Have you guys seen this? 2007 RSX-RS

[2005C6]

http://www.automotivearena.com/forum...ura-rsxrs.html

Ran across this car. Looks like it will be a monster

[paulkramer]

Tried - even after registering at that site I can't view that page.....

[crazy_canuck]

Can't see it either, but I haven't yet seen any credible info on the 07 RSX, some people say it'llbe discontinued, others say it'll be a complete revamp.

[crazy_canuck]

Apparently the member who posted the original thread was banned earlier and admitted it was a fraud which is why we can't view the threads (they got deleted or moved out).

The article said that the 5Axis 2006 RSX A-Spec was the new RSX and for 43K USD you could get a 315 hp AWD RSX. Yeah, right.

[mmont0]

My bet is that it will be discontinued. That new Civic Si seems to be a replacement. I think the RSX will have a hard time selling seeing that the Civic will probably handle better and possibly be just as fast or maybe even a tad faster. If they do keep it around they'll have to put in a quicker engine in the RSX if they plan on people buying it.

[paulkramer]

Originally Posted by mmont0

My bet is that it will be discontinued. That new Civic Si seems to be a replacement. I think the RSX will have a hard time selling seeing that the Civic will probably handle better and possibly be just as fast or maybe even a tad faster. If they do keep it around they'll have to put in a quicker engine in the RSX if they plan on people buying it.

I think you may be right. The RSX has probably given Acura somewhat of a bad name what with the 2nd gear grind issues. And I notice that there are no more two door models in the Acura lineup.

Who knows - maybe I'm wrong and they want to maintain a sporty, relatively inexpensive entry-level model.

You're definitely right though about competing with their own Civic. Unless Honda is becoming like GM in their success, or they know something about marketing that we don't!

[mason_RsX]

Honestly, I really haven't kept up to date with RSX trends and whether it will be discontinued or not. Its will on my car purchase 07 list, but I haven't heard anything either way

[bdk5010]

I don't know if the introduction of the Civic Si is going to hurt the RSX as much as you think. Look at Nissan: they've got the 350Z and Infiniti has the G35 coupe. These are almost exactly the same cars, and yet they sell both to different kinds of buyers. I'm betting Honda is thinking along these lines. Personally, I would never really consider driving a Civic, but an Acura appeals to me. Subaru and Saab are persuing a similar marketing strategy as well with the WRX and 9-2x. Although essentially the same cars, the luxury levels and brand names attract different classes of buyers.

[paulkramer]

Originally Posted by bdk5010

I don't know if the introduction of the Civic Si is going to hurt the RSX as much as you think. Look at Nissan: they've got the 350Z and Infiniti has the G35 coupe. These are almost exactly the same cars, and yet they sell both to different kinds of buyers. I'm betting Honda is thinking along these lines. Personally, I would never really consider driving a Civic, but an Acura appeals to me. Subaru and Saab are persuing a similar marketing strategy as well with the WRX and 9-2x. Although essentially the same cars, the luxury levels and brand names attract different classes of buyers.

Right you are......

I was considering a Civic coupe when I bought my RSX, but I just couldn't stomach the styling and ponied up a few extra semolians for the Acura. Call me old, but I preferred the base model because it would be less expensive to operate than Type-S. So the performance is about the same as Civic, but the styling was what sold me.

[RSX-S777]

Honda is just looking less and less appealing to me unless you go the straight luxury route (TL, RL). I really don't like the new Civic design at all. If the RSX is discontinued, that'll take me right out of the Honda sport compact arena. S2000 is nice, but I have a huge hard-on building for the new Lexus IS and the Nissan lineup is tempting. Hate to be a traitor, but unless Honda WOWS me before my payments are up, I'm thinking of defecting.

[mmont0]

Originally Posted by bdk5010

I don't know if the introduction of the Civic Si is going to hurt the RSX as much as you think. Look at Nissan: they've got the 350Z and Infiniti has the G35 coupe. These are almost exactly the same cars, and yet they sell both to different kinds of buyers. I'm betting Honda is thinking along these lines. Personally, I would never really consider driving a Civic, but an Acura appeals to me. Subaru and Saab are persuing a similar marketing strategy as well with the WRX and 9-2x. Although essentially the same cars, the luxury levels and brand names attract different classes of buyers.

True, but if they take the route that GM has, they'll be swamped with cars that compete with each other and won't be able to make profits off their inter-competing cars. Right now those 350's and G35's are mainly competing against other makes - Lexus, Acura. As far as driving a Honda vs. Acura, I would take the car that has the best engine/handling/etc. for the price. After all, Acura is Honda. When it comes to Saab I can't see myself paying almost $10k for a "rebadged" WRX just because it's more "luxurious". Car makers have been doing this for quite a while.

Let's wait and see what happens when China enters the automobile market. Things are going to change drastically in the auto industry!

[bdk5010]

Originally Posted by mmont0

As far as driving a Honda vs. Acura, I would take the car that has the best engine/handling/etc. for the price.

Although this may be true for you, we have to take into account that the majority of the country are not driving entusiasts. Many people, would buy an Acura over a Honda for several reasons. For one, the styling is much more conservate and appealing (I think at least). The interiors are more comfortable and have more amentities and upscale options. Although structurally an Acura and a Honda may be identical, the large portion of American car buyers go more for the appeal factor then the driving performance, even if it does cost them more money.

As for GM competing with themselves, they must be doing something right considering they're one of the largest automotive companies in the world. I'm sure Honda has done the market research and economic analysis and has deemed using the same platforms for multiple products more profitable than developing separate components for each model they roll off the line, even if they ultimately do compete with themselves.

[mason_RsX]

Originally Posted by bdk5010

As for GM competing with themselves, they must be doing something right considering they're one of the largest automotive companies in the world. I'm sure Honda has done the market research and economic analysis and has deemed using the same platforms for multiple products more profitable than developing separate components for each model they roll off the line, even if they ultimately do compete with themselves.

Oh yeah GM is just soaring

Falling SUV sales drag Ford, GM lower

GM dealt another setback with SEC subpoen

GM hasn't been doing anything right for a long time. They are just not getting their act together as they get beat up by foreign and domestic competitors

GM themselvs admit their multiple brands cannibalize each other sales, which is why they are cutting back

As for Honda, I've never been very interested in anything they've had to offer, and though the Civic Si I like, its definately not my favourite. In Acrua I love the RSX and the Tl,but if the RSX stops production, theres really no point in looking at Acura for a 20 year old

[paulkramer]

Originally Posted by RSX-S777

Honda is just looking less and less appealing to me unless you go the straight luxury route (TL, RL). I really don't like the new Civic design at all. If the RSX is discontinued, that'll take me right out of the Honda sport compact arena. S2000 is nice, but I have a huge hard-on building for the new Lexus IS and the Nissan lineup is tempting. Hate to be a traitor, but unless Honda WOWS me before my payments are up, I'm thinking of defecting.

Wow, reading this is scary. I'm thinking of giving up, what with a transmission rebuild on an Acura with 50K miles.........I went Japanese because I thought I was buying the highest quality, most reliable car available (Honda or Toyota). Even my Olsmobile waited until it had 90K miles before its tranny requested a rebuild!

Definitely not interested in Nissan what with their reliability issues. Now they are scrambling to recover market share and are rolling out new models at a blistering pace - makes me wonder if they can do that much simultaneously and well.

Lexus too sickly sweet for my blood, and no two-door IS. Too expensive for me; I should have gone into horticulture I guess after all!

[bdk5010]

Originally Posted by mason_RsX

Oh yeah GM is just soaring

...theres really no point in looking at Acura for a 20 year old

For one, I'd like you to go back and reread my post. Nowhere was it ever stated that GM was the most successful car company. I am completely aware of their problems. I simply stated that GM was one of the largest companies in the industy and despite all their trouble, there must be something they are doing right. And, if they realize that their intracompetition was hurting them, why are they continuing to release

As for you second point about 20 year olds looking at Acuras, what about the TSX? Acura's entry level 4 door is appealing to many college graduates. Honda reliability plus handling revered by "Car and Driver" with conservative good looks attracts buyers from the 20-35 year old range.