More "fair and balanced" war reporting
YogsVR4
04-08-2003, 11:37 AM
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2003/04/07/019.html
Monday, Apr. 7, 2003. Page 4
General: Baghdad Defenses Are Strong
By Eric Engleman
The Associated Press
A former Soviet general who visited Iraq shortly before the start of the war said Friday that Baghdad's defenses are strong and that U.S.-led forces are faltering.
Retired Colonel General Vladislav Achalov, a former Soviet deputy defense minister, said he had "repeatedly visited Iraq just before the war" and had inspected Baghdad's "multiple defense rings," which he said were "impossible to break straight away," the Interfax-Military News Agency reported.
Gazeta.ru, a news web site, reported last week that Achalov and another retired Russian general, Igor Maltsev, had visited Baghdad less than 10 days ahead of the U.S.-led offensive. The report showed photographs of them receiving medals from Iraqi Defense Minister Sultan Hashim Ahmed.
In an interview posted on the web site, Achalov refused to characterize the nature of his visit but said he "didn't fly to Baghdad to drink coffee," feeding speculation that the retired generals had been advising the Iraqi military.
"I believe the Americans have so far been unable to capture a single large locality because the Iraqis organized their defense using the combat experience of the Soviet army, obtained during World War II," Achalov told the Interfax-Military News Agency.
A Defense Ministry spokesman refused to comment on the activities of former military officials in Iraq. "It's politics and we don't deal with it," the spokesman said.
The U.S. Embassy in Moscow also declined comment.
Allegations of Russian involvement in the Iraqi military effort are a sore point between Moscow and Washington. The U.S. government has accused Russian companies of providing Iraq with anti-tank guided missiles, satellite jamming devices and night-vision goggles, perhaps through a third country, in violation of United Nations sanctions. Russia has vehemently denied the claim.
Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov again rejected the U.S. allegations Friday, but added that the combat performance of Iraq's Soviet-era weapons was giving Russia "a good information resource for advertising our weapons," Interfax reported.
Achalov said some 6,500 Soviet military advisers and experts were stationed in Baghdad until the early 1990s and had made a "significant contribution" to strengthening the Iraqi armed forces, the Interfax-Military News Agency reported.
Achalov and Maltsev, former head of the Soviet Air Defense Forces, were dismissed from the military for supporting the 1991 hardline coup against Mikhail Gorbachev. Achalov is an expert in the use of rapid-reaction forces, Gazeta.ru reported.
Also Friday, Nezavisimaya Gazeta, quoting unnamed military officials, reported that a scheduled Russian naval deployment to the Indian Ocean could be headed to the Arabian Sea and Persian Gulf -- and include several nuclear submarines.
Ivanov reaffirmed Friday that the ships would only go the Indian Ocean and denied that the "long-planned" exercises had anything to do with Iraq. "As for the statements that nuclear weapons will be on board the Russian combat vessels, I say that any self-respecting army does not comment on such statements," Interfax quoted Ivanov as saying Friday during a visit to Minsk.
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Monday, Apr. 7, 2003. Page 4
General: Baghdad Defenses Are Strong
By Eric Engleman
The Associated Press
A former Soviet general who visited Iraq shortly before the start of the war said Friday that Baghdad's defenses are strong and that U.S.-led forces are faltering.
Retired Colonel General Vladislav Achalov, a former Soviet deputy defense minister, said he had "repeatedly visited Iraq just before the war" and had inspected Baghdad's "multiple defense rings," which he said were "impossible to break straight away," the Interfax-Military News Agency reported.
Gazeta.ru, a news web site, reported last week that Achalov and another retired Russian general, Igor Maltsev, had visited Baghdad less than 10 days ahead of the U.S.-led offensive. The report showed photographs of them receiving medals from Iraqi Defense Minister Sultan Hashim Ahmed.
In an interview posted on the web site, Achalov refused to characterize the nature of his visit but said he "didn't fly to Baghdad to drink coffee," feeding speculation that the retired generals had been advising the Iraqi military.
"I believe the Americans have so far been unable to capture a single large locality because the Iraqis organized their defense using the combat experience of the Soviet army, obtained during World War II," Achalov told the Interfax-Military News Agency.
A Defense Ministry spokesman refused to comment on the activities of former military officials in Iraq. "It's politics and we don't deal with it," the spokesman said.
The U.S. Embassy in Moscow also declined comment.
Allegations of Russian involvement in the Iraqi military effort are a sore point between Moscow and Washington. The U.S. government has accused Russian companies of providing Iraq with anti-tank guided missiles, satellite jamming devices and night-vision goggles, perhaps through a third country, in violation of United Nations sanctions. Russia has vehemently denied the claim.
Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov again rejected the U.S. allegations Friday, but added that the combat performance of Iraq's Soviet-era weapons was giving Russia "a good information resource for advertising our weapons," Interfax reported.
Achalov said some 6,500 Soviet military advisers and experts were stationed in Baghdad until the early 1990s and had made a "significant contribution" to strengthening the Iraqi armed forces, the Interfax-Military News Agency reported.
Achalov and Maltsev, former head of the Soviet Air Defense Forces, were dismissed from the military for supporting the 1991 hardline coup against Mikhail Gorbachev. Achalov is an expert in the use of rapid-reaction forces, Gazeta.ru reported.
Also Friday, Nezavisimaya Gazeta, quoting unnamed military officials, reported that a scheduled Russian naval deployment to the Indian Ocean could be headed to the Arabian Sea and Persian Gulf -- and include several nuclear submarines.
Ivanov reaffirmed Friday that the ships would only go the Indian Ocean and denied that the "long-planned" exercises had anything to do with Iraq. "As for the statements that nuclear weapons will be on board the Russian combat vessels, I say that any self-respecting army does not comment on such statements," Interfax quoted Ivanov as saying Friday during a visit to Minsk.
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taranaki
04-08-2003, 06:07 PM
Makes a change to read the opposite bias to that which we are continuallt being fed,but I'd trade it all in right now for some reasonably neutral reporting of the facts.:(
MattyG
04-08-2003, 07:31 PM
I would say that this article was accurately reported drivel.
That is, what was "said" was probably conveyed as it was said; it's just the content was stupid.
That is, what was "said" was probably conveyed as it was said; it's just the content was stupid.
Jay!
04-08-2003, 07:58 PM
Originally posted by taranaki
...I'd trade it all in right now for some reasonably neutral reporting of the facts.:( Yeah. Too bad we can't get the martian news on the satelite dish. :(
...I'd trade it all in right now for some reasonably neutral reporting of the facts.:( Yeah. Too bad we can't get the martian news on the satelite dish. :(
1985_BMW318i
04-08-2003, 09:14 PM
Yeah. Too bad we can't get the martian news on the satelite dish.
You can if its Direct TV, Its Channel 595 :D
You can if its Direct TV, Its Channel 595 :D
NSX-R-SSJ20K
04-09-2003, 05:11 AM
i thing that ring is rubbish
reasonable facts? They just throw on any old rubbish report onto the TV without checking its Validity which seems dumb:o but its makes for interesting TV to see what other BS they can publish
reasonable facts? They just throw on any old rubbish report onto the TV without checking its Validity which seems dumb:o but its makes for interesting TV to see what other BS they can publish
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