best car for dirfting?

there is no levins or truenos in Aus.

Aus got the f**ked up 4AC carby poofter engine!

its not enough to have it called an AE86 with out a 4AG.

the aussie Ae86 is basically a Levin with Trueno taillights, but shit engine, no LSD and drum brake rear end!

and the best car for 'dirfting' is a S13 silvia w/ SR20 motor.

Cheap, light, powerful, looks mad when done up.

and the best car for 'dirfting' is a S13 silvia w/ SR20 motor.

Cheap, light, powerful, looks mad when done up.


Actually... the s14 is supposedly the best car for drifting ..... As it has the best weight distribution... Which is the key ingredient to drift... I am currently placing a 110kw 4age in my Aus spec AE86... Does that make it any better dori corrolla..??? Along with new suspension/brakes/clutch/diff... just enough to make me happy...

also what engine you got in your rolla???

And what rolla is it???

out of interest...????

i got a KE55 POS.

it slides on dirt

the engine is a standard 4K very hardy motor but no power.

it cannot drift but only slide a bit.

i will try when i get another car, try drift but for now i need the chassis straight :D

I am currently placing a 110kw 4age in my Aus spec AE86... Does that make it any better dori corrolla..???


yes, i does :D:D

where you at in Aus???

if in SA, come to Nairne :D

Nar dude i'm in Bris... :(...

You post on toymods????

Meh....
Rolla's rule... lol

nah i dont go to there.

i only have net at school and most of that time is on here anyway.



*Rolla's rule* :D

Most of yous should know that its not the car is the driver and the setup of the car...Yes certian cars are good for drifting but its not just up to the car to do all the work...its the driver...

To drift a car is to create reckless art

Let the DAMN THREAD DIE ALREADY. This is the Initial D forum! Go to the drifting forum to discuss drifting!

I say the 180sx, i like the Trueno, but shit, 128hp isnt really choice
(i know, its DRIFTING not pure speed, but you still need some power!)

I say the 180sx, i like the Trueno, but shit, 128hp isnt really choice
(i know, its DRIFTING not pure speed, but you still need some power!)
Once again, GET OUT OUT OF THE DAMN INITIAL D FORUM. ITs INITIAL D, the ANIME/MANGA/GAME, not DRIFTING, there is ALREADY A DRIFTING FORUM.
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=1158
LET THE GODAMN THREAD DIE ALREADY.

sw20 mid engine, NA and light no car like it

Once again, GET OUT OUT OF THE DAMN INITIAL D FORUM. ITs INITIAL D, the ANIME/MANGA/GAME, not DRIFTING, there is ALREADY A DRIFTING FORUM.
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=1158
LET THE GODAMN THREAD DIE ALREADY.
Jesus christ :banghead:

As much as I'd like to see you suffer an aneurysm, Jeff For Sale, I'll do you a favor and move this thread.

i got a KE55 POS.

it slides on dirt

the engine is a standard 4K very hardy motor but no power.

it cannot drift but only slide a bit.

i will try when i get another car, try drift but for now i need the chassis straight :D

This is interesting to me....And you may be interested too :)
A friend of mine has a KE55 coupe he has rebuilt to the same (actually better) spec as the TE37 Levin of its time (ie 1977) that shared the same body, but had a T series engine in Japan and elsewhere.

His mods include a ported DOHC 2T-G head, with big cams, and sidedraught mikunis on an overbored, high compression, 3T bottom end (its a touch over 1.8 litres). Behind a heavily lightened flywheel and heavy duty clutch it is a T50 box.
Suspension wise, up front he has fabricated front height adjustable coilovers (on xA6x celica strut bodies) with AE92 toyota inserts and King race springs, using Peugeot front disks and four piston Landcruiser calipers. The rear end is a locked celica diff, on uprated wagon leaf springs, with aftermarket shocks and a hand fabricated panhard rod. Inside the cloth CS-X interior has made way for a full black vinyl setup from a base model, he has a personal steering wheel and a celica tachometer replaces the factory clock. It also has japanese levin badging and levin taillights, and will soon have a levin hood and grille to complete the transformation from KE55 to TE37. It rolls on 14x7" BR rims (Japanese RS-watanabe copies) with semi-comp bridgestones. Also has a hand fabricated cromo-aluminium strut bar in the front.

Purpose of this? This car is built comprising almost entirely modified or retrofitted factory toyota parts, albeit from commercial or larger vehicles. Almost all the work is his own, and he has learned as he has built it. Its not an expensive build (bar the rare parts to convert it to Levin spec like badges, gauges, interior, grille), but its brutally effective on the track and in the hills. and let me add it is one of the most fun, controllable and capable drift cars I've seen. Also, he has used it as a "school" of sorts - that is he has taught himself all the requisite skills and has upgraded the car along with his driving ability.
A KE55 certainly can certainly drift, so long as you choose the right mods.

porsches especially the new ones are horrible for drifting, utterly impossible to loose the tail, best are 80s RWD japanesse cars, and 70s firebird. But classic domestics are very easy to drift but its hard to control, RX7, 240sx, trueno AE86, supra, even MR2z, r the best for drifting, once ur good go get a s13 with a sr20det and ull drift better then any car in the world

A good drift car has to be one thing: Expendable

You dont want a brand new expensive sports car like the S15 to drift with. Its GOING to get damaged, you just need something:

1. RWD
2. Lightweight
3. Balanced (50:50)
4. ~170RWHP or more, preferably NA

Thats why I'd choose a NA RX-7 FC, you can actually find them for under 2 grand.

A good drift car has to be one thing: Expendable

You dont want a brand new expensive sports car like the S15 to drift with. Its GOING to get damaged, you just need something:

1. RWD
2. Lightweight
3. Balanced (50:50)
4. ~170RWHP or more, preferably NA

Thats why I'd choose a NA RX-7 FC, you can actually find them for under 2 grand.

Needs to have enough power to actually break the tyres loose though, far as I've experienced NA FC RX7's are severely lacking there...And needs to be reliable enough to do it on a regular basis, and again they have a bit of a problem with being regularly thrashed...and 170RWHP, surely it wouldn't make that either?

Anyway, I'd say something in the S13 or RPS13 range , they seem to be the best.

My personal "wishlist" drift car .....
DR30 RS-X Skyline with an old Trust TD05 kit, HKS 304 cams, Nismo 2-way mechanical diff centre, and JIC coilovers rolling on some RS-watanabe 8 spoke 15x8" rims front / SSR reverse mesh 15x9" on the back :D

A good drift car has to be one thing: Expendable

You dont want a brand new expensive sports car like the S15 to drift with. Its GOING to get damaged, you just need something:

1. RWD
2. Lightweight
3. Balanced (50:50)
4. ~170RWHP or more, preferably NA

Thats why I'd choose a NA RX-7 FC, you can actually find them for under 2 grand.

smart guy, I have one and its nice, got it for $2,200 in great shape only 98k miles, so yea they are cheap :) S13's were cheap but not anymore, although my cousin now has 2 which he got for $1700 and $2100 so I guess if you know how to shop, they are cheap too.

definately FC or S13

I think a Hoda Civic wuold be awsome!:screwy:


:chair:

I own 2 ae86's good cars but I am gonna go agianst the grain and I am gonna say uummm The FC3S RX-7 I love those cars just too bad ass, also A31 Cefirio if you don't know what this is it looks like a 4 door s13 silvia but with sexy tail lights and a RB20DET truely awesome car.

you got any pics of an A31 Cefirio? sounds interesting :)

how about the late 80s cressida? that's a decent car. plus its availiable i america unlike the cefiro.

http://www1.ocn.ne.jp/~dennou/hobby/car/ce.jpg
http://www.japanesemotorsport.com.au/Cefiro/cefiro1.jpg
http://www.bn-sports.co.jp/4door/image/CEFIRO_front.jpg

Here's your A31 Cefiro pics, Soyo.

Beautiful car!

I Kinda like the old SKYLINE R30's and R31's! Very good drift cars! I also like the more recent 33 and 34 GTS SKYLINE's.... it's a pity the GTR's take all the fame!
The S13 SILVIA is my fave drift-car though!

i think that the skylines are too big but i still want one. Here's my idea:

I wanna take the r33 gts coupe chassis and swap to a rb30e. the rb30 will have a rb25 head andit will be bored and stroked to 3.3 liters (i dont know how). I kinda feel that n/a cars are more controlaable than boosted ones, thats why i just want an atmo car.

i think that the skylines are too big but i still want one. Here's my idea:

I wanna take the r33 gts coupe chassis and swap to a rb30e. the rb30 will have a rb25 head andit will be bored and stroked to 3.3 liters (i dont know how). I kinda feel that n/a cars are more controlaable than boosted ones, thats why i just want an atmo car.

They're big 'n sexy though... imagine ripping up your tires going sideways chasing down a nimble AE86 or S13 around a corner! That's bad-ass!

One thing: I know you meant 'two-door' SKYLINE... but all SKYLINES are SEDANS and not COUPES. I agree that the NA RB series engines are better suited for drift... I want one so bad! There is a 1983 SKYLINE TuRbOeD for-sale in LA county and the guy wants $9,000 obo for her... if only I could dish out that kinda money right now.... shit I would even trade my Z for that!

What do you guys think of the SILVIA Q's? Non-turbo SILVIA's are known for their drifting... but don't they lack power? I don't hear too much about these cars or their power potential... I have only seen one or two in DRIFT-TENGOKU...

drftK1d, personally I'd start with a HCR32 GTS-T chassis, lighter for starters.
Certainly get the RB25 head though, and the RB30E bottom end isn't a bad idea, though you need custom pistons to get the deck height right for compression with the 25 head - RB25DE comp is about 10:1 whereas the RB25 combustion chamber with RB30E pistons gives about 8.3:1 comp.
You'll be able to go to about 3.2 litres with an offset ground crank, custom rods , and a big bore job.

I'm currently saving for a DR30RS-X, and some go fast bits for the old FJ20ET... Thinking about 7.0:1 comp, cosworth pistons, carillo rods, balanced crank,light flywheel, HKS 304 grind cams, modified valvesprings and retainers, mild porting, N15 SR20DE throttle body, and maybe a T51R or T04 on a custom manifold (possibly something a little smaller, but big is good..) ....
So that should make the FJ basically bulletproof (FJ's make SR's look like a gutless , fragile hunk of crap), should spin about 9500-10k and make monster power, if a bit on the laggy/peaky/uncontrollable side , not to mention kidney rattling coilovers and a deafening exhaust... :evillol:
But it would be a trip to just destroy modern cars with a fairly innocuous looking 20 year old four cylinder...

mmmm fj20 w/ t51r (a spl would be nutso). the best of ol school and new.

the onyl reason i wanted the r33 is because i think it looks better (and as a plus the chassis is tighter).

believe me i did think about a r32 but i decided that by the time i get the resources to do this project the 32 chassis would be kinda old.

but i kinda wanted a high comp ratio like 11:1

Bronigs, have you ever stepped foot in a new Porsche? My boy Keeichi doesn't seem to have a problem getting the tail out on 'em, and further more the REAL Porsches are rear engine/ rwd, that automatically makes them tail happy up the wazzu, you're probably thinking of the awd models. Yes we will never be able to afford them but the proof is in the punch.
Lachean I have a question. You say you need at least 170hp.
The ae86 are only made for and are best at about 140-150whp when properly balanced. Plus this makes the engine last a whole lot longer than if you try and put 250+whp in your car.

you deffinately don't need 170hp, my car has 160(stock) so its probably a bit lower since its so old, and I bet I could lose 10 more horses and still be able to drift, well I'd do little wussy ones, but an experienced person would do good :)

and boss san, there is an edit button, use it

i agree wangan is one sick road

You just need enough horsepower to get a considerable amount of speed. An AE86 does fine with ~110hp, my 240SX does fine with 155bhp, etc. You shouldn't have to rely on power.

Got any pics of your friend's KE55 by chance? It sounds sweet.

Boss San, I said ~170 Horses, which means "around there depending on the car's weight"

Better?

It's all down to personal driver preference. 150-550, whatever.
How about that.

No you're both wrong.

All drift cars should have 350 hp.

lol.

No you're both wrong.

All drift cars should have 350 hp.

lol.



:sly: :cwm27:

I can do power over drifts with my 160hp rx7, why get all that horespower if all you wanna do is drift? although more horsepower means better tire smoke in some cases, so its all up to you... personal I want about 250-275hp, so I can drift, and tear up people on the streets :)

Got any pics of your friend's KE55 by chance? It sounds sweet.

No pics of it at the moment right now - its in the throes of the final lot of mods to make it complete... But when its done it will have a black vinyl levin style interior, TE37 levin grille, levin hood, bumpers, taillights....Big cams, 1.8+ bottom end.... Its going to be very trick. When Jonny finishes it I'll get some pics, currently the engine and front end are out (coilovers + 4 pot brakes being built up, 1.8 litre bottom end and cams just done), the grille is off pending the levin one arriving from japan, and the hood is unpainted in factory toyota primer.
But its not far away.

I said other cuz the ultimate cars for drifting are the posrcha's like the 911.

Not to nitpick, but PorschE is my brand, spelled Porsche pronounced por-sha

RX-7 perfect balance, you dont need gobs of ponies to drift, SKILL, which I could not probaly do

acctually Porsches are not that great to drift because of all the electronic suspension stuff they have and I think they have all wheel steering... anyways this is what I've heard, and that would make it very difficult to drift, although it can be done... deffinately not the best drift car though

nissan Silvia's have all wheel steering and there's nothing wrong with them. PS if you've seen any video with Tiff Needell + porsche's you would know what you just said is complete and utter shit.

Note he's the ukD1 judge.

hey your a fagg... I didn't say they can't... but its not the best drift car... why do idiots like you argue with people that don't even say what your yelling about? I never said they couldn't... fraking stupid people... dang

EDIT: oh yea and its called HICAS on the S-chasis and it can be disabled, and it doesn't steer the wheels like most AWS systems do... trust me I know because my cousin has a 240 with it

My friend has a Porsche 944 and it should be great for drifting when it's properly sorted. It does not have four-wheel steering or electronic suspension.
They are front engined, rear wheel drive. It has a 2.5litre (I believe) 8valve engine, and about 130-140hp for now.
That doesn't sound like a poor drifter to me.

I think he was talking about the newer mid/rear engined Porches, like the Carerra (sp?), 911 GTx, etc.

The 944 is nice, though.

Is it just me, or do FC's look alot like 928's?

You guys have got to be shitting me. I can't believe the stuff I read in here. FRAK! Read a book, they don't bite.

You guys have got to be shitting me. I can't believe the stuff I read in here. FRAK! Read a book, they don't bite.

FRAK you too.

BMWs are pretty good drifters, like E30s.
If someone already said this then sorry

FC's, as in the one's everyone like's to drift are the Japanese competition with the front engined Porsche's. Why do people think drift cars all come from Japan? The Porsche's were on the market before most of the FC models. The 994 came out in like '83 in the U.S. and before that there were 928's and the like running around in the late seventies. Mazda, Nissan, Toyota all make good cars but people forget that cars are made in different countires.

FC's, as in the one's everyone like's to drift are the Japanese competition with the front engined Porsche's. Why do people think drift cars all come from Japan? The Porsche's were on the market before most of the FC models. The 994 came out in like '83 in the U.S. and before that there were 928's and the like running around in the late seventies. Mazda, Nissan, Toyota all make good cars but people forget that cars are made in different countires.


"Is it just me, or do FC's look alot like 928's?"

Thats what i said. Not the other way around.

Where do you think Mazda got the design idea's for the FC.
Look to the fatherland.

S14 and S15 along with an FD RX7 are my picks.

the s13 i think is slightly better then the s14 and s 15 and the s 14 is still a better drifter the the s15 but the fd rx7's are sick this guy asked about cheap drifters so why are we talking about porsche

Because a 924 can be picked up for under 2K, a 924 Turbo for under 5K, a 944 for under 7K, and a 944 Turbo for under 12K. Plus 928's are sub-8K and 928S4's are sub-15K cars.

The front engine Porsches are inexpensive and easy to tune. That why we're discussing them.

if its got wheels you can drift it. pretty much.

I didn't say how well you can drift it or how good it looks IE FF drifts don't look as good as FR drifts. But pretty much anything can drift.

End of discussion :D

Shhhh! You said FF and drift in the same sentence. Are you mad? Look out for the newb's! They're coming to post!! Ahhhhh!!! Run!

Ha ha!

Shhhh! You said FF and drift in the same sentence. Are you mad? Look out for the newb's! They're coming to post!! Ahhhhh!!! Run!

Ha ha!
riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight :sly:

Shhhh! You said FF and drift in the same sentence. Are you mad? Look out for the newb's! They're coming to post!! Ahhhhh!!! Run!

Ha ha!
you do realise that FF can drift. Hence why there is nothing. Let me point this out to you

NOTHING ie absolutely nothing and i mean nothing - not a trace not a hint that Front wheel drive cars aren't allowed to enter D1 competitions in japan. This is in their rule books and pretty much means that FF's can drift.

o and that sarcasm and wit wasn't funny