Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize

From http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/barack-obama-wins-nobel-peace-prize/article1318102/

Now, I'm a big Obama fan, but it's obvious that he was nominated no later than 2 weeks after he took office.... before he had actually done much relevant to the prize.

I think Obama has not earned it yet. He's quite capable of doing so, but IMO it's unreasonable to award it so early in his term.


America's new president Barack Obama was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize this morning for his "extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and co-operation between peoples."

Mr. Obama is the fourth U.S. president to win the peace price but the first to win for - in the words of the Norwegian selection committee - providing "hope for a better future" rather than any particular accomplishment.

Awarding the world's most prestigious prize for peace to a president in office less than nine months came as a surprise.

A White House official said this morning that Mr. Obama feels "humbled" to receive the Peace Prize.

But Mr. Obama has galvanized the world, proving himself wildly popular around the globe, especially in comparison to is predecessor George W. Bush.

The Norwegian Nobel Committee said it attached particular ``importance to Obama's vision of and work for a world without nuclear weapons.''

At times, the citation seems to focus on Mr. Obama's global popularity - currently higher than his approval ratings at home - rather than any specific achievements.

"Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention,'' the selection committee said, adding "those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world's population.''

The award - which includes a cash prize of $1.4-million U.S. - was welcomed by some prominent peace groups.

"We trust that this award will strengthen his commitment, as the leader of the most powerful nation in the world, to continue promoting peace and the eradication of poverty," the Mandela Foundation, named for the former South African president who spent decades in prison, said in a statement.

Mr. Obama, among only a few U.S. politicians who opposed the 2003 war to topple Saddam Hussein's regime in Iraq is currently in the middle of intense negotiations on re crafting a war strategy for Afghanistan.

More than 200 people were nominated for the 2009 peace prize. The Nobel committee received a record 205 nominations for this year's prize.

Nominations closed barely two weeks after the president had taken office.

:puke:

Not that he's done ANYTHING worth a damn since being in office, but the fact that he was nominated a mere 11 days in speaks volumes to me:

He won the Nobel Peace Prize because he's black.

That's right, I said it (although I'm pretty sure I'm not the first.) At 11 days in the ONLY thing he'd accomplished was being the first black man elected to the presidency. Talk about doing an injustice to The Dalai Lama, Mother Teresa, MLK Jr., and all of the others who've actually DONE something. Hell, at least Jimmy's been out swinging hammers for the poor for the last couple decades. Alfred Nobel is spinning in his grave.

It's funny, a friend of mine challenged my question of "wondering on what grounds it was decided that Obama should receive the Nobel Peace Prize," by saying that the grounds for the prize were clearly stated.

But, I think it seems as though they are awarding him on the premise that what he has offered in the way of his ideas for hope, change and peace have great potential.

I agree that he has done a lot in the last year. However, the promises of change, ideas surrounding hope and peace and the desire that he has shown for a more positive view and role of the United States are still a work in progress and I feel that I would be remiss if I didn't say that it is too early to deem his ventures a success.

I'll be honest, my skepticism has not faded based on this decision. In fact, I think this puts that much more pressure on the man to follow through with his promises and ideas. That doesn't mean I don't believe he can do it, but I think there are far too many people willing to say that it's going to happen when perhaps the more rational thing to do would be to give him at least a couple of years to pass judgment about the possibility that he might.

It would be like me promising to have a great newspaper with lots of specific content over the course of a four-year stint and then 7 months or so into that stint, based on my stories thus far, I'm given an achievement award for the future successes that I have promised.

In short: Good for him. Too early? Probably. I want to see more than 7 months of work for a potentially eight-year encompassing award. Again, I'm not saying he doesn't deserve it, but I think it would behoove the panel to wait a little longer. The expectation he has above his head just got 10 times larger and if the results are anything less than what the American public think he has proposed, he will sink under the weight of said lofty expectations.

I am not a fan of him and does not deserve it.Since he went into office,some ammunition for guns are going scarce and getting hard to find.Some are stock loading on gun ammo.He is lieing about our economy,it is not getting better and one fix is to get rid of NAFTA sending our jobs back here.

Well, now we have Jimmy Carter, Al Gore & Obama all sharing the same meaningless prize; who is next, Bill Clinton? :loser:

It appears that the Nobel gang has once again devalued the intention of this award and it now has about the same meaning as the prize in a box of Cracker Jacks! :disappoin I wonder how much "sharing of wealth" Obama will be willing to spread around out of the 1.2M check that comes with this hilarious endowment bestowed upon him. I suppose if you were to ask him for some, you will probably get this :flipa: in return!

The big question with troops in Afghanistan is, How soon can we expect a decision from President Obama? I don’t think it’s going to happen anytime soon. Remember — it took five months to decide on a puppy.Jay Leno

This is about the prize, not about Obama.

Quite simply, the prize is supposed to be for a person's achievement, not what a person might do.
What bothers me more is that this completely disregards/disrespects the other nominations.

He shouldn't have gotten the Nobel prize, thats just retarded. He hasn't done anything great yet. like Teng said, he won the prize cause he's black, guess what else he won for being black?

. like Teng said, he won the prize cause he's black,

Imho it's far more likely that he won it because he's not another member of the Bush family :)

Imho it's far more likely that he won it because he's not another member of the Bush family :) :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: I felt much safer from terrorist attacks during the Bush regime, than I do now. Hang on my friend, it's just a matter of time until we have another 9/11, (or worse.) Let's hope you are not one of the victims. :iceslolan Time will tell how Obama will handle the aftermath! If he does a good job, he could qualify for this prize, if not, he will be no more worthy than he is now! :smokin:

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: I felt much safer from terrorist attacks during the Bush regime, than I do now. Hang on my friend, it's just a matter of time until we have another 9/11, (or worse.) Let's hope you are not one of the victims. :iceslolan Time will tell how Obama will handle the aftermath! If he does a good job, he could qualify for this prize, if not, he will be no more worthy than he is now! :smokin:

Obama has enough on his plate. Having a group of Norwegians ratchet-up the expectations level is something he does not need.

As for safety? Frankly, I was more terrified of Cheney/Bush/Rumsfeld/Ashcroft than anyone else. :)

However, I believe the safety of the US is mainly in the hands of people who work in intelligence, foreign policy and the military.
Thankfully, they do not have to worry about being elected and can do their jobs the way they are meant to be.... and not the way that's politically expedient.

I felt much safer from terrorist attacks during the Bush regime, than I do now.

Our federal government is a terrorist attack. :uhoh:

The Jay Leno Show

● Congratulations to Barack Obama — he has won the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize. Apparently, the Nobel committee wanted to recognize the president’s fine work in bringing peace to a black professor and a white cop through the strategic use of beer.

● President Obama said he was humbled to win the prize. Not as humble as he was when Rio got the Olympics. But still humble.

● President Obama said he will go to Oslo, Norway to collect the award. Roman Polanski said, “It’s a trick — don’t go; you’ll be arrested.”

● That’s pretty amazing, winning the Nobel Peace Prize. Ironically, his biggest accomplishment as president so far . . . winning the Nobel Peace Prize.

Obama's nomination for and receipt of the award is nothing but a manifestation of the moronic nature of the adherents of socialism and statism. The man is undoubtedly the greatest threat to human rights and liberty to come along since Pol Pot.

Obama's nomination for and receipt of the award is nothing but a manifestation of the moronic nature of the adherents of socialism and statism. The man is undoubtedly the greatest threat to human rights and liberty to come along since Pol Pot.

You know, such over-the-top comments such as yours might be funny if they were not so sad.

Pol Pot's regime and policies killed about 2 million people, possibly as much as 2.5 million.
Obama's policies have not killed anyone yet. Comparing the two is insulting to Americans and Cambodians.

So, please, try to keep some sense of reason in your comments. :)

:puke:
Me too!
http://i816.photobucket.com/albums/zz82/thegladhatter/bhopeaceprize.jpg

Well, now we have Jimmy Carter, Al Gore & Obama all sharing the same meaningless prize; who is next, Bill Clinton? :loser:

It appears that the Nobel gang has once again devalued the intention of this award and it now has about the same meaning as the prize in a box of Cracker Jacks! :disappoin I wonder how much "sharing of wealth" Obama will be willing to spread around out of the 1.2M check that comes with this hilarious endowment bestowed upon him. I suppose if you were to ask him for some, you will probably get this :flipa: in return!

Jay Leno

Yep!! The Nobel Prize just scoots deeper into the toilet!
Algore, JIMMY CARTER, KOFI ANNAN, YASSER ARAFAT.... Whatr esteemed company!?:jerking:

Yea Al Gore is more than likely gona get put up for fraud. Turns out there is no global warming..... and he knew the whole time

Yea Al Gore is more than likely gona get put up for fraud. Turns out there is no global warming..... and he knew the whole time

He'll never get in trouble for it, he has too many powerful friends.

Look at Charles Rangel. He blatently lies on his tax returns for years, but he still works in D.C.

He'll never get in trouble for it, he has too many powerful friends.

Look at Charles Rangel. He blatently lies on his tax returns for years, but he still works in D.C.

No really, they're all goin down.

Someone leaked thousands of Emails and documents from their research center, all showin that they global warming was something they made up.

http://www.crn.com/security/221901039;jsessionid=Y0JX2JEAJ5ZMBQE1GHOSKHWATMY32 JVN

No really, they're all goin down.

Someone leaked thousands of Emails and documents from their research center, all showin that they global warming was something they made up.

http://www.crn.com/security/221901039;jsessionid=Y0JX2JEAJ5ZMBQE1GHOSKHWATMY32 JVN

Thats really good news, maybe we can make some progress before the feds sign binding treaties and the like that we couldn't back out of.

Of course, some crony is going to go on CNN and explain how the documents were 'taken out of context'.:shakehead

Thats really good news, maybe we can make some progress before the feds sign binding treaties and the like that we couldn't back out of.

Of course, some crony is going to go on CNN and explain how the documents were 'taken out of context'.:shakehead

His whole argument of global warming has been proven wrong anyway. CO2 lags behind Temperature by 800 years, to CO2 is dependent on temp. not the other way around.

Ohh and take a look at this, its hysterical.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNzBRiAyn8o

Ohh and take a look at this, its hysterical.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNzBRiAyn8o

His behavior and mannerisms really change when he actually has to answer questions.

You can tell he's used to just giving a speech and leaving, without giving anyone a chance to counter his claims.

When dude is painted into a corner.....he looks even stupider than before!

Take back Al Gores Oscar (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/12/al-gore-oscar-global-warming.html)???????

He is more dumb now,wants to tax guns and he does not know one thing.Every rifle,shotgun,hand gun paperwork after purchase is thrown out after 90 days.

Obama walks into a bar with a parrot on his shoulder... Bartender looks up and says, "Where'd you get that?" Parrot says, "Kenya, they're all over the place!!"

His whole argument of global warming has been proven wrong anyway. CO2 lags behind Temperature by 800 years, to CO2 is dependent on temp. not the other way around.

Ohh and take a look at this, its hysterical.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNzBRiAyn8o

What are you talking about? All you Ostriches that say Climate Change isn't real are just closing your eyes and thinking of the next dollar to make, to hell with the planet. And if it was just your planet you were ruining I'd be fine with it - I'd love to park an H2 in your garage and leave it running so you can say "emissions don't matter! Look, it's fine in here...ahem...gasp.." oh wait, this stuff IS toxic! But unfortunately you're ruining my planet, and the planet for generations to come, to which I take great offense, as do millions of other people.

The United Nations and the IPCC (Ingergovernmental Panel on Climate Change - i.e. representatives from around the world) published in 2007 that climate change is fundamentally and scientifically factual with repeatable and demonstratable physical evidence, and that the cause of such warming trends is likely caused by human activity. Just recently your own government has declared that C02 is a toxic substance and therefore the EPA can pass regulation as it sees fit.

In the end the environment will outlast humans, so beating up on the planet will really only affect you and me. For those that choose to deny the facts are really only shooting themselves in the foot, mother nature would be just as happy without us building highways and tearing down forests. My point is, even if it takes some effort on our part, I'd like to stay for a while - I quite like it here. What we have is not sustainable, that should be plainly obvious and the longer we march blindly forward the harder the fall when the party ends. But we need innovators and brilliant minds to be working on ways to generate sustainable power, housing, food, transportation, etc. The world already knows there is a problem, the solution gets a little more complicated.

CO2 is NOT pollution!! Never has been....never will. If a 10,000 seat stadium were the air......4 of those seats would be CO2. Purty danged insignificant there, Cletus!

Climate may be changing....but it does so in cycles. We are really in the COOLING portion of the cycle right now.

What are you talking about? All you Ostriches that say Climate Change isn't real are just closing your eyes and thinking of the next dollar to make, to hell with the planet. And if it was just your planet you were ruining I'd be fine with it - I'd love to park an H2 in your garage and leave it running so you can say "emissions don't matter! Look, it's fine in here...ahem...gasp.." oh wait, this stuff IS toxic! But unfortunately you're ruining my planet, and the planet for generations to come, to which I take great offense, as do millions of other people.

The United Nations and the IPCC (Ingergovernmental Panel on Climate Change - i.e. representatives from around the world) published in 2007 that climate change is fundamentally and scientifically factual with repeatable and demonstratable physical evidence, and that the cause of such warming trends is likely caused by human activity. Just recently your own government has declared that C02 is a toxic substance and therefore the EPA can pass regulation as it sees fit.

In the end the environment will outlast humans, so beating up on the planet will really only affect you and me. For those that choose to deny the facts are really only shooting themselves in the foot, mother nature would be just as happy without us building highways and tearing down forests. My point is, even if it takes some effort on our part, I'd like to stay for a while - I quite like it here. What we have is not sustainable, that should be plainly obvious and the longer we march blindly forward the harder the fall when the party ends. But we need innovators and brilliant minds to be working on ways to generate sustainable power, housing, food, transportation, etc. The world already knows there is a problem, the solution gets a little more complicated.

CO2 in extreme amounts is poisonous to Humans because its waste our bodies give off while performing cellular respiration. Guess what plants use? CO2 is one of the BASIC BUILDING BLOCK OF LIFE. Its NOT toxic. Am I saying we should all go out and put off as much CO2 as possible? Hell no, I kinda like my smooth air. But we don't need to spend BILLIONS of $ bullshitting people into crap they don't need.

And just to shake your little skull a tad. During the last, about 10,000 years give or take. The world has been in a warm phase. Guess what comes after that? Yea thats right, it gets really frekin cold. Bottom line, the world goes through climactical changes on a consistent pattern. Humans don't do a damn thing to change that.
:shakehead at all you Al Gore leg humpers. Notice the lack of real answers he had for the Supreme Court?

Heres another: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7VUg7nG3lw&NR=1

CO2 in extreme amounts is poisonous to Humans because its waste our bodies give off while performing cellular respiration. Guess what plants use? CO2 is one of the BASIC BUILDING BLOCK OF LIFE. Its NOT toxic. Am I saying we should all go out and put off as much CO2 as possible? Hell no, I kinda like my smooth air. But we don't need to spend BILLIONS of $ bullshitting people into crap they don't need.

And just to shake your little skull a tad. During the last, about 10,000 years give or take. The world has been in a warm phase. Guess what comes after that? Yea thats right, it gets really frekin cold. Bottom line, the world goes through climactical changes on a consistent pattern. Humans don't do a damn thing to change that.
:shakehead at all you Al Gore leg humpers. Notice the lack of real answers he had for the Supreme Court?

Heres another: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7VUg7nG3lw&NR=1

Typical conspiracy theorist. You distrust government and believe it, and the UN are actually out to do you harm. This is quite a common theme among many people, and imo explains why so many of you believe Americans never actually landed on the moon.

The problem with your weather cycle theory is that weather changes in the past have destroyed ecosystems, have produced mass extinctions and have lead to the downfall of human civilizations in the past. And it does not take thousands of years for these things to happen. By the time there is tangible proof (ie, the water coming over your doorstep) it will be too late for us to make a beneficial change.

Personally, I am not a huge fan of the climate change theory, but it is easy to see, for so many reasons, we have to change our ways, to preserve resources, reduce climate change and not stress the environment the way we have been.

Typical conspiracy theorist. You distrust government and believe it, and the UN are actually out to do you harm. This is quite a common theme among many people, and imo explains why so many of you believe Americans never actually landed on the moon.

The problem with your weather cycle theory is that weather changes in the past have destroyed ecosystems, have produced mass extinctions and have lead to the downfall of human civilizations in the past. And it does not take thousands of years for these things to happen. By the time there is tangible proof (ie, the water coming over your doorstep) it will be too late for us to make a beneficial change.

Personally, I am not a huge fan of the climate change theory, but it is easy to see, for so many reasons, we have to change our ways, to preserve resources, reduce climate change and not stress the environment the way we have been.

I agree that we still need to cut back on pollution. But having idiotic emissions laws that keep us from getting cars that get far better fuel mileage is just arrogant.

But going out and saying that CO2 emissions from cars is the biggest problem the world is facing? Thats far more arrogant. One of the major downfalls leading to the recession was the climate change movement. cars like the Prius get praised by bias blinded companies leading Mr and Mrs average citizen to believe a Hybrid piece of crap is the best way to save to world.

Little things like that start to add up after a while. And then we get the "CARS" program, talk about not thinking that through.

then theres the government "stimulus" packages. Way to put my generation, the next gen. and the next, and so on, into debt. Where I understand Obama was hardly the face behind that, c'mon. Him and his groupies in D.C. somehow managed to more than double the nations debt in under a year. smooth move Mr. Change.

I agree that we still need to cut back on pollution. But having idiotic emissions laws that keep us from getting cars that get far better fuel mileage is just arrogant.

What?
Where do you get that low emmision cars are fuel inefficient?

One of the major downfalls leading to the recession was the climate change movement.

What?
I would say that concerns with emmisions has been one of the key driving forces in getting more and more efficient engines.

then theres the government "stimulus" packages. Way to put my generation, the next gen. and the next, and so on, into debt.

If there were no stimulus packages, various companies would not have been able to sustain themselves. They would have gone bust and tens, if not hundreds of thousands of people would be unemployed with no hope for a job for many years to come.
Please tell me how that is a better situation.

What?
Where do you get that low emmision cars are fuel inefficient?



A lot of the foreign diesel engines get far better mileage than current Hybrids (<--lol). Emissions laws helped to keep them from being brought to the US, to an extent.


If there were no stimulus packages, various companies would not have been able to sustain themselves. They would have gone bust and tens, if not hundreds of thousands of people would be unemployed with no hope for a job for many years to come.
Please tell me how that is a better situation.

Its not that the whole Stimulus idea was its self bad. But the amount and the way they just threw money at companies was just horrible. They should've concentrated who got how much and they shouldn't have had any where near that much in the bills. Hell they'd have just been better off giving every person in the US 10 grand.

I agree that we still need to cut back on pollution. But having idiotic emissions laws that keep us from getting cars that get far better fuel mileage is just arrogant.

But going out and saying that CO2 emissions from cars is the biggest problem the world is facing? Thats far more arrogant. One of the major downfalls leading to the recession was the climate change movement. cars like the Prius get praised by bias blinded companies leading Mr and Mrs average citizen to believe a Hybrid piece of crap is the best way to save to world.

A lot of the foreign diesel engines get far better mileage than current Hybrids (<--lol). Emissions laws helped to keep them from being brought to the US, to an extent.
Oh jeez, what muddled reasoning. :)

Diesel engine emissions are not particularly concerned with levels of CO2. They are concerned with(among other things) particulate emissions (ie-soot) which is a known carcinogen. Soot emissions damage people, and urban enviornments, but they do not cause global warming.
Most car diesel engines are too sooty and dirty to meet current emissions standards, although this will be rectified with the introduction of particulate traps and urea injection.


Its not that the whole Stimulus idea was its self bad. But the amount and the way they just threw money at companies was just horrible. They should've concentrated who got how much and they shouldn't have had any where near that much in the bills. Hell they'd have just been better off giving every person in the US 10 grand.

I agree with you in part. But realistically, there would be issues with the program, regardless of how the money was spent.

Typical conspiracy theorist.


Hah.

Typical pseudointellectual statist.