Grand Am Off Topic Thread

[Vipey1337]

Originally Posted by xeroinfinity

Wait till it's finished

On another trippy note my GT was crapping out this weekend. Would hold onto 1st and not shifting unless you red line it. Then from 2-3 it would slippp, then slamm peeling out
Changed the trans filter & fluid seems to have helped but its still acting strange.... Also throwing a shit load of codes.
Cleared them hoping they dont come back

I smell tranny rebuild

I accidentally put my car in reverse while going 15mph the other day... that probably wasn't good. Keep checking to make sure it doesn't explode...

Held up fine when I killed a Protege today though

[grandma]

well if you want to run low 13's or better you're already going to have to look into building up the tranny. Those things don't like taking any abuse or power whatsoever, or go w/ a build GTP tranny.

[Vipey1337]

Originally Posted by grandma

well if you want to run low 13's or better you're already going to have to look into building up the tranny. Those things don't like taking any abuse or power whatsoever, or go w/ a build GTP tranny.

You can actually use GTP trannies for grand ams? How the hell does it fit? And how's the gear ratio? Isn't it the same as Grand Am GT gear ratio?

And you gotta build the GTP tranny up from there?

And where do I get this?

[Gir-_-]

Originally Posted by Vipey1337

You can actually use GTP trannies for grand ams? How the hell does it fit? And how's the gear ratio? Isn't it the same as Grand Am GT gear ratio?

And you gotta build the GTP tranny up from there?

And where do I get this?

MMS is looking into swapping out GTP trans parts for the GA GT Trans I believe... nothing as of yet

stock GTP parts can easily hold GA power lol

in which case quad4 has it's advantages, if you have manual I think exedy or act makes a clutch for the trans... thumbs up

[grfnkl]

Originally Posted by Vipey1337

I smell tranny rebuild

I accidentally put my car in reverse while going 15mph the other day... that probably wasn't good. Keep checking to make sure it doesn't explode...

Held up fine when I killed a Protege today though

Dont worry vipey 15 mph is nothing. I accidentally put it in reverse at 55 mph. And Amazingly didn't blow the trans or engine. If i did though the mustang who cut me off which caused that mess would have gotten his cause he did it right in front of 2 cops!!

Why suddenly now they are thinkiing of making more parts available for the g/a tranny, this would have been very helpful for me a couple years ago when i ahd the g/a and was having problems!

[Vipey1337]

Yeah totally seems worth it... GTP tranny ftw! Just need a price range lol...

[xeroinfinity]

Originally Posted by grandma

well if you want to run low 13's or better you're already going to have to look into building up the tranny. Those things don't like taking any abuse or power whatsoever, or go w/ a build GTP tranny.

appearently you are suffering from short term memory loss,
because my SE is running 13's with the stock 4T45E
And its holding up great
My GT is just a stock side car to goof off in.

The GP and GTP use the same transmission that the older GA's,
98 and older V6 trans ,
the 4T60 and 4T65 and the new 4T65HD(which I have already).
These 4T40-4T45Es are just smaller and weaker.
Prone to overheat because most 3.4's run to hot all the time.

So fitting a 4T65HD into a GA is going to require some modification to bolt up the motor,
new axle shafts and Hubs.
Shouldn't be to bad once I take the measurements and get all the parts I need.
I already have some new 3.1 engine mounts & engine to trans mounts.
Plus anything else I might need, I can fab myself

The 4t65HD came out of a GXP that had paddle shifter
HD stands for heavy duty for those who dont know accronyms

[grfnkl]

Originally Posted by xeroinfinity

The 4t65HD came out of a GXP that had paddle shifter
HD stands for heavy duty for those who dont know accronyms

That's sweet!!! Put a paddle shifter into a g/a! That would be awesome.

I was just playing around on ebay trying to get some ideas of aftermarkets for the g6, and i actually found a 6speed manny tranny on there for $400! Not bad price, didn't say if it included everything or not, just said brand new 0 miles. I know i won't be changing tranny's unless i for some reason blow this one!

[xeroinfinity]

The paddle shifter would be nice
I dont have those parts, yet, but I have been looking.
I'd probley need to replace the steering wheel but it would be worth it.

I'd love a 6 spd !

heres a more finished version of that eating me up prt 4.
Its getting there, check out the details.

[Vipey1337]

Originally Posted by xeroinfinity

The paddle shifter would be nice
I dont have those parts, yet, but I have been looking.
I'd probley need to replace the steering wheel but it would be worth it.

I'd love a 6 spd !

heres a more finished version of that eating me up prt 4.
Its getting there, check out the details.

WOoOoooOOOOt

[grandma]

Originally Posted by xeroinfinity

appearently you are suffering from short term memory loss,
because my SE is running 13's with the stock 4T45E

slips or vid?

you will end up killing your tranny btw.

[xeroinfinity]

I doubt I'd kill it jsut yet. It runs at about 160deg all the time with the trans cooler plus running full sythetic helps.

Doesnt realy matter anyhoo, since I have the Raybestos clutch packs for the 4t45e and I also have the 4t65hd so I can go either route. The Raybestos pac also came with new springs and plungers for the VB.
And its not even available yet to market.
My dad worked for Raybestos for over 40 years
so I get to try things out a littel early sometimes.
Just supply the data/parts they need, which is good for me and my small business.

[grandma]

Originally Posted by xeroinfinity

I doubt I'd kill it jsut yet. It runs at about 160deg all the time with the trans cooler plus running full sythetic helps.

Doesnt realy matter anyhoo, since I have the Raybestos clutch packs for the 4t45e and I also have the 4t65hd so I can go either route. The Raybestos pac also came with new springs and plungers for the VB.
And its not even available yet to market.
My dad worked for Raybestos for over 40 years
so I get to try things out a littel early sometimes.
Just supply the data/parts they need, which is good for me and my small business.

People have been getting the Raybestos packs for the Grand Am's for awhile already.

[Vipey1337]

Originally Posted by grandma

People have been getting the Raybestos packs for the Grand Am's for awhile already.

Doesn't mean they're available to the market

[xeroinfinity]

Originally Posted by grandma

People have been getting the Raybestos packs for the Grand Am's for awhile already.

Thier is a OEM replacement!
These are performance or I wouldnt be wasting my time on OEM junk
These came in a brown paper box
And are going to be rated for something like 1000 HP

You are refering too these 65 T-Raptor Parts, junk IMO.

#3R. 4T45E Raybestos Red clutch module with STAGE-1 RED clutches. Same as above but for a 1995 up 4T45E transmission. Cost $179.00

http://www.transmissioncenter.net/alto_2.htm