Cadillac Sixteen

[WakkaWu]

I have never heard of a 1200HP GT-R either.Oh wait!I have heard modded GT-R that has had 1200HP added to it.

[Scott 02]

modded

There is the key word to it all....Thanks WakkaWu

[Jimster]

Yes- but a modded 1200bhp GTR could bedone for the price of a Sixteen and then some and still have technological advantages over the Sixteen. and it'd still have 10 less cylinders-yet out perform it on the strip AND the track. In fact I can't see where the Cadillac would have any advantage- except for the unimportant area of luxury features.

[WakkaWu]

Yes- but a modded 1200bhp GTR could bedone for the price of a Sixteen and then some and still have technological advantages over the Sixteen. and it'd still have 10 less cylinders-yet out perform it on the strip AND the track. In fact I can't see where the Cadillac would have any advantage- except for the unimportant area of luxury features.

Dude,the Sixteen is not meant to be a street rod.And plus,you or I or anybody don't know how fats it is or what it is capable of.Which in saying that,the Sixteen could very well smoke a 1200 HP GT-R.

[Deakins]

Do you have some form of brain dysfunction? Seriously?

[Hudson]

Jimster:

I'm with WakkaWu. You don't really understand that all cars aren't meant to be compared with all other cars. Ever heard the phrase "comparing apples and oranges?"

Those luxury features may be unimportant to YOU, but someone who's buying a $300,000 car expects them. Quarter mile times are the only way to measure a car...and you seem to overlook this.

Luxury cars are known for the quietness of their engine (something a modified Skyline GT-R can't claim), smoothness of their power delivery (see last comment), smooth ride over at-the-limit handling (where the Skyline GT-R gives up ride for handling), and prestiege (the Skyline GT-R is based on the much more mainstream Skyline).

There's also the exclusivity of having a sixteen cylinder engine, reliable 1,000hp (don't bet on the Skyline GT-R begin able to keep that engine together AND be driven daily), and a factory warranty. Not that you'd even think about it, but the Sixteen would have better emissions and gas mileage than your theoretical modified GT-R.

Ah, but your one-dimensional thinking wouldn't look past acceleration.

[WakkaWu]

Do you have some form of brain dysfunction? Seriously?

Who are you talking about?

[Scott 02]

I'm with WakkaWu. You don't really understand that all cars aren't meant to be compared with all other cars. Ever heard the phrase "comparing apples and oranges?"

Absolutly Right. Nobody is 100% sure of what the Cadillac is capable of at this time. I think we will be suprised. All we know is all the BS that others have said about this car and their opinions.

Do you have some form of brain dysfunction? Seriously?

I believe that Deakins is talking to you, WakkaWu. He must think that you are stupid about the Sixteen.....We haven't yet heard what he has to say that really applys to this who subject. Hmmm could it be he has a brain dysfunction then? Or maybe he don't know jack squat about this all??? Oh well alot of us do anyway. :bandit: You got to keep one thing in mind WakkaWu. If you have to compair anything to the GT-R in this....The GT-R seems to always win......:cwn27:

and still have technological advantages over the Sixteen

What is so technical about a 1200HP GT-R? Were are the advantages beating Cadillac? I think Cadillac has the technical situations down and done right. Opinions???

[Jimster]

Originally posted by Hudson
Jimster:

I'm with WakkaWu. You don't really understand that all cars aren't meant to be compared with all other cars. Ever heard the phrase "comparing apples and oranges?"

Those luxury features may be unimportant to YOU, but someone who's buying a $300,000 car expects them. Quarter mile times are the only way to measure a car...and you seem to overlook this.

Luxury cars are known for the quietness of their engine (something a modified Skyline GT-R can't claim), smoothness of their power delivery (see last comment), smooth ride over at-the-limit handling (where the Skyline GT-R gives up ride for handling), and prestiege (the Skyline GT-R is based on the much more mainstream Skyline).

There's also the exclusivity of having a sixteen cylinder engine, reliable 1,000hp (don't bet on the Skyline GT-R begin able to keep that engine together AND be driven daily), and a factory warranty. Not that you'd even think about it, but the Sixteen would have better emissions and gas mileage than your theoretical modified GT-R.

Ah, but your one-dimensional thinking wouldn't look past acceleration.

OK Hudson- As much as I respect your knowlege and well presented facts- you have misinterpereted what I have said- I am well known for rubbishing 1/4 mile times- I am an ex-track racer and about to build a Alfa Romeo 156 track car- The Skyline GTR with 100bhp obviously would not work on the stock internals/transmission- but if you splash out and stregthen them- the car will prove semi-reliable- of course parts will break occasionally- but you can expect that with the sort of driving you will give it. Of course it can't be driven daily- but with the money left over from the 16's price tag- You could just get yourself a Peugeot 6O7 or VW Passat V6 to run around in- just as good.

And yes of course the gas mileage is worse- especially considering that you would have to run the Skyline on 100 Octane- But don't call a 1000bhp Skyline theoretical- it has been done many times in Japan- and the Croydon skyline and Heat Treatments Skyline from New Zealand are a cut under 1000bhp (They are R32's- but they are basically the same thing).

As for the Skyline getting smoked by a sixteen- DON'T MAKE ME FUCKING WELL LAUGH!!!!!!! The Skylines I have mentioned run a range 7-9 second 1/4 miles- The Sixteen is nowhere near capable of that. That is a fact- it is too lard-assed and has a ridiculous 4-speed auto. even though the 1/4 mile is unimportant- it's just the bare facts.

And yes Scott- Deakins runs circles around you in basic intellegence- if you want to hear what he has said on this subject pay a visit to the Veryon vs. Sixteen thread- VERY good argument on his part.



Dimwits

[WakkaWu]

As for the Skyline getting smoked by a sixteen- DON'T MAKE ME FUCKING WELL LAUGH!!!!!!! The Skylines I have mentioned run a range 7-9 second 1/4 miles- The Sixteen is nowhere near capable of that. That is a fact- it is too lard-assed and has a ridiculous 4-speed auto. even though the 1/4 mile is unimportant- it's just the bare facts.

Jim,again,YOU DONT KNOW WHAT THE SIXTEEN IS CAPABLE OF!How do you know it doesnt do the 1/4 in 2 seconds?You don't.Neither do I or anyone.Why you ask?Could it be that it hasnt been tested yet?You dont know anything about the car except that it has 1000 HP.

All Deakins can do is say we're retarded.And hasnt yet proved jack squat about his knowlesge of the Sixteen.He's not a fan of the car so he don't like it or bother to reasearch it.You know why?Because his damn VW's are the greatest!
And Hudson is still very correct over everything you said.

[Scott 02]

I am well known for rubbishing 1/4 mile times- I am an ex-track racer and about to build a Alfa Romeo 156 track car- The Skyline GTR with 100bhp obviously would not work on the stock internals/transmission- but if you splash out and stregthen them- the car will prove semi-reliable- of course parts will break occasionally- but you can expect that with the sort of driving you will give it.

Im not impressed.....

Jim,again,YOU DONT KNOW WHAT THE SIXTEEN IS CAPABLE OF!How do you know it doesnt do the 1/4 in 2 seconds?You don't.Neither do I or anyone.Why you ask?Could it be that it hasnt been tested yet?You dont know anything about the car except that it has 1000 HP.

Well said. I believe this car sure is capbable of proving people wrong. Let the 1/4mile times and top speed come out. It may have a 4speed, but do you know what the gear ratio's are in those gears jimster? It might be more top end or bottom end.

All Deakins can do is say we're retarded.And hasnt yet proved jack squat about his knowlesge of the Sixteen.He's not a fan of the car so he don't like it or bother to reasearch it.You know why?Because his damn VW's are the greatest!

Thats how I see it....

[Deakins]

Originally posted by Scott 02
I believe that Deakins is talking to you, WakkaWu. He must think that you are stupid about the Sixteen.....We haven't yet heard what he has to say that really applys to this who subject. Hmmm could it be he has a brain dysfunction then? Or maybe he don't know jack squat about this all??? Oh well alot of us do anyway.

Remember last time you made a stupid comparison involving the Sixteen.
I expressed my opinions on this car there.

Originally posted by WakkaWu
Jim,again,YOU DONT KNOW WHAT THE SIXTEEN IS CAPABLE OF!How do you know it doesnt do the 1/4 in 2 seconds?You don't.Neither do I or anyone.Why you ask?Could it be that it hasnt been tested yet?You dont know anything about the car except that it has 1000 HP.

All you know about this car is that it has a 1000hp V16. That proves my theory. You are slightly brain damaged.

Originally posted by WakkaWu
All Deakins can do is say we're retarded.And hasnt yet proved jack squat about his knowlesge of the Sixteen.He's not a fan of the car so he don't like it or bother to reasearch it.You know why?Because his damn VW's are the greatest!

I'm not a fan of this car, I don't like it. But do you seem to have forgotten our last discussion we had concerning this car. If you want my opinion on this car, read that tread.

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t82530.html

[Scott 02]

So why do you hate this car with a passion?

[WakkaWu]

All you know about this car is that it has a 1000hp V16. That proves my theory. You are slightly brain damaged.

Umm,did you even bother to read my last post?I said...

Jim,again,YOU DONT KNOW WHAT THE SIXTEEN IS CAPABLE OF!How do you know it doesnt do the 1/4 in 2 seconds?You don't.Neither do I or anyone.

THATS ALL ANYBODY KNOWS ABOUT IT.THATS REALLY ALL THE INFORMATION THATS BEEN PRODUCED.YOU ARE SLIGHTLY BRAIN DAMAGED.NOT ME.

I'm not a fan of this car, I don't like it. But do you seem to have forgotten our last discussion we had concerning this car. If you want my opinion on this car, read that tread.

This car is 10 times better than any VW out there so I don't see how you can't like it.And your opinion doesnt mean jack anyways because theres not enough information available about this car anyway.And even if there was,its still just your opinion.

[Deakins]

And you are accusing me of not doing any reasearch? Cadillac have released a lot of information about the Sixteen. Dimensions, suspension design, chassis structure, powertrain information etc.