Tamiya Sauber-Mercedes C9
SuperMele
06-14-2009, 07:47 AM
Started this build for a groupbuild on another forum...
Introduction:
Box:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010184~0.JPG
Parts:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010185.JPG
Decals and instructions:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010187~0.JPG
Pe from the box and matched paint:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010188~0.JPG
Some progress:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010191.JPG
Mutch better:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010204~0.JPG
First this :nono::
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010193~0.JPG
In to this (needs some cleaning up):
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010194~0.JPG
Rims done:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010198~0.JPG
Primed and taped:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010205.JPG
Black:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010206~0.JPG
Tape off:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010207.JPG
Tape back on:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010208~0.JPG
Mix from yellow and smoke:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010209~0.JPG
Tape off:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010210.JPG
Some weathering:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010213.JPG
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010212~0.JPG
And thats it for now...
Greetings
Introduction:
Box:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010184~0.JPG
Parts:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010185.JPG
Decals and instructions:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010187~0.JPG
Pe from the box and matched paint:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010188~0.JPG
Some progress:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010191.JPG
Mutch better:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010204~0.JPG
First this :nono::
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010193~0.JPG
In to this (needs some cleaning up):
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010194~0.JPG
Rims done:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010198~0.JPG
Primed and taped:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010205.JPG
Black:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010206~0.JPG
Tape off:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010207.JPG
Tape back on:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010208~0.JPG
Mix from yellow and smoke:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010209~0.JPG
Tape off:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010210.JPG
Some weathering:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010213.JPG
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010212~0.JPG
And thats it for now...
Greetings
TRBJ
06-14-2009, 10:16 AM
ths for the smoke+yellow tip!!!
Outamyhead
06-17-2009, 03:30 PM
Nice work so far, I managed to pick up the very same model about a month ago, it might be the next build after my Mazda 787 get's finished off. Never built a model with PE yet, anything I should be aware of or any tools like an angle bender needed at all?
gasdriverca
06-17-2009, 06:54 PM
Is the mix of smoke and yellow suppose to be kevlar? if so nice one !
SuperMele
06-18-2009, 01:21 PM
Never built a model with PE yet, anything I should be aware of or any tools like an angle bender needed at all?
Hey outamyhead, first time i use pe also :uhoh: You need to bend some parts, like 1 and 2 from the pe set, they have to be in the same shape as the front wheel arches... Havent done that yet :smile: Only bended one thing and thats the front towhook, needs to be an 90° angle but you can easily do that with tweezers...
Is the mix of smoke and yellow suppose to be kevlar?
I think so, i just mixed the paint with tamiya's instructions.
Greetz
Hey outamyhead, first time i use pe also :uhoh: You need to bend some parts, like 1 and 2 from the pe set, they have to be in the same shape as the front wheel arches... Havent done that yet :smile: Only bended one thing and thats the front towhook, needs to be an 90° angle but you can easily do that with tweezers...
Is the mix of smoke and yellow suppose to be kevlar?
I think so, i just mixed the paint with tamiya's instructions.
Greetz
rollover
06-18-2009, 04:08 PM
It looks like your off to a good start. I like your detailing so far on the engine and bulkhead.
lemansnut
06-18-2009, 07:17 PM
Nice start so far. Tamiya has had a couple different mixes to try to simulate the kevlar, I think they use the same mix on the Mazda 787B. You should check some reference pictures for the rear crossmember though, it should not be opened up as you have done but webbed as the part is supplied. Keep going, it's a really nice kit. Looking forward to more progress.
Mike
Mike
SuperMele
06-21-2009, 12:40 PM
Update time...
Pe in place:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010225~0.JPG
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010227.JPG
Primer:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010228~0.JPG
Sauber blue:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010230.JPG
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010232.JPG
Thin coats of clear added to help give the decals a smoother surface to attach on.
Many houres later with a painfull back of constantly bending forward :evillol: :
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010233.JPG
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010234.JPG
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010235~0.JPG
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010236.JPG
Engine primed:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010237.JPG
And thats it again...
Greetings
Pe in place:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010225~0.JPG
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010227.JPG
Primer:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010228~0.JPG
Sauber blue:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010230.JPG
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010232.JPG
Thin coats of clear added to help give the decals a smoother surface to attach on.
Many houres later with a painfull back of constantly bending forward :evillol: :
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010233.JPG
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010234.JPG
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010235~0.JPG
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010236.JPG
Engine primed:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010237.JPG
And thats it again...
Greetings
klutz_100
06-21-2009, 01:09 PM
Looks super! :thumbsup:
Almost makes me want to break out my Revel kit LOL
Almost makes me want to break out my Revel kit LOL
Sebastian.
06-21-2009, 01:45 PM
You have forgotten, that the forward part should be a single whole! You have not cleaned a crack where details are joined!!
http://s39.radikal.ru/i086/0906/ef/ebcff1bb7d42.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
:)
http://s39.radikal.ru/i086/0906/ef/ebcff1bb7d42.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
:)
SuperMele
06-21-2009, 02:07 PM
You have forgotten, that the forward part should be a single whole! You have not cleaned a crack where details are joined!!
On the boxart you can clearly see the pannelline of the 2 pieces...
I dont really build my models 100% like in real life and spend time first on searching the web to see if its really intended to be build as tamiya says.:)
On the boxart you can clearly see the pannelline of the 2 pieces...
I dont really build my models 100% like in real life and spend time first on searching the web to see if its really intended to be build as tamiya says.:)
guiwee
06-21-2009, 04:23 PM
I dont understand why the p/e covers those vents..I mean why have vents at all if
their gonna be covered up?This kit reminds me of my 956
their gonna be covered up?This kit reminds me of my 956
Modelerone
06-21-2009, 04:30 PM
I dont understand why the p/e covers those vents..I mean why have vents at all if
their gonna be covered up?This kit reminds me of my 956
The vents might be open or covered depending on track and race variables. Open for a track with a lot of braking or very high temps to help cool the brakes or closed for better aerodynamics if additional cooling is not required.
their gonna be covered up?This kit reminds me of my 956
The vents might be open or covered depending on track and race variables. Open for a track with a lot of braking or very high temps to help cool the brakes or closed for better aerodynamics if additional cooling is not required.
jano11
06-21-2009, 05:09 PM
Looks super! :thumbsup:
Almost makes me want to break out my Revel kit LOL
A good kit that one, because it's actually a Hasegawa! ;)
Almost makes me want to break out my Revel kit LOL
A good kit that one, because it's actually a Hasegawa! ;)
rollover
06-21-2009, 06:12 PM
Good job on the decals, they have always scared me away from this kit. Too many right angles and parrallel lines.
What color did you use on the wheels?
What color did you use on the wheels?
mulsannemike
06-21-2009, 08:37 PM
I dont understand why the p/e covers those vents..I mean why have vents at all if
their gonna be covered up?This kit reminds me of my 956
The vents, or louvers, are a means to adjust front aerodynamic balance. At a track like Le Mans, minimal drag is the desire. So the short chord single element rear wing, short front splitter are used to achieve that minimal drag figure. Therefore the front louvers aren't necessary as they would shift too much downforce forward (making the car condition towards oversteer) and would contribute to increasing drag.
their gonna be covered up?This kit reminds me of my 956
The vents, or louvers, are a means to adjust front aerodynamic balance. At a track like Le Mans, minimal drag is the desire. So the short chord single element rear wing, short front splitter are used to achieve that minimal drag figure. Therefore the front louvers aren't necessary as they would shift too much downforce forward (making the car condition towards oversteer) and would contribute to increasing drag.
nakadds
06-21-2009, 09:00 PM
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010194~0.JPG
Is this part (B1) suppose to have the openings? My reference pictures for this part(including the box art for the silver C9) show it to be a solid piece. Or are you going to do something to close up the openings?
Is this part (B1) suppose to have the openings? My reference pictures for this part(including the box art for the silver C9) show it to be a solid piece. Or are you going to do something to close up the openings?
mulsannemike
06-21-2009, 09:10 PM
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010194%7E0.JPG
Is this part (B1) suppose to have the openings? My reference pictures for this part(including the box art for the silver C9) show it to be a solid piece. Or are you going to do something to close up the openings?
That frame can just be seen in the shot below just aft of the engine. It's a machined aluminum frame and the pockets are solid only being thinned (you can see the machining marks), not through-holed.
http://www.gurneyflap.com/Resources/DSC_5462%201.jpg
Is this part (B1) suppose to have the openings? My reference pictures for this part(including the box art for the silver C9) show it to be a solid piece. Or are you going to do something to close up the openings?
That frame can just be seen in the shot below just aft of the engine. It's a machined aluminum frame and the pockets are solid only being thinned (you can see the machining marks), not through-holed.
http://www.gurneyflap.com/Resources/DSC_5462%201.jpg
SuperMele
06-22-2009, 10:47 AM
What color did you use on the wheels?
Hey, its just gun metal...
Hey, its just gun metal...
SuperMele
06-22-2009, 10:49 AM
Is this part (B1) suppose to have the openings? My reference pictures for this part(including the box art for the silver C9) show it to be a solid piece. Or are you going to do something to close up the openings?
Hey, i'm not a reference builder... I opened the part because there are a lot of sink marks, and i think it just looks better...
Hey, i'm not a reference builder... I opened the part because there are a lot of sink marks, and i think it just looks better...
nakadds
06-22-2009, 11:28 AM
Hey, i'm not a reference builder... I opened the part because there are a lot of sink marks, and i think it just looks better...
That's cool. I'm currently working on this car myself and was going to open it up until I looked more closely at the pics. It's actually kinda strange that it is a solid piece, you'd think the holes would be there on the real car to save weight. Great job so far, hope mine looks half as good.
That's cool. I'm currently working on this car myself and was going to open it up until I looked more closely at the pics. It's actually kinda strange that it is a solid piece, you'd think the holes would be there on the real car to save weight. Great job so far, hope mine looks half as good.
SuperMele
06-22-2009, 12:36 PM
Small update:
Parts in alclad:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010241~0.JPG
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010247~0.JPG
Engine got color:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010244~0.JPG
What could we do with this, more in the next update :):
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010248.JPG
Cockpit has color:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010249~0.JPG
Enginebay started:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010250.JPG
Everything needs further detailing, washes and drybrushes...
Greetz
Parts in alclad:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010241~0.JPG
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010247~0.JPG
Engine got color:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010244~0.JPG
What could we do with this, more in the next update :):
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010248.JPG
Cockpit has color:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010249~0.JPG
Enginebay started:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010250.JPG
Everything needs further detailing, washes and drybrushes...
Greetz
Rocat
06-22-2009, 02:24 PM
very nice progress!
godfather23
06-22-2009, 04:02 PM
How hard where these decals to apply. To me it looks like it was kind of okay. Not too many round curves the decals needed to snuggle onto?
The decal job looks very good as I canīt see any lines which donīt align correctly.
Keep it up.
Robert
The decal job looks very good as I canīt see any lines which donīt align correctly.
Keep it up.
Robert
SuperMele
06-23-2009, 11:33 AM
How hard where these decals to apply.
Hey, they are easy to apply, its just big decals with clear decal in between. So the lines are always parallel. And because the car hasnt got hard bends, i consider it an easy decaljob.
And you know before i started the kit i thought it was going to be a hard job of placing the decals :evillol:
Greetz
Hey, they are easy to apply, its just big decals with clear decal in between. So the lines are always parallel. And because the car hasnt got hard bends, i consider it an easy decaljob.
And you know before i started the kit i thought it was going to be a hard job of placing the decals :evillol:
Greetz
Outamyhead
06-24-2009, 02:54 PM
Hey, they are easy to apply, its just big decals with clear decal in between. So the lines are always parallel. And because the car hasnt got hard bends, i consider it an easy decaljob.
And you know before i started the kit i thought it was going to be a hard job of placing the decals :evillol:
Greetz
I'm more worried about the photo etch stuff than decals, haven't got any tools for that besides pliers, and I'm working on saving up for a half decent airbrush system.
Got to finish the Mazda before that though.
And you know before i started the kit i thought it was going to be a hard job of placing the decals :evillol:
Greetz
I'm more worried about the photo etch stuff than decals, haven't got any tools for that besides pliers, and I'm working on saving up for a half decent airbrush system.
Got to finish the Mazda before that though.
SuperMele
06-27-2009, 04:29 AM
Clear is on, 2K from zero.
Tomorrow its polishing time :runaround:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010274~0.JPG
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010265.JPG
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010268~0.JPG
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010263.JPG
Together:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010271~0.JPG
Greetz
Tomorrow its polishing time :runaround:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010274~0.JPG
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010265.JPG
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010268~0.JPG
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010263.JPG
Together:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010271~0.JPG
Greetz
SuperMele
06-28-2009, 11:14 AM
And another step close...
I'll let the pics do the talking:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010294~0.JPG
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010295~0.JPG
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010296~0.JPG
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010299.JPG
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010300.JPG
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010301.JPG
Greetz
I'll let the pics do the talking:
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010294~0.JPG
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010295~0.JPG
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010296~0.JPG
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010299.JPG
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010300.JPG
http://albums.modelbrouwers.nl/coppermine/albums/userpics/11363/P1010301.JPG
Greetz
rollover
06-28-2009, 01:44 PM
Great looking chassis. You did a very good job on the shading.
Shunter
06-28-2009, 05:40 PM
I like it, great looking work so far....
Outamyhead
06-29-2009, 03:39 PM
Really inspiring stuff for when I get to this build, looks great.
SuperMele
07-05-2009, 02:46 PM
Its finished... pics here: http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=958043
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