Malaysian GP

RallyRaider · 03-20-2005, 03:50 AM

How nice to have a Blue and Yellow steamroller instead of the regular red one.

Well done to Renault and Alonso, as well as Toyota for their first ever podium.
On the downside Kimi's race was once again ruined by bad luck and Webber missed out on a podium. I have yet to see the race but will be studying the Webber-Fisichella incident with interest!

ales · 03-20-2005, 04:01 AM

Very good job by Renault, same for Toyota and Nick. Apart from the obvious, most disapointing were the BARs with both their new Honda engines blowing up on the second lap.

Webber has been on the receiving end of the last corner incidents twice today - first time when Ralf tried to overtake him on the inside and understeered into Webber (the touch wasn't that hard though). The second time was when Webbo tried to overtake Fisico on the outside and the latter tried to defent too hard and also slid into Mark. Not intentional, but still Fisico's fault IMO.

RallyRaider · 03-20-2005, 04:08 AM

Yeah very disapointing for Davidson, would have been nice to see him get a fair run in a race. Although with zero preparation that would have been difficult. Did BAR actually fit new engines? Don't recall seeing anything difinitive about that.

A shame the race couldn't have gone a lap or two longer, Kimi was reeling in Klien and SchumacherM by a second or more a lap at the death.

eps · 03-20-2005, 04:12 AM

It looked like Fisico locked up and just lost the tail and slid right into him. I wonder if the drivers will have a meeting and vote on weather or not he should apologize, like they did to MS.

Barrichello didn’t even finish because of tire wear, not that he was in position for points anyways. Yet it looked like Renault had plenty of tread left. I’m interested to see how well the drivers change their style because of this new rule.

ales · 03-20-2005, 04:22 AM

There was no vote, the drivers aren't intelligent enough for that.

From what I've heard, Rubens chose a softer tyre to Schumacher, not that either of those worked, but at least Schumi got to the end of the race.

I have no idea what happened to Kimi and why he suddenly had a disintegrated tyre. All we were shown were the aftermaths.

Good point on Honda changing engines, perhaps they didn't change them. Looking back, and if they didn't, maybe they should have

RallyRaider · 03-20-2005, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ales

There was no vote, the drivers aren't intelligent enough for that.

I heard they did. Seems rather petty if true.

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Originally Posted by ales

From what I've heard, Rubens chose a softer tyre to Schumacher, not that either of those worked, but at least Schumi got to the end of the race.

And if my eyes didn't decieve me, was actually lapped by a Toyota at one point.

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Originally Posted by ales

I have no idea what happened to Kimi and why he suddenly had a disintegrated tyre. All we were shown were the aftermaths.

Probably was the tyre that should have blown at Spa last year.

At least he was comprehensively faster than Montoya yet again.

ales · 03-20-2005, 06:06 AM

The "there was no vote" and drivers "aren't intelligent enough" are Webber's direct words. They discussed the matter, but there was no vote.

I never expected anything else from Kimi vs Montoya, at least for the first 1/3 of the season. But probably after that too.

eps · 03-20-2005, 08:07 AM

http://f1.racing-live.com/en/index.h...2245.shtml</a>

Quoted from somebody who spoke with MS.
“I just got off the phone with Mike. He said the story is true, and that it was a 19-1 vote against. He did state that he voted against himself, and it was Heidfeld that voted for him.”

It was also mentioned in qualifying.

I really enjoyed the race. If FIA really did want to make the races more enjoyable with their rule changes, I think they have done it.

Dreamspawn · 03-20-2005, 02:39 PM

The honda engines were changed. They were the new spec engine they devolped since austrilia. What was up with Sato was he sick? Also did nebody decided to challenge nebodys tires? Renualt 2/2 could be a sign?? lets hope.

street_racer_00 · 03-20-2005, 05:53 PM

Well a big part of why ferrari isn't running so well right now(understatement to say the least) are the bridgestone tires, as they didn't do as much testing as michelin did. I'm pretty stoked to see Toyota FINALLY doing well (2nd in manufacturers points) and bummed to see BAR doing poorly (zero manufacturers points)...I'm sure that when ferrari comes out with the F2005, they will be back at the front of the field, although not dominating like they did the last 2 seasons...As for Web and Fis, looks like Fis just got too lose under braking and slid wide right into Web...I was shocked at how terrible the tires looked on Trulli's car near the end of the race, especially the right front, HUGE blister, whereas Alonzos tires were looking pretty well.

Dreamspawn · 03-20-2005, 06:08 PM

Renualt has usally been known to be nice on tires as they are also known for there starts. Bridgestone has 3 times this year i believe. So i agree mich. has got alot more test time. I was so sad to see BAR go up like that. Also kimi coming late in the race after the blown tire.

Guido · 03-21-2005, 06:09 AM

As for why Ferrari are not up to speed, it certainly may have to do with the Bridgestones, but... the decision to update the 2004 car to 2005 spec, was not a good call - you can see it in the pics, they did some serious kit bashing

the frontwing is not integrated (pics from Australia) - and the results are showing it.

Rumours say that the 2005 car could see real racing as soon as Bahrain, but I wonder if you decide to cut down development time by one month is gonna do any good...

Renault build a car quick out of the box - which is very good and show that Flavio still knows how to run it - and leaving all the others playing catch-up.

Red Bull racing Ferrari's

I bet DC didn't think about that, before the season actually started...

ales · 03-21-2005, 11:47 AM

Go on, make fun, you may need it.

Wait, doesn't Ferrari have the same number of points as Williams?

Wait! Doesn't Ferrari, even after such dire performance, actually lead McLaren by one point in the standings?

So, what exactly are you happy about?

Of course there's also a matter of Rubens leading both Mclaren drivers and Schumacher leading one of them in the drivers' championship. And since we're talking about DC's dreams (who is like a new man this year, but it's a separate topic), he's also in fron of both Mclaren drivers in the standings?

freakray · 03-21-2005, 12:37 PM

Little early in the season to start shouting the odds about who will win the championship isn't it?

Dreamspawn · 03-21-2005, 12:51 PM

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Little early in the season to start shouting the odds about who will win the championship isn't it?

I agree espically with 19 races this year isn't it.

Also ales you seem to know ALOT bout F1 i bought the 2001 Formula 1 annual and i was looking in the specs. The book has like everything save for length,width,heighth, and front/rear track whats up with that? Do u know where i could find this info? The reason i ask is i'm considering on helping a buddy of mine start his own F1 replica.

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