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Old 09-12-2002, 09:20 PM   #16
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okkkkkk

i give up. damnnnnnn, i only posted to talk about a race, sorrrryyyy. and whats w/the noob bs and newbie bs. maybe to THIS board but i've owned and driven more cars then any of you. Anywayz, ok you win, lol it's not a "power adder" you da man.. and vtec does "kick in" that all my original post said. i wasn't trying to get technical. u all win. thanx..
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Old 09-12-2002, 09:24 PM   #17
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dont act like we were being asses, because youre the one who was running your mouth like you knew what you were talking about

and 30 posts makes you a newb no matter how many you have on other boards.

you say youve driven and owned more cars than us but ill bet we know more about them if that is true
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Old 09-12-2002, 09:26 PM   #18
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Run your list of cars then...
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Old 09-12-2002, 09:59 PM   #19
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Off the subject a minute The SHO can be made pretty fast, if his trans had not been slipping he might just of walked you.
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yes SHOs are:coolguy:
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Old 09-13-2002, 01:47 AM   #21
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The funny thing about SHO's are that the later, V8 versions are mid-to-high 15-second cars, and the earlier V6 models were high 14's to low 15's.

Oh in race-talk...power-adder, like everybody else pointed out, is a turbo, supercharger, or nitrous-oxide. In all actuality, this is untrue, because you can't call a car without any of this as not having a power-adder, and running 13's or better, when stock, they run 15's or slower. It's not that they don't have power-adders, they're just naturally-aspirated, as opposed to having forced-induction.

In real-world talk, as itsmeek pointed out, ANYTHING that adds power is a power-adder...racing circles are not usually the breeding grounds for Nobel Prize laureates...

Oh, and for me, who is a proud VTEC junkie, VTEC kicks...you feel it kick in when you hit the RPM necessary to switch to the big lobe. The only thing wrong about itsmeek's statement is he said he felt it kick in in 2nd gear...it should've "kicked-in" in first gear too. But then again, in fairness, he might've meant WHEN his VTEC kicked in in 2nd gear, is when he achieved enough acceleration to pass the SHO. Oh, and one last thing, if he didn't have that "kick" from his "power-adder", do you think his car would've had the balls to pass the SHO?

P.S. Turbo "kicks" too...but mostly because of turbo-lag...this is why an Eaton supercharger does not "kick"-in at any point after you first mash in the pedal...the boost is there from 0 RPM all the way to redline.
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Old 09-13-2002, 06:09 AM   #22
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oh about the sho

i did pass him when my vtec ENGAGED in 2nd gear i could run a list of cars, but why?? i will never sit here and say i'm an engineer type because i'm not. i'm a dba, which makes me sick in the head in the first place. I owned a dealership, thats why I say i've driven more cars then most or probably all out there. We dealt high end imports and sports cars, so I've driven the porsches, the M3's, the vettes, and the ferraris. They're quick cars, and I'll never say I can beat one in my RSX-S unless I put thousands of dollars into it, which just isn't worth it to me. I could go get a vette and put not even close as much into it and never be beat by a street-legal 4 banger, but you never know...i've seen a dodge colt and a chevy astro that ruled v-street (d.c.). the astro surprised me at first when he blew my doors off vs my 98 vette last year.
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Old 09-13-2002, 06:11 AM   #23
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and one more thing, can u PLEASSSEEEE send me a link that says ford made a v8 sho? i coulda sworn they put the pushrod v8 from the 'stang in the sho one year, but the guy that works w/me -(SHO enthusiast); swears they never put a V8 into a production model of a taurus.
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Old 09-13-2002, 10:16 AM   #24
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In that case, I know you've driven more than me if you work at a dealership, enough said.
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i tought all SHOs were v8s, but i think they were horizontally mounted, like a V6. they were at a smaller angle as opposed to a 45 degree V8
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nah

i definitely know all aren't v8's as i had one recently and it was a supercharged v6.
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hmm interesting would that be the same supercharged v6 that is in the thunderbird SC?
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Old 09-13-2002, 11:23 AM   #28
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well the thunderbird sc had a 3.8l v6 in it the taurus sho a 3.0 liter, both made 220 hp. wow.
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no it isnt smart guy a power adder is classified as a turbo, supercharger or nitrous. By your definition, intake is a power adder.

??? What the hell are you talking about hahahaha. Let's put this in Plain English does it add power? Does an Intake add power? Then it is a power adder.

It may not add power like a Turbo, Supercharger or nitrous but it still add's power. Got that picture is soo freakin ugly lol.
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