Disagree with the president? You must be racist.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8258805.stm

I'm still trying to figure out how this whole fiasco went from ill-timed outburst, to claims of... racism?

The funny thing is, I haven't spoken with a single person yet who thinks this was anything more than a frustrated legislator voicing his objection at an (admittedly) less than appropriate time. That's it. To think that complete idiots like this Dowd character (and others -- including a certain peanut farmer who, ironically, is the very definition of inappropriately voiced opinions) are even given any face time for their lunacy smacks of true racism -- racism against my sanity! (What, it's not possible to be racist against sanity? Apparently it's possible to be racist for voicing one's disagreement with a particular stance on an issue, so considering that, I don't see how my argument is any less valid!)

Seriously though -- if you are one of the minority who are actually buying into this whole bucket of hogwash, please do us all a favor and just. go. away. Personally, racism would be so dead last it's nonexistent on the list of why I think Obama (and his assorted minions) are the most dangerous people in the United States.

I am a big supporter of Obama, and I admire Carter, but I agree; it's a big mistake to bring accusations of racism into this.

Such accusations only serve to further inflame ill-informed attitudes and opinions on both sides of a number of issues at hand. Racism is difficult to prove, distracts people from the issues and is absolutely not constructive.

I am sure some people have undeserved negative racial attitudes towards Obama. So what? It's inevitable that politicians will be the subject of such undeserved bias from some of the electorate. Some people think Pres. Bush is a mouth-breathing idiot, (deserved or not). But he worked around such attitudes and never seemed to blame them for his problems, as far as I know.

Imho, racism is just another stupid, disrespectful opinion. By pointing out racist attitudes, Carter gives some legitimacy towards the racists..... and gives some Democrats a potential excuse for any failures they may have.

I'm still trying to figure out how this whole fiasco went from ill-timed outburst, to claims of... racism?Welcome to Chicago style politics! The current administration is quick to label anyone who disagrees with their agenda, as part of an "organized mob" or as "racists". The quotes below must be included in their daily operational guidelines. :uhoh:

The art of leadership. . . consists in consolidating the attention of the people against a single adversary and taking care that nothing will split up that attention. . . .

Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it

The broad masses of a population are more amenable to the appeal of rhetoric than to any other force.
Adolf HitlerIn addition to Jimmy Carter being such an embarrassment for the people in the state of Georgia, we also have Henry Johnson the Democrat Representative for Georgia - (better known around here as, "Numb-Nuts") making outlandish statements, such as the one shown below! :screwy:
I guess we'll probably have folks putting on white hoods and white uniforms again and riding through the countryside intimidating people. That's the logical conclusion if this kind of attitude is not rebuked. :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

This is an interesting topic to me because I know that there ARE people who believe Obama to be doing a terrible job because of his race. That isn't to suggest that they are the majority in this instance, but I think to simply say "they don't exist," would be acting naive.

I think part of the problem is the portrayal of the issue by the media, who are taking this idea and running with it to the umpteenth degree. As a member of the media, I'm always finding myself disappointed with the way so many journalists spin things.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8258805.stm

Seriously though -- if you are one of the minority who are actually buying into this whole bucket of hogwash, please do us all a favor and just. go. away. Personally, racism would be so dead last it's nonexistent on the list of why I think Obama (and his assorted minions) are the most dangerous people in the United States.

+ eleventy hundred. :iceslolan

That "racist" shtick is wearing thin. I think it automatically categorizes the accuser as a washed up hack with absolutely no counter argument. That's the best they can come up with. "Oh yeah? Well, you're just a big ,um ,um, um poopyhead!"

AFAIC, Obama's race doesn't even remotely qualify as any type of reason to disagree with him. :jerking:

Hell, Jimmy Carter's presidency was one of the biggest cluster flops to grace the White House in recent history. Does that statement make me a whitey hating Black Panther now?

I can't stand him,he is a 100% idiot and ruining this country.He is making it harder to get gun ammo because most of it is going over to Iraq.I do not rrust him and he needs to be impeached now!He lied about Chrysler 300Cs,he had one and said it was a gas hog which they are not
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Not an Obama fan either, only reason he hired such idiots all around him, Biden, Pilosi, etc..., is so that he doesnt look like such an idiot when he says things like, "My Muslim faith", or "but I've already visited the other 56 states".

Good job America, screwed ourselfs in the ass again lmao

Not an Obama fan either, only reason he hired such idiots all around him, Biden, Pilosi, etc...,
Fact check: Obama did not hire Pelosi. She is Speaker of the House which is a position one is elected to by members of the House of Representatives.

what ever he still supports her

He lied about Chrysler 300Cs,he had one and said it was a gas hog which they are not

official numbers:
5.7 is 24.8mpg
6.1 is 20 mpg
the diesel does a little better at 35mpg.

but those are based on the combined cycle testing.
Testers say the combined cycle gives a better figure than you'd get from real world driving.

The 300C he had was on Ebay and the seller wanted a million dollars for it because it was owned by Obama.I would of told the the seller he is smoking something.Obama is a Muslim communist too.I do have two bumper sticks that I am proud owning thsat I bought on Ebay:
I'll keep my money and guns. You keep the change!
I'll keep my guns. You keep the change.

She is Speaker of the House which is a position one is elected to by members of the House of Representatives.What a sad day for America when they voted that bitch to represent the HOUSE! :evillol: BTW, I am happy to say, she does not represent my HOUSE! :headshake

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/9063/pelosi1.jpg

Not an Obama fan either, only reason he hired such idiots all around him, Biden, Pilosi, etc..., is so that he doesnt look like such an idiot when he says things like, "My Muslim faith", or "but I've already visited the other 56 states".


Fact check: Obama did not hire Pelosi. She is Speaker of the House which is a position one is elected to by members of the House of Representatives

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

I rarely come into the Politics forum these days due to the ridiculous string of posts from certain members, but this one is a keeper. Self pwnage to the max! :owned:

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

I rarely come into the Politics forum these days due to the ridiculous string of posts from certain members, but this one is a keeper. Self pwnage to the max! :owned:

More ownage:
The 300C he had was on Ebay and the seller wanted a million dollars for it because it was owned by Obama.
Well, after 5 seconds of looking, I found this, where the 300C was being offered for $100,000, not $1 million. Please check some facts before posting.

http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/cars-trucks/daily-news/081209-Buy-Barack-Obama-s-Chrysler-300C-for-Only-Six-Figures/

Obama is a Muslim communist too.

:rolleyes:This would be funny, except I think you are being serious :) I think his pastor in Chicago would disagree.
Furthermore, communism as an ideology is atheistic, so it is impossible to be ideologically communist and be part of an organized religion. Again, check your facts... even if it's just to spew hate-filled rhetoric :)

He is a Muslim communist,want to screw this country more making it a communist country.His gun ban bills he proposes will not pass,the NRA is way too powerful and he does not know this.His solution to the gun problems are more gun control laws and gun contol does not work.It has been proven,Canada with their handgun bans including the UK have higher crime rates.Austrailia has high crime rates too,banned certain guns.Look at states with concealed weapons laws including Michigan and Texas,crime rates are down and this has been proven.

He is a Muslim communist,want to screw this country more making it a communist country.His gun ban bills he proposes will not pass,the NRA is way too powerful and he does not know this.His solution to the gun problems are more gun control laws and gun contol does not work.It has been proven,Canada with their handgun bans including the UK have higher crime rates.Austrailia has high crime rates too,banned certain guns.Look at states with concealed weapons laws including Michigan and Texas,crime rates are down and this has been proven.

Not sure what the hell your smoking. Canada has one of the lowest violant crime rates in the world, though they have a lot of burgularies because no one bothers to lock their doors.
Mighigan (Detroit) has a high violant crime rate http://www.cityrating.com/citycrime.asp?city=Detroit&state=MI

and sliped on the piosi comment my bad. But using other examples its still true

On a per capita basis, the United States does indeed have a lower crime rate than a lot of other countries.
Thing is, those stats are based on what each country considers crime.
If you look at individual stats of higher profile crimes, things tend to even out.

Not sure how up to date these are.
Muders (http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_percap-crime-murders-per-capita)
Robberies (http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rob_percap-crime-robberies-per-capita)
Burglaries (http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_bur_percap-crime-burglaries-per-capita)
Total (http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_tot_cri_percap-crime-total-crimes-per-capita)

Doesn't mean he's not an idiot though (which he may or may not be)
He only seems to have one source of info (an NRA magazine no less) and he hasn't quite grapsed the concept of bias yet.

And as as you said, I don't see Canada being ranked higher than the US in anything other than burglaries.

Realistically, it is most relevant to compare the US to other industrialized first-world nations, such as western Europe , Canada, Australia, NZ etc.

Many other nations, in Africa, Eastern Europe etc do not have accurate stats, due to a lack of honest law enforcement infrastructure, poor information-gathering techniques, lack of crime reporting etc etc. Comparing their rates to that of the US is apples and oranges.

For example, I have good friends who live in Moscow and family living in Argentina and Chile. All of them say Canada has far lower crime, but a much higher incidence of reporting it.... so Canadian crime stats are higher by comparison. They say petty crime in their countries goes unreported because there are fewer cops, the cops can't do anything anyways and a culture of fear of the police due to corruption etc.

BTW, nice research, and nice lists.

FWIW, I hope wafrederick takes note. As a Canadian gun enthusiast (but not an owner), I am embarrassed by such radical, distorted, irresponsible posts such as his.
Such attitudes polarize the issue, discredit gun-owners and only provide fuel to the gun-banning activists. :(

Imho, it is sad that a great nation such as the US has millions of people who feel they need handguns to defend themselves.
Imo, it's much better to live in a place like Canada, with very, very few handguns.

Canada is a demonstrably safer place to live, nobody legally uses guns for self-defence (cops, military and some security staff aside) because no one feels the need to do so. Yet there are millions of legally-owned rifles and shotguns here (About 1 for every 3.5 people). We just use them to plug geese, ducks and deer, not people. :)

I am not smoking anything and it has been proven.Since Michigan started with the concealed weapons laws,crime went down and a study has proven this.In the state of Michigan,it is legal to shoot a criminal if being threatened by them.Texas is the same way,crime rate down since they have a concealed weapon law too.President Obama is not my president,the president of the NRA is my president.Look at the record of our president when he was a state senator in Illinois,he voted yes on most gun bans and bills that would make it illegal to shoot an intrudor.The NRA even said they would rate the new supreme court judge whom is now the new a new supreme court judge Obama nominated,she hates guns.

.The NRA even said they would rate the new supreme court judge whom is now the new a new supreme court judge Obama nominated,she hates guns.

:confused:

you're only:confused: about that part of the post?

you're only:confused: about that part of the post?

No.:lol:. Just the most incomprehensible part of that text. I try to stay out of these arguments in this forum, rather be a bystander on the sidelines reading the banter. But there comes a time when a post makes no sense at all for a variety of reasons , and it makes it hard to follow along and understand the poster.

The NRA knows her record on her views on the 2nd amendment.Obama will not last,there is going to be someone whom is going to asssanate him one day.

you're only:confused: about that part of the post?
QFT. I don't think that he's capable of putting together a coherent thought.

The NRA knows her record on her views on the 2nd amendment.Obama will not last,there is going to be someone whom is going to asssanate him one day.

Well you really seem to be smoking something. (nice spacing btw lol)
1) You talking about the racist B... lady he picked?
2) stop tryin to load us full of shit, theres this one thing called self-defence, so if someone trys to kill you in any state. you can blow their brains out.
3) What.... the fuck.... are you talking about?
4) State your sources maybe?
5) No one is gona kill Obama, not because not enough people hate him. but because if Obama dies then Biden is president (fuck that) and if Obama and Biden die, I think (correct me if I'm wrong) Pilosi is president, FUCKING HELL NO
and no one has figured out the doin in the trio yet so lol

I am not smoking anything,I am a memeber of the NRA and I read it in the magazine I get from them.I am talking about the racist B and she is no gun rights supporter and disrespects the 2nd amendment.The new law in Michigan is if anyone one running towards you with a knife or any deadly weapon threatening you,you can shoot them and it is legal.Obama needs to learn guns do not kill having no arms and legs,people kill in the wrong hands.Gun control is two hands used.

I am not smoking anything,I am a memeber of the NRA and I read it in the magazine I get from them.I am talking about the racist B and she is no gun rights supporter and disrespects the 2nd amendment.The new law in Michigan is if anyone one running towards you with a knife or any deadly weapon threatening you,you can shoot them and it is legal.Obama needs to learn guns do not kill having no arms and legs,people kill in the wrong hands.Gun control is two hands used.

We know that she hates guns, and if someone runs at you with a knife in any state or most countries for that matter its perfectly legal....... and your a member of NRA? WGAF:loser:

I am not smoking anything,I am a memeber of the NRA and I read it in the magazine I get from them.I am talking about the racist B and she is no gun rights supporter and disrespects the 2nd amendment.The new law in Michigan is if anyone one running towards you with a knife or any deadly weapon threatening you,you can shoot them and it is legal.Obama needs to learn guns do not kill having no arms and legs,people kill in the wrong hands.Gun control is two hands used.
I have a recommendation for you (I am a journalist, for what it's worth).

Do some research on Sotomayor and see what multiple sources say about her beliefs about the 2nd amendment instead of reading a PRO-GUN RIGHTS MAGAZINE and taking their words as law on the issue.

Of course an NRA magazine will nail Sotomayor if she even suggests she has reservations about current gun laws.

Only allowing yourself to see one side of the argument doesn't make you right, it just makes you uninformed and unwilling to have a legitimate discussion. I'll be honest, if you came up to me and said "I'd like to talk to you about gun rights and how this woman who was just elected to the supreme court wants to take them away," and then told me that you were basing your argument on what you read in the NRA magazine, I would walk away.

Long story short: Try engaging in some discussion instead of looking through NRA-colored glasses.

Long story short: Try engaging in some discussion instead of looking through NRA-colored glasses.
I'm sure he talks to other people about it, too. Unfortunately, I'd bet that the conversations go like this though....

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:rofl:

The NRA knows her record on her views on the 2nd amendment.Obama will not last,there is going to be someone whom is going to asssanate him one day.

If I were your English teacher, I would kill myself after reading that.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8258805.stm

I'm still trying to figure out how this whole fiasco went from ill-timed outburst, to claims of... racism?

The funny thing is, I haven't spoken with a single person yet who thinks this was anything more than a frustrated legislator voicing his objection at an (admittedly) less than appropriate time. That's it. To think that complete idiots like this Dowd character (and others -- including a certain peanut farmer who, ironically, is the very definition of inappropriately voiced opinions) are even given any face time for their lunacy smacks of true racism -- racism against my sanity! (What, it's not possible to be racist against sanity? Apparently it's possible to be racist for voicing one's disagreement with a particular stance on an issue, so considering that, I don't see how my argument is any less valid!)

Seriously though -- if you are one of the minority who are actually buying into this whole bucket of hogwash, please do us all a favor and just. go. away. Personally, racism would be so dead last it's nonexistent on the list of why I think Obama (and his assorted minions) are the most dangerous people in the United States.



We need a poll of US citizens to impeach his ass.

Majority vote gets him kicked out, that means 51% of the people in the USA need to say 'throw him out' and we'll have a new pres.

Its in the constitution, but it was much more practical when we only had a million people in the entire USA instead of the 600million +

Sad thing is probaly 65% would say kick his ass out. It wouldn't pass fast enough to avoid disaster though. and who the hell would take his place if we kicked him out?

Too bad Obama doesn't have Dick Cheney to tell people to stop criticizing the president.


Speaking of which, isn't it funny how quickly Dick's opinions about criticizing presidents changed once he was out of the white house? Guess he takes living up to his name rather seriously. :rofl:

but still, nobody's called him a racist for it.

In addition, it's funny how when Nader made his "uncle tom" remark right after the election, I read tons of remarks from right wingers saying that Nader was a racist... But of course when the racist accusation is applied to somebody a little more right... those same people cry about journalists abusing the term. :lol2:

No racism going on here:
http://i33.tinypic.com/2m7hnkg.gif

What racism :rofl: thats priceless ^

The racism card is flashed so often these days, its becoming nothing more then a reactionary word.



Carter is still the worst president in the last hundred years though Obama is doing his best to displace him.













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The racism card is flashed so often these days, its becoming nothing more then a reactionary word.



Carter is still the worst president in the last hundred years though Obama is doing his best to displace him.
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/1966/obamaimage2.jpg

Yes it is!

My favorite was Nixon...... What?

The 300C he had was on Ebay and the seller wanted a million dollars for it because it was owned by Obama.I would of told the the seller he is smoking something.Obama is a Muslim communist too.I do have two bumper sticks that I am proud owning thsat I bought on Ebay:
I'll keep my money and guns. You keep the change!
I'll keep my guns. You keep the change.


I like guns..

I am looking in to an R700 this winter, its going to be amazing unless PA makes it a pain in the arse to own a gun.. then i'll just buy my friends 308.....

lame ass communists.

Sad thing is probaly 65% would say kick his ass out. It wouldn't pass fast enough to avoid disaster though. and who the hell would take his place if we kicked him out?

more than likely.

Simply put a poor homeless person would be better in office and lead our country more for the people and less for ignorance than obama...

Yes it is!

My favorite was Nixon...... What?

i love nixon.

He scared the shit out of everyone, even us as americans *i wasn't born yet* but from history classes and such I think he could fix our problem.

Lets dig his ass up throw on some skin grafts and a new heart possibly bio mechanical so he'll last a while.

if he saw the shit going on with this bafoon he would be ripping his hair out.

But what's worse than Obama? (as my iPod corrects my spelling of obama...) Biden (o look it corrected that to) and whos worse. Than Biden? Pilosi.... So basicsly. Were screwed

Obama likes to hide crimes committed by blacks against whites like the voter scare tactics in Philly which Obama is trying to hide under the rug.

The Black Panters should be brought to court and then thrown in jail.

Hate crimes are hate crimes even when blacks do it to whites. There should be no protected race. Jews Blacks and Gays should not be the only ones protected. The ahte crimes should be equal and fair for all cultures, races and religions.

Obama likes to hide crimes committed by blacks against whites like the voter scare tactics in Philly which Obama is trying to hide under the rug.
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That's a pretty impressive claim to make.:)

How about a reputable link, source or some evidence to back up this accusation.

That's a pretty impressive claim to make.:)

How about a reputable link, source or some evidence to back up this accusation.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/07/civil-rights-panel-renew-subpoenas-pursue-federal-probe-black-panther-case/

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=37835

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/07/former-doj-attorney-alleges-lawlessness-in-civil-rights-division.html

Adams testified that his superiors had stated that they had little interest in bringing cases against black defendants.


How about the famous beer summit were Barry put his foot in his mouth by condemning the white police officer without knowing the facts. After the bad press he got he held the beer summit to smooth it over. All Barry saw was the color of the skin when he opening his trap. You can google the beer summit for your links.

wow, three articles about the same thing that has nothing to do with Obama apart from the fact that he is President and that in all about everything government related, he is the most superior so therefore can be blamed for everything (but strangely not praised for the "good" things).

then there's a reference to a case when a man was arrested for trying to get into his own home.

good job.

wow, three articles about the same thing that has nothing to do with Obama apart from the fact that he is President and that in all about everything government related, he is the most superior so therefore can be blamed for everything (but strangely not praised for the "good" things).

then there's a reference to a case when a man was arrested for trying to get into his own home.

good job.

Nice argument back. I've done some reading in this forum and I have noticed that posting one link against the liberal doesn't sink into someone's head so I posted several sites. And tell me Obama knew nothing about this.

Now you minimized the beer summit. Yes I said the Beer summit, I didn't say anything about the arrest. Obama made a fool of himself over this incident. Typical Liberal deflect the argument away from the truth.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/07/civil-rights-panel-renew-subpoenas-pursue-federal-probe-black-panther-case/

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=37835

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/07/former-doj-attorney-alleges-lawlessness-in-civil-rights-division.html




How about the famous beer summit were Barry put his foot in his mouth by condemning the white police officer without knowing the facts. After the bad press he got he held the beer summit to smooth it over. All Barry saw was the color of the skin when he opening his trap. You can google the beer summit for your links.

Yea dude none of those have anything at all to do with Obama. If you wana come out against him come out with him having his posse there forge him a birth certificate.

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/07/atlas-exclusive.html

http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2008/08/proof-barack-obama-birth-certificate-is.html

What I don't understand is how the hell he got into the Senate without providing and original full copy of his certificate, hell I can't even play hockey with out mine.

I know about 15 people who hate Obama for the sole reason that he is black.

I know about 15 people who hate Obama for the sole reason that he is black.

You MUST know QUALITY folks.:rolleyes:

You MUST know QUALITY folks.

Hehe sure do, they all even carry loaded guns in the back of their pickups.

uh....ther IS a difference between QUALITY people and RED NECK. (Not that RED NECK is necessarily a negative)

I live in northern Minnesota. Rednecks are rampant.