iridium vs. Bosch Platinum +4 plugs
laidback22
11-19-2003, 01:52 PM
Has anyone put these to the test?
I use th Bosch +4's in my other vehicles (V6 & V8) but I have no exp. with the iridiums.
I have a 90 Si and I planed on only adding bolt-ons (ie.,header,intake,plugs,wires)
If you have exp. the question is Denso or NGK....
Thanks
I use th Bosch +4's in my other vehicles (V6 & V8) but I have no exp. with the iridiums.
I have a 90 Si and I planed on only adding bolt-ons (ie.,header,intake,plugs,wires)
If you have exp. the question is Denso or NGK....
Thanks
Veetec
11-20-2003, 06:15 AM
Doesn´t matter! Both (Denso and NGK plugs) are well for our Hondas!!
car_boy_16
11-21-2003, 12:51 AM
I have bosch plat +4s...I was ignorant when I bought them for 6 dollars (I believe) each!! To tell you the honest to god truth, the design of the plugs are just a marketing scheme. The 4 tips doesn't allow better spark or better ignition, it's just a design. Just get some NGK plugs, they are better.
ludetuner
11-21-2003, 02:48 AM
Ngk plugs are factory fit on many imports
integra111
11-24-2003, 02:33 PM
spark plugs are all the same, wires are what makes the difference
Veetec
11-25-2003, 05:45 AM
spark plugs are all the same, wires are what makes the difference What difference?
Privatebigandrew
11-25-2003, 07:29 PM
actually, not all spark plugs are the same....Put a pair of autolites in your honda and come tell me there isn't a difference. Wires with lower resistance per foot allow more voltage to reach the plug. This produces a more powerful spark for a more complete burn. The Bosch platinum4's are a marketing scheme; in a way. Electricity always takes the path of least resistance, therefore, the spark will only travel to one electrode (the one with least resistance). This does allow for a better spark because it can find the easist path each time, but its not worth the difference in price. Let bosch stick with the german cars, Ngk with the Asains, and autolite with domestics.
Veetec
11-26-2003, 04:47 AM
actually, not all spark plugs are the same....Put a pair of autolites in your honda and come tell me there isn't a difference. Wires with lower resistance per foot allow more voltage to reach the plug. This produces a more powerful spark for a more complete burn. The Bosch platinum4's are a marketing scheme; in a way. Electricity always takes the path of least resistance, therefore, the spark will only travel to one electrode (the one with least resistance). This does allow for a better spark because it can find the easist path each time, but its not worth the difference in price. Let bosch stick with the german cars, Ngk with the Asains, and autolite with domestics.
Apex'i Drag Integra with clockwise rotating H22A and twin turbo setup
with a stock H22A ignition system. http://asia.vtec.net/beystock/hybrid/art2/
(Thanx to drift for the info and link!)
Stock ignition system is already well designed....
Apex'i Drag Integra with clockwise rotating H22A and twin turbo setup
with a stock H22A ignition system. http://asia.vtec.net/beystock/hybrid/art2/
(Thanx to drift for the info and link!)
Stock ignition system is already well designed....
Holyterror
11-28-2003, 03:51 PM
I haven't played with the iridium plugs yet, but I trust NGK in general, so they'd be my first choice. As the others have said, the Bosch +4 plugs are 100% gimmick. There may be one theoretical advantage: if the best electrode (the path of least resistance) wears down or becomes sooty, then the current will just find its way over to another plug. In practice, the plug will probably be near the end of its useful life before this happens anyway, and most of the usual things that foul plugs should foul all four electrodes at the same time. In any case, they're not worth the ridiculous price.
Anybody feel free to correct me if I said something that just doesn't make sense.
Anybody feel free to correct me if I said something that just doesn't make sense.
portaman03
12-03-2003, 03:58 AM
Privatebigandrew is right. unless you have a high power ignition system or some nology hotwires, the spark rarely, and i mean RARELY meaning almost never, reaches more than one prong on the tip of the plug. if you are lucky it MIGHT spark on two of them, but then again, if its only sparking on two, whats the point of four? gimmick. i have denso iridiums. great plug.
laidback22
12-03-2003, 08:10 AM
Thanks for the replies
I am going to do a tune up on this car as I just bought it and have no idea how old the current components are. I think I'll go with the irridium plugs, new wires, air filter for now until i figure which intake to put on.
I am going to do a tune up on this car as I just bought it and have no idea how old the current components are. I think I'll go with the irridium plugs, new wires, air filter for now until i figure which intake to put on.
portaman03
12-03-2003, 10:12 AM
good idea
pikkagtr
01-01-2004, 07:51 AM
MGK IX stick with these for hondas
i dunno about denso, asking a litlle too much, seems to be the same plug to me IMO
i dunno about denso, asking a litlle too much, seems to be the same plug to me IMO
BullShifter
01-02-2004, 10:14 PM
B16AB16BB18CK20A
01-03-2004, 01:25 AM
http://www.importreview.com/reviews/BoschVSNGK.html
http://www.importreview.com/reviews/densoVSbosch.html
Dyno tests
these dynos are misleading...they compare a bosch platinum plug with a copper ngk plug as opposed to a plat vs plat comparison. the platinum plug should show better dynos, and it does however slightly. even thought the test was to prove that the bosch plat plug was a better power producing plug, it also shows that the ngk copper is just about as good! :sly:
http://www.importreview.com/reviews/densoVSbosch.html
Dyno tests
these dynos are misleading...they compare a bosch platinum plug with a copper ngk plug as opposed to a plat vs plat comparison. the platinum plug should show better dynos, and it does however slightly. even thought the test was to prove that the bosch plat plug was a better power producing plug, it also shows that the ngk copper is just about as good! :sly:
BullShifter
01-03-2004, 01:29 AM
Those dyno links are to show that spark plugs don't really make a difference. Spend your $$$$ on other stuff.
Holyterror
01-04-2004, 01:06 AM
Note that the plugs used on that car were not the +4 plugs that the thread was originally about. The plugs used on the dynos were #4227, single electrodes. The +4s start around #4417. Whereas you can get the single electrode plugs for under $2 U.S., the +4s will run you between $4.50 and $5 a piece. I don't like paying extra for b.s.
It would be interesting to see a dyno comparison of Bosch single electrodes, +2, and +4. I would really laugh hard if the gimmick plugs made measurably less power than the standard ones.
It would be interesting to see a dyno comparison of Bosch single electrodes, +2, and +4. I would really laugh hard if the gimmick plugs made measurably less power than the standard ones.
JoeStangV604
11-16-2004, 11:25 PM
Well i'd imagine the idea behind +4 plugs is that these plugs are designed for various cars and the threads may all be ofsetted differntly. For example if you drew a mark on a pop bottle top and screwed it on it would match, but if you screw that onto a slightly differnt bottle the bottle top wouldnt match the same. The germans are very picky with engineering and i am sure they see that the plugs might not be in the "perfect" position for an optimal spark from car to car, so they put 4 positiosn so the smart lil electrons will find the right one to go down regardless of the threading being off slightly.
SiGNAL748
11-17-2004, 12:02 AM
:confused:
drm95
05-28-2005, 03:24 AM
ok, all this talk about plugs - I have a 95 integra, what would be a good brand of spark plug wires to get?
honda_racing101
05-28-2005, 05:48 PM
What the hell. Ok, one DONT post in dead threads and two why don't you post in the INTEGRA forums if you have a question about your teg? Don't noobs read any of the guidlines?
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