse easy . not mention Turbo come with it .
wow... i sure hope youre kidding about a turbo kit and high comp pistons :banghead: wouldnt be the wisest choice of mods.

I don't think Prelude's were meant to go fast in a straight line. They are NOT drag cars by any means. The are a blast to drive, kinda quick, and handle wonderfully. The steering feel and response is great! But you know this. Point i'm trying to make is, if you want to beat the american muscle with a Honda, you had better get a CRX w/ turbo, or something else lightwieght enough to use that HP you are trying to make.

yeah i get mugen parts for the name and reputation


And I just saw this. Why all the street racing?!! :disappoin

that defeats the purpose of having a domestic... if you wanna compare cars by price consider this... 2004 cobra about 35-40k$ about 400hp v8 ... honda s2000 about 35k$ and about 240 hp ... now we are talking a race, much better comparison than PRELUDE/COBRA

you are dump ass comparison i-4 2.2l to v8 4.6/5.0l with supercharger

first of all, if you are going to call me names like a bitch, learn how to spell, its dumb not dump, second of all, i bet the honda s2000 with a supercharger would beat a v8 with a supercharger... guarenfuckingteed

oh, and by the way KIEPVIESSA or whatever ur name is, isnt the topic of this post v8 cars versus 4 cylinder cars... so shut ur mouth and know your role gabroni

And I just saw this. Why all the street racing?!! :disappoin

what do you mean by this comment? and wtf does mugen have to do with street racing? :confused:

as far as i'm concerned, the number of cylinders has nothing to do with how sporty or fast the car is. who cares if it's a v8 v6 i4, or even v12 w18. so what. it's fairly evident we have seen fast cars from all of these catagories. i don't understand why people even argue about this.

i totally agree, the number of cylinders doesnt mean anything... horsepower per cylinder, weight of the car, mods, etc are what make the car fast, not the number of cylinders... take a look at these mercury grand marquise and ford crown vics, they are v8 and are not fast cars at all, and what about trucks with v8s? are they going to beat a 4 cylinder just because they have 8 cylinders? dont make bullshit posts when you dont know what you are talking about... number of cylinders usually doesnt mean anything

get this thread back on track and soon fellas.

anymore name calling and disrespect, and this thread is closed. all involved, consider this a warning. you know who you are. this isn't OT, i won't put up with this bullshit in here

haha, talk about over reacting

^ off topic :lol:

have it your way.