Nissan Skyline GT-R R35 Concept Photos

Well I think the what Nissan did to the awesome Skyline GTR is just unforgivable. They should have all their collective asses removed!

To take one of the monsters of the east and turn it into some sort of freak just is not on!

I say ship every last one of them to the States or where ever. Even if I were to come into a complete winfall, I would NEVER own a piece of s*it like that! Nissan can stick that whole car right up thier arses and I will be more than happy to draw them a map. :flipa:

The might Nissan Skyline GTR dies when the R34 is out of production. What a shame.

Razorgst, move on, square cars went out years ago. Plain and simple wind won't flow over a box. So if you want a car to perform at high speed you need soft lines.
I like it except for the head lights, I just hope that is the next model of GTR not one somewhere down the road. [look how bad the new shape falcon looked when it was released, but Criag L's one looks mean in silver race trim]

Folks-

I am glad that I am not the only one who thinks the "concept/close to reality concept" that the Infiniti site is peddling with regard to the I35 is not bursting at the seams with Skyline detail. I am comparing it to the New Skyline being sold in Japan now. I thought that the 2 would be close in resemblence (1st cousins). In my opinion, the New Altima looks more like the New Skyline, and I wouldn't be surprised if the New Altima and the New Skyline don't share more than what the PR folks at Nissan in Japan and in the US lead us on to. If they do, then this backs up Nissan's current stance of sharing chassis with a multitude of currently offered N-badged cars. Speaking of the New Altima and sharing chassis, does anyone here know if the New Altima is another name for the New Primera? They are both very very similar, and I've seen enough New Primeras up close to make an armchair call (I just need to see a New Altima in person). The New Altima is a pretty sexy design and is a refreshing change from the mundane look it had previously. With a new next generation power plant that boasts plenty of potential, I see lots of potential here for personal creativity in body and power plant.

Share your thoughts...

Dale
SKR

Teh new Primera/G20 are very likely to be based on the Altima chassis, along with a possible variant of the skyline.

Originally posted by moondog
There is no R35 Skyline - it's called the V35; cos of the V6 engine I guess.

V6 in and of itself is a mistake. The secret of the Skyline's amazing performance has largely been the I6. It's proven that an inline 6 provides a smoother powerband and smoother ride than a V6 ever will. Even one of Nissan's.

The GTR concept is not a Skyline, and won't be even when/if it enters production - it's just retaining the GTR name, not the Skyline name.

Ah, that would explain why it's godawful ugly and retains nothing of the Skyline heritage beyond slapping a GT-R badge on it. Factory rice[1]!

The bit that implies that Nissan will market it in the US isn't the fact that the concept car is LHD - it's the fact that on the Nissan website it talks about widening the market: "Nissan will continue building the GT-R in the 21st Century, providing the ultimate driving pleasure to even more people worldwide. In its next generation Nissan is looking to introducing the GT-R in other markets worldwide."

Yes, very true. But Nissan doesn't directly sell the Skyline in a number of markets currently, including most of Europe AFAIK. The statement can be taken any number of ways - which is what Nissan presumably wants. Let the consumers create the hype machine.. whichever country is loudest, gets it first. Personally, I'd rather not see this one in the states. I'd much rather shell out the $100k for a true R34 GT-R, imported, and converted to LHD and road legal status. I'm still waiting on actually SEEING the new Fairlady before I pass judgement on it, but I have a feeling it's not going to be a real Z.. it's got the look, sort-of (the front end is just all wrong, where did they think that stupid look up? Smashing a '93 Z TT into a brick wall?) and the engine, maybe. The thing that has ALWAYS made the Z the Z for me has been turbo. I don't care if it's one or two or intercooled or not. Gotta be turbo. If the Z comes over in turbo, I'm going to be putting my money down before they even start shipping. If not, well, we'll see.

It just kind of feels like Nissan's losing direction here, these days. Sure, the new Xterra supercharged monster is nice. And so's the R34. And I'm definitely liking the new Altima (except for the taillights, of course). But to kill off their crown jewel to replace it with.. this mockery? And to reintroduce the Z at the same time? I don't know. I'm not that heavily involved in it, admittedly, but I just don't like the whole scheme of things overall. :(

Darren one of the things that set the GTR apart was it's aggressive looks combined with huge performance.
You can wack a 1000 hp motor into a shit box and it is still a shit box. Just one with power.

The point is there is over kill and the R35 is it! Nissan has killed the base skyline as we know it. The R33's were a backwards move. Sales proved it. The R34 is still high priced but they are moving as well as the R33's did with that higher price tag.

The R35 looks too EURO mate, not Japanese. The GTR was not built on a platform for out right top speed. If it had been it would have had a shape like a Lambo etc. This is a 4wd monster. Look at Porche. The basic shape still is there from nearly 20 years ago, yet is as popular as ever. Why? Because German engineering knows a winner when they see it.
There needs to make improvements. Every auto manufacturer knows this and does it, but when the bean counters coming into the picture great cars die. We shall see. My bet is the R35 GTR will flop horrificly except over sea's, there it may only be marginally successful.

Razor correct me if I'm wrong. But every new model of skyline has out performed the model before, on the track. The so called aggressive looking R32 had a weak chassis compaired to the R33 and the R34 is better than the R33. You can bet Nissan aren't going to release an R35 GTR until it is a better car than an R34. People need to move out of the past and on with the future. An R32 ain't going to look to good as a vintage even if it does still run.(unless you keep it in a dehumidifed box). I'm putting off buying an R34 and waiting for the R35 to be released and you can bet there are many other people doing the same. Mind you by the time it comes out I could have warn out a R34.

Darren;

You're absolutely correct. The R33 to R34 change was almost all chassis and mechanicals. Which is what I want in the R35.. Nissan needs to focus more on the chassis. They're so near perfection it's almost scary. I think if they put a little more money into the R34 chassis, they can make perfection. THEN they can focus on the body. KEEP the chassis and mechanicals, make them perfect, THEN change the body.

Ah screw it. Throw the Skyline gear in the 300ZX, ship it to the US, and I'll shut up for a few years. :D

I beg to differ with the R33's chassis being better than the 32's. It's widely known that the Skyline had better getting 'hefty' over the years, and Nissan finally took care of that business with the R34, balancing and lightening the chassis since the sloppy R33. However, this is not to say the R33 was any worse than the R32; advances were made in other ways. I too, must agree however, that there's nothing to fear about the next GT-R. All in all, the progression of Nissan's flagship grand tourer lineage has never failed us, and we should actually be expecting something worthy of the GT-R placard.

On a side note, SCC has stated that an upcoming Infiniti GT-R will be known as "X35". Are there any other confirmations out there? Not a bad name, if you ask me...

Originally posted by Morpheus XIII
I beg to differ with the R33's chassis being better than the 32's. It's widely known that the Skyline had better getting 'hefty' over the years, and Nissan finally took care of that business with the R34, balancing and lightening the chassis since the sloppy R33.

hmmm...the R34 is even heavier than the R33 :D So I don't think Nissan can have lightened it :p

The car may be heavier as a whole, but several areas of the R34 chassis has been put on diet in order to balance the weight and make it more manageable.

The same thing happened between the S14 and S15. Chassis development.

Morpheus hit the nail on the head - balance is key. The R33 to R34 changes were a lot of balance and rigidity changes. If you've got a car that's 70/30 weight ratio, f/r, it's going to suck at handling. Perfection is 50/50. IIRC, the R34 is at 52/48 or 55/45 - very nice numbers to have. There aren't many - if any - cars that can claim that kind of balance for the pricetag of a Skyline.

Darren

Whay the fuck would you even think of buying an ugly piece of shit as the GTR concept car?

Surely you have better taste than that. The original drawings that were sent around of the R35 are of a far better looking car. Why would they change to a fucked up audi,beetle,vomit combo?

WHAT WERE THEY THINKING???????:alien2:

this is much better

oppps that didn't work

here goes

I'll buy which everone comes out. Hopefully the concept car comes out with R34 or normal looking headlights. It's performance that will convince me more than the look. Someone will come out with a cool body kit for it.

i was wondering how much hp and torque do u think this sucker has ?

fair answer. I'm glad to hear your opinion of those headlights:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

About that old photo tazdev posted previously and seen elsewhere in the Skyline forum:

At first, I thought that looked far better than the current concept design, but now that I think about it (plus had some more time for the new shape to soak in) I would rather spend $40-50,000 of my money on a car with a cutting edge image. I don't know about you guys, but new stuff always seems to settle in with me after a while; you don't really want a car that looks like it was drawn up during the '90s... especially not with all the new flashy designs popping up from every automaker. But that's just me. The concept feels like you're getting some fancy italian design (focus on the unusual body lines and the Ferrari-esque rear end), with brute german power and handling (possible 6-cylinder twin turbo +AWD, like a Porsche), for the price and quality of a japanese car. Not a bad deal, if you ask me. Yeah the headlights are kind of funk, but hey, at least they are trying something new in those design studios, rather than bringing up the same crap over and over again.

Its highly likely the concept didn't have an engine at all. It would probably be 350hp or so (in real world numbers, not the 280 that is the limit in Japan. For now:devil: )

Holy shit!! The car is a work of art! I really like the new front (very cutting edge, with reflections of the new Z visible in the fascia as well), and I LOVE the rest of the car (back end perhaps a little too reminiscient of Ferrari styling, but beautiful).

I think I'm moving to Japan... ;) (I say this in spite of Nissan's stated intentions to release this car to world-wide markets, because traditionally the best versions of Japanese sports cars stay in Japan.)

i was under the impression that the R35 concepts that I have on my website were the closest to what will really be:

Here (http://www.geocities.com/the_vtec_boi)

God what did Nissan do to the Skyline... they should of kept the R34.... that was tyte.. well that's my opinion, the R35 concept car is ugly...

Nissan Japan has already announced the R35 GT-R will be hitting American shores. It will be released in 2003-2004 as the Infiniti X35... NOT to be confused with the G35 whih is replacing the G20, and is the sedan version of the R35 chassis.


the concept photos, as introduced at Tokyo Auto Salon 2001, are not of a real car shape... it was all computer generated, and was presented on video only at the show.


Nissan will be using the Fairlady/350Z platform as a base for the new GT-R, hence many body shape similarities. Nissan will also be introducing an all new powerplant for the GT-R, a naturally aspirated V8 based LOOSELY on the venerable VG30DE platform but with more displacement and horsepower. This will replace the RB26DETT powerplant that will have been in production with very little change since 1989.


As you may already know, the sedan and GT-R have been separated now... the "Skyline" going back to it's roots as a midsize sports sedan, and the "GT-R" high performance flagship.

Perhaps you should watch the video, the car is very real

Official information from Nissan. The Engine of this car will provide 502bhp. It will use a hybird Inline-6engine on some models and a hybird V8 on other models. estimated accel. 0-60 in 3.7 secs. top speed 175mph? Can anyone say bye-bye Mr. Viper?:smoka: :smoka:

Nice web site, a great collection of photos. I really dig that shot of the two RSX Type Rs. I guess the US market has to wait at least another year for the acclaimed Type R.. too bad :(

Back to the Skyline, I have heard that Nissan has big visual changes in mind for the car before it debuts here, so I wouldn’t be surprised if it looks a lot more like the prototype shots that Igor first posted.

502 is all well and good for a CONCEPT , but the real one should be 400 or so (I take back my earlier 350).

And lets take a quick look at the current GT-R:
4000lbs, aerodynamics of a brick, 280 (more like 380)hp. And it is awesome.

So imagine what it will be like with the new ones!!


Also, World of Wheels has said that the new generation will have the Skyline be a sports sedan, and the GT-R be the flagship. This relates to the NA market. Which is good, we get a BMW and Viper killer all at once!:D

what's the main issue that needs to be improved on the current skyline, besides LHD and styling?

i'm curious what you all want to see improved.

This is a foolish response, but for the US market, we need to be able to get it without having to pay to have one imported!!! I think that any iteration of the Skyline/GTR that hits our shores will be welcomed, even if it does happen to weigh 2 tons and have the aerodynamics of a brick ;)

I think this one is an older image. but grrr! hmm time to start saving pennies. ;)

:huh: WEIRD!! Hide the headlights in the above (and the badging on the grille), and it looks very much to me like an Acura RSX.

If the Skyline does get the V-8 it could be a very good thing. I've had the extream pleasure of working on the racing engine from which it would be derived. It should pack quite a punch, big torque and nice high end pull.:frog: Just hope the car retains all wheel drive.

can you name this car?

:hehe: Is this a trick question sir?? :hehe:

:D :D :D :D
no i just want to ask you what kind of GTRs this pic i think it will be R35
:D :D :D :D

old pics. old news. all wrong.

Those last two pics are photoshopped things, not real cars or concepts. I dunno where the yellow one comes from, but the 2nd one is a photoshopped R34, as far as I can make out.

The V35 Skyline is being sold now in Japan (if anybody's actually buying the ugly pos) - check www.nissan.co.jp The GTR is a concept car at this stage. It's not a Skyline any more. and there are pictures of it on www.nissan.co.jp too.

for some reason i'd rather import the car from japan... i mean come on!! infiniti?! the hell?! and on top of that X35!? wtf is on with that ?! if i want 2 buy a skyline i want to see the skyline badge on the car with a nissan emblem, not some infiniti X35....also i'm not feelin the naturally aspirated engine...turbo seems like it was made for the skyline...America always seems to hold out on us and when we finally get the car that we diserve, it gets turned into some watered down thingy that doesn't diserve the title of Skyline GT-R....watch them get rid of the all wheel drive and make it so that you can only buy it in automatic.... that's why i'd rather go 2 motorex and buy an R32- R34 or something that's the definition of skyline....kind of like godzilla.... the first godzillas were good, then when they remade it it sucked and everybody wanted the old godzilla back i mean the high end horsepower for the car is great but you can also do that with the skylines that we have now...hopefully i'll be able to buy one before it gets too late:mad:

dissapointing :( i don't like it.... especially the front :apuke:

gimme an R34 GT-R over that anyday

no the special skyline that holds dear to my heart is the R-32 Skyline GT-R the color you ask? Gun Gray Metallic- the true color of a Nissan Skyline...even have the rims in the same color..that's tight
:cool: :coolguy: :sun: :cyclops:

ooh! me too!:silly2:

Yeah the Front Grill is all Wrong not nearly as aggresive as the R34's and the head lights need to be horizontal not vertical forget all that parts bin bullshit with the new Z car. I just hope they fix that front end before they bring it here.......ahhh but u know what in the end id still buy one :)

Originally posted by PART
...forget all that parts bin bullshit with the new Z car...

If it weren't for the parts bin strategy, there wouldn't be a Nissan right now. The company was ready to fold its hand until Renault and Carlos Ghosn came to the rescue. Ghosn called for immediate reduction of personnel and equipment, including a reduction in the number of available platforms. That's where the XVL 'universal' concept came from, which led to the Skyline GT/G35, new Z, new Altima, new Stagea, and the new GT-R. Without this move, there would be no Nissan, and therefore, no GT-R.

:eek2: that is the ugliest piece of garbage Nissan has ever produced! I'm not kidding! Be it still in concept it's the ugliest thing Nissan has ever released!

even uglier than the cube?! you gotta be kiddin me:eek:

Originally posted by NIF
If the Skyline does get the V-8 it could be a very good thing. I've had the extream pleasure of working on the racing engine from which it would be derived. It should pack quite a punch, big torque and nice high end pull.:frog: Just hope the car retains all wheel drive.

I donno if its all rubbish, but I've heard talk the the V8 is a no-go for the new infinity thingy (I can't bring myself to call it a skyline). Correct me if I'm wrong, thats just what I've heard.

I know the V8 was rumored, but that's about it: rumor. Remember the endless string of rumors of bullshit info going around about the new Integra before it finally came to light? Same deal. They will talk a big game about this and that until finally (and I'll add here "thankfully") the Skyline is introduced here in the States.

The Skyline is already coming to the US. The Infiniti G35 is the new V35 Skyline - non-turbo V6 engines and all. :(

The new GTR will not be a Skyline, it's just going to be "GTR".

that's so messed up man...if i ever buy one of those things, i'm gonna friggin buy some skyline badges and place it on the car like an R-34 or something...at least make it look decent..

:huh: :huh: :huh: :huh: :huh: :huh: :huh: :huh: :huh: :huh: ......dude that screams porsche not skyline

so heres the deal-
we all buy the new sentra se-r's (since they are really startin to look like the r33's and r34's)
then we tweak the hell out of the engine and put a gtr plate over the nissan symbol :evillaugh:

I have read that the price will be 50k+ do you guys think it will be sold under the Infinity label in America because of America's perception that Infinity is a more prestigious brand?

Sadly :( I'm so flattered that the rest of the world thinks we're so shallow.

i like how R35 has shorter front hood..

it pushes the front wheel closer to the bumber to provide a weight ratio closer to the 50/50

we should expect that R35 should handle better and provide a higher potential of handling better

if it looks like that, who cares if comes here! r33,r34 all the way

Bah, fuck infinity. I like it, but it's not what I'm looking for in a car. I'm looking for a S K Y L I N E. It's fine and well for what it is, but unfortinatly it is now a sporty, performance coupe, once agian we've nutered a perfictly good sportscar. Now I don't want to diss it to much, its a great looking car and I'm sure it will be mucho fun to drive, but it's just not what I want.

:wave: I'll be in NZ this time next year hopefuly with an R32 GTR if I can get a loan before I go, or mby a GTSt, depending on my financial situation.

Originally posted by 96SEChick
lmao Gonthrax. I know the feeling---I'm in Tulsa, OK. I'd have a bunch of hicks w/ their glasspacks in their 1970 Ford Pickups trying to rev at me!
My Dad lives in Tulsa... He drives a 94' NSX (hardly a pick up) And rest assured, he and his cohorts (about 8 other NSX owners in the Tulsa area) know exactly what a Skyline is.... :)


As this is my first post to this forum, I would like to throw out some big admiration for R35, and the Skyline model shown here. I also am impressed by the level of technical knowledge demonstrated on this thread, and look forward to learning from all of you in the future. Those photoshops (revised headlamps first page) are incredible.

As for the new R35 GT-R... I am in love with it just as it is. I don't need a badge to know it is a Skyline, it has all the traits. I will have one if they arrive stateside (even if I have to wait awhile and accumulate the neccessary $$$)

Phil

so uglyness and a v-6 are skyline traits? dumbass.

Originally posted by diegoaccord
so uglyness and a v-6 are skyline traits? dumbass.

LMFAO :)
Beauty is in the Eye of the beholder, and I find this to be beautiful.

http://www.automotiveforums.com/img/gtr/6.jpg
http://www.automotiveforums.com/img/gtr/7.jpg
http://www.automotiveforums.com/img/gtr/8.jpg
http://www.automotiveforums.com/img/gtr/9.jpg
http://www.automotiveforums.com/img/gtr/3.jpg
http://www.automotiveforums.com/img/gtr/4.jpg
http://www.automotiveforums.com/img/gtr/5.jpg
I reserve comment on the 4-door piece that will be called "Skyline", but I desire a GTR.

The traits I posted on were
1. Round Tailights
2. All Wheel Drive
3. undeniable recognition (The thing stands out, and it is growing on me, I think it has a mechanical beauty)
4. uncompromised performance goals (V8, V6 who gives a shit as long as it smokes my Asshole neighbors Corvette)

I like the GTR concept because it stands out, it isn't a cookie cutter car that you might see a dozen of on your way to work. I will be interested to see how the production version looks. If it loses it's individuality, I may go back to NSX shopping.

You don't have to agree, just stay out of the fast lane! :)

Phil