Quarter Mile Times???

Wus up guys! I have a question for ya'll. If I'm right, the stock QT mile time for a GXE is 15.7. At the track on Sat. I ran 16.2!!:( . I was kinda dissapointed butI beat a suped up Honda Civic though:cool: . What can I do to better my Quarter mile runs?

lauch at the start a lil better. get some mods. the weather can affect how u run too.

Yea your probably right cause it had just rained and they dried off the track but it was still a little wet. I have exhaust comin in so I'm goin back at the next show to see. Hopefully it won't rain and i'll see better results. Thanks for the info 97vw

Actually, and just a thought for you, a touch of water I hear can help you get off the line better. Of course, i dont mean water on the whole track like after it rains, but if I understand right, it helps with the traction on git-up-n-go.

I'll research into this more..

has anyone else heard something like that, or does it just sound crazy?

i kno that goin thru the water so you can attempt a small burnout to get the tires clean and a lil warm helps. im not sure bout jus havin the tires wet tho

I think it would help a lot if you told us which generation of max you have. if it is auto or stick would also help too.

i was thinkin an auto cuz of the 1/4 mile times. stick is a lil faster than that i think.

Originally posted by 97wvmax
i kno that goin thru the water so you can attempt a small burnout to get the tires clean and a lil warm helps. im not sure bout jus havin the tires wet tho

I'm talking about the tires, exactly... the guy that explained it to me would splash a bit of water infront of his car at the line, and that's where the traction would come in, you know?

Id totally avoid the water if I were you. Our cars dont need to go through the water. Just burn them off on the tarmac.

I have a 95 Max( 4th Gen). It is an Automatic. I did burnout before i raced to heat up the tires. I guess i just have to work on my launches and I will experiment the water thing and see if it actually works. Thanks for the replies.

Always happy to help. let me knows how it works...

Gotta quick question for you guys. Is it better to power brake when wanting to race or just gun that biotch. I normally just gun it but if power braking is better for takeoff, How do you do it?

you just hold down the brake while revving the gas. it's hell on your tranny, pads, and rotors. i used to do it in my moms 98 taurus. (pos)

i do just a lil bit, lil rev it to like 2k rpm. it makes the tires spin a lil sometimes tho, but it does seem to help

It seems that would mess some shit up though. Is that safe on the Max. It seems that too much of that would do damage

Yeah, I've been curious about the power breaking too, wouldnt that screw stuff up? I'd hate to blow out my tranny tryin to bust ass in a race. Dont think that'd look to cool.

i dont think that sittin there at 750 rpms then flooring it in a race would do too much good either. if ya race, ur jus takin a chance with ur tranny each time.

Ahhh, yes, good point.

yeah, flooring it is never great for the car, but brake torquing is way waorse, by far.

Heh, I just need to get a 5-speed, already.

i wish i could find a 5 speed that i could get for strait up trade

How sweet would that be.

I just need to get another car, so I can go for the 5speed conversion.

With constant flooring? How long would you think it would take for your tranny to go out? Another question.... When you get your tranny rebuilt or "fixed". Does that completely fix your tranny or is your Max basically screwed when you blow it. Can A tranny ever be completely fixed is what i'm trying to ask?

i would think if somethin actually breaks it would fix that, but the tranny will be worn no matter wat. i think that a rebuild is like an engine rebuild which jus replaces the seals and stuff like that. so the metal parts will be worn, unless u jus get a new one. im sure theres stuff that you can do to make it last longer tho.

Originally posted by GEESHACK
Wus up guys! I have a question for ya'll. If I'm right, the stock QT mile time for a GXE is 15.7. At the track on Sat. I ran 16.2!!:( . I was kinda dissapointed butI beat a suped up Honda Civic though:cool: . What can I do to better my Quarter mile runs?

Not saying you don't already know these things but make sure before you race you:

only have a 1/4 tank or less in gas
remove the donut in your trunk
remove any other weight adding device
ensure that your car engine is not running hard prior to the race
lower the tire pressure slightly on the front wheels
torque brake at about 1500 if you have an auto
launch at less than 1800 on a stick, otherwise too much wheel spin
try to get stiffer springs, better traction
empty your windshield washer fluid from bottle
use a lightweight battery, dynobatt works for short runs
add an intake, lightweight UDP and a Y-pipe
if you have an auto get the VB mod done

I think you'll run better times this way, 15.2 is about the average for a GXE but you could probably trap higher speeds doing those things I mentioned.

I would probably be even more with the bolt ons, Y,UDP, etc.

Adding the

What is the VB mod???

its Valve Body. in an auto, when u shift gears, u have that lil bit of time in between shifts. the VB mod takes out that lil stall in between the gears changing. ive heard it is supposed to make ur tranny last longer too.

this mod will take about .4 + or - off ur 1/4 mile time

Originally posted by Spaz
Yeah, I've been curious about the power breaking too, wouldnt that screw stuff up? I'd hate to blow out my tranny tryin to bust ass in a race. Dont think that'd look to cool.

Torquebraking isn't good for your autotranny but you can get away with it for a little while especially if you are in a race. For the little bit of time you'll be running up and down the track and given the time it'll take for your auto to cool between races, I say you should be fine.

I torque brake often and my tranny is running strong with over 75k miles on it and no probs. I would say if you do torquebrake try not to wind your tach over 2500 at any time, to be safer only tqbrk at around 1700 rpm.

I don't recommend doing a lot of tqbrkng because eventually you'll tear up your auto.
The VB mod does help strengthen your tranny overall and it will shift faster and last longer as a result of the modification.

They also make what is called a torque converter which helps "allow the amount of power that you have to be transfered safely from the car to the wheels," as quoted from maximadriver.com. If I didnt plan on doing the 5spd conversion, when certain factors allow me to, this would be one of the first things I'd plan on getting for my max. Sounds like a good idea and a good preventative maintainance piece.

Originally posted by Spaz
They also make what is called a torque converter which helps "allow the amount of power that you have to be transfered safely from the car to the wheels," as quoted from maximadriver.com. If I didnt plan on doing the 5spd conversion, when certain factors allow me to, this would be one of the first things I'd plan on getting for my max. Sounds like a good idea and a good preventative maintainance piece.

Every auto tranny comes from the factory with a torque converter, this isn't exactly a mod that you can be to help increase your performance, in all actuality the tc (torqueconverter) is one of the many blames for an autos poor shifting performance.

Because those plates have to mesh in synchronicity in order to hunt or find the right gear to select for the engine speed that your car is at based on your throttle position, it takes time to get it right and this is why the auto tends to shift slow and some of the power from your engine is eaten up in between that time it takes for the tc to send those ponies to the wheels. Basically it is a conversion of flywheel hp to real wheel hp, that is where the parasitic loss comes in.

:D good running guys. i gotta go to the track m yself and see how i do. laughing perfectly takes time in what i hear.:smoka:

Originally posted by ZeRo-MaX
What is the VB mod???

Where can I get the VB mod done at? Does anyone have a number or website or something? I must get that mod as well.

yeah i agree.
I need that mod done also, would really help...

go to maximadriver.com and click on the how to section and look for don's vb mod in the performance column.

Originally posted by maximafever
go to maximadriver.com and click on the how to section and look for don's vb mod in the performance column.

Oh yea, thanks

Originally posted by bk2kmax


Every auto tranny comes from the factory with a torque converter, this isn't exactly a mod that you can be to help increase your performance, in all actuality the tc (torqueconverter) is one of the many blames for an autos poor shifting performance.

Because those plates have to mesh in synchronicity in order to hunt or find the right gear to select for the engine speed that your car is at based on your throttle position, it takes time to get it right and this is why the auto tends to shift slow and some of the power from your engine is eaten up in between that time it takes for the tc to send those ponies to the wheels. Basically it is a conversion of flywheel hp to real wheel hp, that is where the parasitic loss comes in.

Thanks for clearing that up for me... so, bottom line, it's not so much of a performance mod, but a tranny longevity mod.

Thanks for clearing that up for me... so, bottom line, it's not so much of a performance mod, but a tranny longevity mod.<quote from Spaz

If you are referring to the TC it isn't a mod at all, the VB is a mod, in a sense that it actually helps speed up the shift time in between gear changes in your autotranny.

Look to get the VB mod done, the TC in the auto Max's in 2k/2k1 was geared more for the luxury feel of the Max and not really aimed at being an all out blazing speed performer.

If you look at the 96 Max it can accelerate in the mid to low 6's whereas the 2k/2k1 accelerates to 60 in the 7's to 7.5 for an auto. This tells the story on our autotrannies gearing. It doesn't mean that you won't be able to get faster times, it just means it'll take more work to get there.

Get the VB mod and you're back on point or close to the 96's 0-60 acceleration times.

Ah, I get it..

It all makes sense now.