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Old 12-12-2001, 09:38 PM   #46
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No no no, Iīm sure the Focus is #1 in sales worldwide, I just read it in the MotorTrend magazine, Iīll scan the page for you as soon I find this damn magazine I donīt know where I put it.
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Old 12-20-2001, 01:49 PM   #47
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You know, a buddy of mine has a 2000 Focus ZX3 hatch. Forget how many miles he has on it, but not that many. Under 40k still.

Spends it's life in the dealership. He typically puts on 20k -per year-. Every time he turns around, SES light is on or the car isn't running right. Three different dealerships have been through the thing, and he already got two or three PCMs, and a whole new -cylinder head- when it started making valvetrain noise. That's not including seven cam position sensors and that thing for the exhaust cam variable timing.

Personally, I'd never touch one of those. I'm done buying Fords anyways.. that pissed off that they killed the Escort, still unhappy about the 96-97 redesign and subsequent elimination of anything resembling performance. :P

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Old 12-20-2001, 09:34 PM   #48
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Yeah I donīt like the 1997 restyling of the Escort either. They should have keep the Escort and brought the Focus as a non replacement for it.
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Old 12-20-2001, 11:16 PM   #49
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Spends it's life in the dealership. He typically puts on 20k -per year-. Every time he turns around, SES light is on or the car isn't running right. Three different dealerships have been through the thing, and he already got two or three PCMs, and a whole new -cylinder head- when it started making valvetrain noise. That's not including seven cam position sensors and that thing for the exhaust cam variable timing.

Sounds to me like the dealership is the problem. I have seen virtually no engine/emission problems from this car. I hate the car, but mechanically, it seems very sound.
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Old 12-21-2001, 12:52 AM   #50
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I still think the focus is the best under 18K car that money car buy and it's even better then most $20K cars out there


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Old 12-21-2001, 07:14 AM   #51
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Focalblur:

I would have to thoroughly disagree with you. I have owned other vehicles that were well under 20g's new that I was far more satisfied with, that were in most aspects superior to the Focus.
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Old 12-21-2001, 12:26 PM   #52
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i am talking about car currently on the market
the only other car i can think of the would compare is the mazda protege
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Old 12-21-2001, 01:40 PM   #53
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Yes, I am talking about cars currently on the market too.
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Old 12-21-2001, 01:40 PM   #54
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what would you compare it to then?
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Old 12-21-2001, 01:47 PM   #55
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Hyundai
Saturn
Malibu
Grand Am
Just to name a few.
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Old 12-21-2001, 01:53 PM   #56
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Hyundai
Saturn
Malibu
Grand Am
Just to name a few.
personally the only car on that list that I think can compete is Hyundai

I do no like anything GM produces with the exception of SAAB, every experience with a GM car I have had has been negative
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Old 12-21-2001, 02:08 PM   #57
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Wow! I see the e-mail pop up with your reply.. I keep opening it waiting for a flame... and there is none... Thank You!!

Hyundai has come a long way, and I must congratulate them.

As far as GM goes, I am impressed with both the cars I listed. Longevity still hasn't been proven for the new models, but I don't see a lot of owners complaining about them, so they can't be too bad

Although Saturn is under the GM corporate umbrella, I don't consider them as a part ... probably because the vast difference in dealer experiences... anyway, when I purchase another new car it will be either an S series or an L Series. Saturn won my loyalty with all aspects of ownership. I don't know why I strayed and tried the Focus, probably because I have been a long time Ford owner, and loyal Ford fan. Love my F-150.. hated that Focus.
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I still think the focus is the best under 18K car that money car buy and it's even better then most $20K cars out there


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No wonder is #1 in sales worldwide.
Other big rivals are the Nissan Sentra, VW Jetta, Daewoo Nubira, Mitsubishi new Lancer, in USA and worldwide too (thereīs some more too)
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Old 01-10-2002, 10:35 PM   #59
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This is the new 2002 Focus

An even more refined Ford Focus for 2002/3
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too bad the USA wont ever see those changes

ours stays the same untill the total redesign in 2004.5
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