best car for dirfting?

i want to know what car is the bast for dirfting. but i would also like to know what is the least expensive and best car for dirfting?

The famous Tofu Car!! AE86!
Levin is nice to drift too!

I think it's the S15...the turbo and the car seems to be setup just for drifting.

S15 or RX7... or 944S2, 3.0 liter NA DOHC, 50/50 balance...

Of course, at a less premium price, I'm gonna suggest a Hachi, the LSD really makes a difference... then again, none can compare to the awesome might of the 924... :D

Everyone should know that the HACHI ROKU is king of drifts

I said other cuz the ultimate cars for drifting are the posrcha's like the 911.

FD RX 7

Originally posted by Neutrino
I said other cuz the ultimate cars for drifting are the posrcha's like the 911.

:D

http://members.rennlist.com/sbcspeed/GT3drifting.mpg

Yeah. :D

Originally posted by Cbass
http://members.rennlist.com/sbcspeed/GT3drifting.mpg


:eek:
Nice videO!

Originally posted by NSX


:eek:
Nice videO!

Ditto

Ty, there'll be a new one every day :D

S14 is obviously the best its shorter and lighter than the S15 (even tho the turbo versions have like 50 odd hp difference)

But i'd still pick the S15 anyday cuz thats what i'm savin for :bandit:

So where's Brighton? Is it in the UK, b/c I saw in the other thread you were talking in terms of pounds...

S15 Silvia, FD3S RX-7 and 180SX would be my top three choices. Porsche's drifting...?? they're better for Wangan if you ask me.

Wangan?

you don't know what Wangan is??:eek: :eek:

here's the short version: Wangan is a bridge in Japan with toll booths on either end. in between, there is no policing, so the jap racers came to the conclusion that it would be the perfect top speed racing spot. now, Wangan racers as they are called tune the HELL out of they're cars (most make upwards of 500hp and hit 200mph usually), including scoops and body kits and carbon wings to keep these road missles firmly planted on the ground, and take them out for a top speed Wangan run. this no longer only happens on the namesake bridge though. there are other bridges, tunnels and stretches of highway in japan that are used for the same purpose. like Initial D is a show devoted to drifting, Wangan also has a japanese TV show dedicated to it, called Wangan Midnight. the main character drives an incredible '72 S30Z Nissan Fairlady. here's an example of a Wangan car...

http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/645630yanachanNSX.jpg

Well, it all depends on the Porsche. Porsches have always been about handling, and braking moreso than acceleration. Sure, a 911 Turbo may be fast as hell, but it also handles very well.

The 924/944/968, are quite similar in layout and characteristics to a Silvia, they are quick handling front engine, RWD cars, with a 50/50 weight distribution.

Most are naturally aspirated, with the exception of the 924 Turbo, which is somewhat rare, and the 944 Turbo, which is capable of power equal to that of the most highly tuned Japanese engines. Not bad for an entry level car ;)

The 944S2 would be perfect for drifting, because of it's torquey nature, linear power curve, and excellent suspension.

If Keiichi Tsuchiya drives an 86, then I pick the 86 as the prime drift car

yea some of those wangan runners have 1000hp + Top Secret makes them :finger:

Originally posted by S13_Iketani
Wangan also has a japanese TV show dedicated to it, called Wangan Midnight

Are there any clips of it?

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I was just looking at the URL of that pic...that's a NSX??!!!:eek:

Originally posted by NSX


Are there any clips of it?

:eek:
I was just looking at the URL of that pic...that's a NSX??!!!:eek:

that is indeed an NSX. owned by a guy in Japan named Yanachan. he's part of an all-NSX wangan club called "Top End". some of their cars are crazy-fast, but his is the best by far.

more wangan warriors on overboost...

http://overboost.com/story.asp?id=216

unfortunately, you can't get into it... but i'll post the story here...

Dateline Las Vegas. We did a one-day cannonball run out to Sin City from L.A. to check out the International Z Car Convention. As great as the show was our real reason for attending was the inclusion of a dozen privately owned Japanese Domestic Market (JDM) Z's that Nissan had shipped to the States especially for the event. In our search for the most incredible JDM car at the show, more often than not people kept directing us back to this red 280ZX.
At first glance, this car looked rather nondescript aside from the wide-body kit. After all, the car is a 1978 model. We found the answer to this Z's unique appeal with a closer look at the specs - 600hp and a top speed of over 300 km/h! That's equivalent to 186 mph for our metrically challenged readers. Further investigation revealed much more about this car and its owner as well.
"The cars at the Tokyo Auto Salon do not impress me," the Z's owner remarked with a nonchalant tone. "No matter how much horsepower they make, these (Auto Salon) cars will never impress me unless they are driven. Cars are meant to be driven." Take a close look at the front end of this Z - it shamelessly wears its battle scars with pride. Not only is this car driven, it is driven mercilessly.
The car is actually owned by a well-mannered gentleman by the name of Toshi from Tokyo, Japan. Toshi politely requested that we withhold his last name and remove his license plate numbers because the Japanese police take a very dim view on the street racing element and he feared retribution as a result of this story. This is also because Toshi belongs to the Mid Night Racing Team - one of the most famous street racing teams in Japan. Mid Night's membership mainly consists of Porsches, Zs, and Skyline GTRs. Mid Night also leaves the 1320 and drift competitions to the kiddies, because their need for speed could only be met through what Toshi calls "maximum velocity." Top Speed has always been a hallowed benckmark and the team's dramatic exploits have been documented in over 200 editorial features in most of the leading Japanese auto magazines and even Turbo, MAX Power U.K., and Denmark's Autoviz magazine.

cont'd.

We still wanted to know how this Z puts out over 600 hp and how Toshi pushed it over the 300 km/h mark (right after that run it was discovered that the Z was running on only five cylinders!). All of the 280's tuning was performed at ABR (Air Breathing Research) Hosoki Engineering. Among other notable accomplishments ABR built the World's fastest Soarer (basically a twin-turbo Lexus SC 300) which recorded a "maximum velocity" of 218 mph. ABR increased the capacity of the L28E powerplant to 3,100cc with its own forged pistons, rods, crankshaft and cams. The 280ZX's very mild single turbo system was tossed in favor of twin IHI RHC-6 VX55 compressors and 3P-13 turbines. Power transfer is handled via a Z31 300ZX Turbo 5-speed transmission with an ABR LSD. Engine management is courtesy of a Nissan genuine 16-bit ECU, GReddy PROFEC and REBIC III and an HKS GCC.
At 186 mph they say you have no friends, you also have no room for error and this is where the aerodynamics and suspension and brakes help control the prodigious amounts of horsepower it takes to bring a car up to this velocity. Toshi chose specially modified Bilstein dampers with TRD springs and 16-inch Panasport wheels wrapped with Bridgestone RE71 tires. Stopping distances are reduced with no less than R32 Skyline GTR calipers utilizing TRD rotors from a Supra racing application. Aero improvements come in the form of an ABR Original body kit with front and rear fenders, front spoiler, side skirts, rear valance, rear hatch spoiler and a vented hood.
In addition to this Z Toshi also owns a 1982 280ZX Turbo (with only slight modifications - just for fun), a 1990 300ZX Turbo (with heavy modifications - recorded a 291km/h top speed) and a non-modified 1999 300ZX Turbo as a daily driver. Obviously Toshi's love for Z's runs deep and when we asked him why he started to modify his Z he calmly replied, "To win against my rivals, that is all." With an arsenal like this at his disposal we would have to say that Toshi probably left more than a few of his rivals in his tremendous wake.

SPECS:
Car Specs
Mid Night Racing Team 1978 280ZX
Engine Type: Nissan L28E

Engine Mods: Capacity increased to 3,100cc with forged 89f pistons, ABR original rods, ABR original crankshaft, ABR original 268-degree camshafts with 12.9 mm lift, intake 46.5 mm, exhaust 38.0 mm, twin IHI RHC-6 VX55 compressors and 3P-13 turbines
Engine Management: Nissan genuine 16-bit ECU; GReddy PROFEC and REBIC III; HKS GCC

Drivetrain: Z31 300ZX Turbo 5-speed transmission 0.779 fifth gear ratio; ABR Original special LSD with 3.545 final gear ratio

Suspension: Specially modified Bilstein dampers with TRD springs

Brakes: R32 Nissan Skyline GTR calipers with TRD Supra Race rotors

Wheels: Panasport C5R 16x8 front, 16x9 rear

Tires: Bridgestone RE71 225/50R16 front, 245/45R16 rear

Exterior Mods: ABR Original body kit with front and rear fenders, front spoiler, side skirts, rear valance, rear hatch spoiler, hood

Interior Mods: Autometer tachometer; Blitz EGT; HKS water temperature, oil temperature, oil pressure and boost gauge; ABR Original rollcage; Recaro SPG driver seat, Recaro LS passenger seat; Sabelt four-point harnesses; Nismo D-shape steering wheel
Mobiletronics: N/A

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Two hundred and sixteen miles per hour. Two hundred and sixteen miles per hour. Excuse the repetition, but we just like the way that sounds. Two hundred and sixteen miles per hour. The reason we are attracted to this particular velocity is that it is also the top speed of this Z car pictured here. These kind of numbers make this car the fastest, ahem, street legal Z in Japan.
We didn't exactly stumble upon this Beast from the East. We were introduced to this car through another newfound Japanese friend of ours, Toshi, who piloted his own Z car to more than 186 mph (click here to see the full feature)! Much like Toshi this Z's owner would only allow us publish his first name, Hiro, out of fear of retribution from the Japanese authorities. And when we asked him, through Toshi's bi-lingual skills, what he did for a living he would only tell us that he is self-employed. These guys are very secretive, and with good reason. If we spent our free time driving at speeds around the double-century mark on public highways, we wouldn't want the police to know who we are or what we do either. While Toshi belongs to the world famous Mid Night Racing Team Hiro belongs to a smaller club consisting of only two members. You might be wondering what kind of car the other member owns. It's a Toyota Soarer (a 7M-GTE-powered coupe) with a top end of 218 mph! Toshi, Hiro, the Soarer owner and the rest of the Mid Night Racing Team spend their late nights looking for areas of the Wangan Expressway where they can put these excessive machines to their own brand of top speed testing. One of the main directives of our Tokyo Auto Salon mission was to capture a video of the guys during some of their Wangan runs.
If you have any doubt to our claims of the top speed prowess of this Fairlady, its dramatic exploits (as well as those of the Mid Night Racing Team) have been documented in over 200 editorial features in most of the leading Japanese auto magazines and even Turbo, MAX Power U.K., and Denmark's Autoviz magazine. We were prepared to get some video footage of Hiro, Toshi and the rest of the guys in action, but we neglected one thing - a vehicle of our own (D'oh-OVB). So without our own wheels we were denied the chance to see these guys in action, although we will definitely be traveling back to the JDM in the near future, which will include a stop at the Hertz counter at the Narita airport. And although it was 0'dark thirty, Hiro was kind enough to allow us to take whatever pictures we could given the zero light setting. Since our new friend Hiro doesn't speak any English (which is far better than our Japanese skills) it made it hard to get the technical specs from him. With Toshi's help we were able to glean these little tidbits: the car has rocked the dyno rollers to the tune of over 800 hp to the rear wheels; the engine originally powered a Bonneville Salt Flats Fairlady to almost 400 km/h (250 mph); and most importantly, Hiro has no interest in any of these numbers or specs. He only cares about one thing - the maximum velocity he can wring out of this car. Toshi told us, "Hiro does not have any interest in the specifications. He only has an interest in how fast it is. Also, he believes that proper tuning and the perfect fuel management setup is much more important than the sum of the parts."

While Hiro makes a great point, we would still like to know what makes this Fairlady tick. From what we could make out in the very short but sweet spec sheet Hiro gave us the VG30DETT V-6 underwent a complete engine build-up, which includes 89 mm forged pistons, "Bonneville" spec camshafts and H-beam connecting rods. The twin turbo setup was upgraded with HKS GT3037S turbines and HKS GT wastegates mounted on a custom-made long type exhaust manifold, while the charge air is kept at a reasonable level with an ARC "special spec" front mount intercooler. To keep the fluid temps in check an oil cooler and high-flow radiator were also added. Increased fuel needs are met with 850 cc injectors and the out gases are expelled through dual 80 mm exhaust tips. Hiro's requirements for "perfect fuel management" are achieved with an HKS F-COM V-PRO and gear selection is assisted through a multi-puck racing clutch.
When Hiro's tearing up the Wangan at more than 200 mph he relies on ultra high performance (and ultra adhesive) 17-inch Yokohama Neova rubber wrapped around a mean-looking set of Panasport C5R five-spoke wheels. The Fairlady's suspension agility is improved with a trick set of Ohlins adjustable coilovers with remote reservoirs and when it comes time to haul the Z down to more sensible speeds Hiro relies on a Brembo racing kit.
One of the Overboosters was lucky enough to go for a brief ride with Hiro in the Fairlady (not lucky enough as he didn't get on it in the dense Tokyo traffic-OVB). As passengers and pilots, we've experienced enough street cars with buckets and harnesses (although Recaro SPGs with Willans belts are still very exclusive). But this car deceives your senses when Hiro fires it up. The lumpy cam idle, burbly exhaust and the electric fuel pump whirring away only inches behind your ears all scream Race Car. Not to mention the smell of the fuel and the chatter of the six individual clutch pucks rattling away with such vibration that you half expect to lose some vital transmission pieces as you pull away. Hiro actually drives this circuit crusher nearly every day. The antiquated steering wheel is actually a Datsun Competition model that Hiro acquired before he even owned the car. His love for Nissans runs deep. In fact he owned a Z31 prior to this Fairlady but an accident sidelined his modification plans.
The exterior is made more aerodynamically sound with the addition of a complete Bomex aero kit including a ducted hood. Some of Hiro's future plans involve the addition of a wide-body kit but much of the funding earmarked for this Z involves maintenance on the performance mods. The combination of the extreme engine build-up and Hiro's top speed exploits make for frequent rebuilds and part replacements. In regards to other future upgrades Hiro can only smile and tell us that his need for speed mirrors most people's lust for money - you can never have enough.
specs:

Car Specs
JDM Nissan Z32 300ZX

Engine Type: VG30DETT V-6

Displacement: 3.0L

Engine Mods: Complete engine build-up including 89 mm forged pistons, "Bonneville" spec camshafts, H-beam connecting rods, oil cooler, high-flow radiator; 850 cc injectors; HKS GT3037S turbines (2), HKS GT wastegates, custom-made long type exhaust manifold, ARC "special spec" front mount intercooler; dual 80 mm exhaust tips

Engine Management: HKS F-COM V-PRO

Drivetrain: Multi-puck racing clutch

Suspension: Ohlins adjustable coilovers with remote reservoirs

Brakes: Brembo racing kit

Wheels: Panasport C5R 8JJx17, 9JJ-17

Tires: Yokohama Neova 235/45ZR17, 265/40ZR17

Exterior Mods: Bomex aero kit (including front clip, side skirts, rear bumper, rear spoiler and aero ducted hood)

Interior Mods: Recaro SPG seats (2) with Willans harnesses, Datsun Competition steering wheel

Mobiletronics: N/A

enough posts?? yeesh...lol just kidding. thanks for posting the story for those of us without accounts! overboost is a rip-off and kind of ricey, but once in a while they do have good articles. that 216mph Z32 is just amazing.

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demonzx is gonna die when he sees these... hehe

the only reason i took so many posts... is b/c no one wants to read the whole thing in one post...
and people will always ask what the story is... so i figured i'd show the whole thing...

and yeah, it's my post whoring for the day...

i'm a big overboost fan... they have alot of nicer imports on their site... it's getting better... and they cover shows like the tokyo auto salon, not just u.s. bs...

i agree their photo coverage of TAS was excellent. i right clicked and saved at least 50 pics from their TAS galleries. :D

i'm a bit biased b/c of their site, but the cars they have are all high caliber, and they cover the big events, do big mods on cars, and their photo galleries are always amazing... but that's just me...

they've got great coverage of last years show too...

The chevy corvet w/it's 50/50 ratio the mr2 or sw20 and of corse the rx7

The best would be somthing w/like an 50/50 ratio but the cheapest is the 86, toyota corola , levin or what ever you want to call it its prety much the same drive train it drfts well to

i would assume a car with an equal weight distribution may be a disadvantage...

most drift cars are nose heavy to an extent, very light rear ends to slide easily...

that's why most don't have back seats, and nothing in the boot/trunk area...

it'd be harder to drift a car with 50/50 weight distribution as opposed to 60/40 or even 70/30

AE86 are the-never-give-up grunt of the bunch. I love them but I'm still sticking to my lovable GTS-T

I think a 50/50 weight distribution is critical to having a good handling car, especially when drifting. You can always stiffen the rear springs ;)

The C5 Corvette would be quite an impressive drifting machine as well.

Hmm, how about a first gen RX7 with a 5.0 Ford in it?:devil:

Originally posted by Cbass
Hmm, how about a first gen RX7 with a 5.0 Ford in it?:devil:

how about no? haha...

first gen RX-7 with a 13B in it...:eek: :eek:

the 5 litre would ruin the cars balance.

Originally posted by S13_Iketani


how about no? haha...

first gen RX-7 with a 13B in it...:eek: :eek:

the 5 litre would ruin the cars balance.

Actually, the 12A weighs 355lbs, and the 5.0 HO weighs 410 lbs, so relocating the battery to the trunk actually gives it more of a rear weight bias.

Also, a naturally aspirated V8 would be better for drifting than a turbo RE, as it has a more linear power curve.

Originally posted by Cbass


Actually, the 12A weighs 355lbs, and the 5.0 HO weighs 410 lbs, so relocating the battery to the trunk actually gives it more of a rear weight bias.

Also, a naturally aspirated V8 would be better for drifting than a turbo RE, as it has a more linear power curve.

it's all about keeping it in the family.

big V8's in small jap cars are not the way to be.

I voted for other, because it's obvious that a Toyota Starlet, with it's engine swaped for an RX-7 rotory unit would be the ultimate car for going sideways. (and I mean the early starlet with rear wheel drive)

Originally posted by S13_Iketani


it's all about keeping it in the family.

big V8's in small jap cars are not the way to be.

Ah, the rotary purist stance :P

I remember when the Cobra was first built, and a few people said that it wasn't right because it was a british car with an american V8...

Besides, a 5.0 is not a big V8 :hehehe: If you compare it to a 3.0 engine that has been turbocharged and well built, it's not all that powerful...

the S14 is lighter and shorter than the S15 so it is actually supposedly technically better than the S15 but i voted the S15 all the same

I think the sileighty or the Silvia S13 with a SR20 is the best for drifting.

rx-7

I'd have to say a camaro, you can buy them for $50 if ya shop a lil, they come with decent power, and when you wreck it, who really cares?

I'd have to say a camaro, you can buy them for $50 if ya shop a lil, they come with decent power, and when you wreck it, who really cares?

Originally posted by Tercel GTS
I'd have to say a camaro, you can buy them for $50 if ya shop a lil, they come with decent power, and when you wreck it, who really cares?

:iagree: but actually it is 25$ in my area :bananasmi

:iagree: but actually it is 25$ in my area :bananasmi

Wow, that's pretty cheap.

:iagree: but actually it is 25$ in my area :bananasmi
can you buy me like, 15 of them and airmail em to me? i mean since their so cheap and all :smokin:

wreck? nonono

barbecue :naughty:

Best drift car is always NA (i.e. AE86) but i like the idea of the Ford Falcon XR6 turbo drifter: 4.0L L6 DOHC produces enough exaust gas to keep an HKS T51R SPL BB almost LAG FREE, keep in mind this turbo flows up to 1000bhp + Falcon 6 is built like a brick s---house so no rods through blocks etc... at high boost. In fact, fitting a cat back exaust and computer can boost power from stock 240Kw (% by 1.35 for Bhp) to 300 KW (398bhp)

sorry X by 1.35 for Bhp

It has always been my belief that drift is not about Bhp.... meh who cares? horsepower is great fun!!!!

Will someone close the damn poll, the guy cant even spell "drift" correctly!

Hi im new to these forums but i though you would all like to see a fantastic drift in an Aus spec AE86 sprinter with mods

http://www.meggala.com/simondrift.htm


Check it out... pretty mad...

Hi im new to these forums but i though you would all like to see a fantastic drift in an Aus spec AE86 sprinter with mods

http://www.meggala.com/simondrift.htm


Check it out... pretty mad...
Yes, you are new to the forums, so please, post your posts in the CORRECT forum to avoid getting flamed, this is the Initial D forum, where we discuss the game/manga/anime, go to the DRIFTING forum to make posts about drifting. Its not even a Sprinter either, its a Levin, its even your screenname, how did you miss that?

Yes, you are new to the forums, so please, post your posts in the CORRECT forum to avoid getting flamed, this is the Initial D forum, where we discuss the game/manga/anime, go to the DRIFTING forum to make posts about drifting. Its not even a Sprinter either, its a Levin, its even your screenname, how did you miss that?

To reply to your "high and mighty" post... The Levin was released in Australia as a Toyota Sprinter.. Not a Toyota Corrolla Levin..

So because it is in Aus it is a sprinter...

So no... i didn't miss any thing..

The Trueno's where never released in Aus so the Levin is a just calld a sprinter here...

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=1158
You say Aus-spec Sprinter, so what would a Aus-spec Levin be? ;) :licka:

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=1158
You say Aus-spec Sprinter, so what would a Aus-spec Levin be? ;) :licka:


Aus spec Levin ? Didn't you just answer that yourself?

Aus spec Levin ? Didn't you just answer that yourself?
My hypocrisy at its best ;) :licka: