Eclipse GSX V.S Maxima
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EclipseMan
11-05-2002, 11:48 PM
Would a 97 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX AWD Turbo Beat a 96-99 Nissan Maxima SE if they were both stock.:sun:
turbo2nr
11-08-2002, 08:46 AM
i would say yes but it would be close. those maximas are fast. i used 2 have 1.
but if it waz stock vs. stock id give it 2 da eclipse cause its turbo n awd.
wit da awd u will get better pull on da max off the line. also those maximas make 190hp at da crank, i think those eclipses make bout 200hp+ at da crank so i give it 2 da eclipse:flipa:
but if it waz stock vs. stock id give it 2 da eclipse cause its turbo n awd.
wit da awd u will get better pull on da max off the line. also those maximas make 190hp at da crank, i think those eclipses make bout 200hp+ at da crank so i give it 2 da eclipse:flipa:
Zero8985
11-08-2002, 10:38 AM
my eclipse beats an Altima GXE all the time, and if i am right, that should be close to the Maxima SE, and horsepower doesn't mean too much when you have a light car.
b0mb3r
11-08-2002, 05:00 PM
what year altima? the old skool altimas have a 2.4L DOHC engine w/ about 155 HP, its an engine from a truck so it does not really have much HP on the top.
MaximusGTR
11-09-2002, 03:55 AM
If both were stock, the eclipse would win, but if we are supercharged (like myself) or turbo'ed (like yourself) we would win....As a matter of fact, I think it would be close if we added just a y-pipe!!!!! The SUPERCHARGER added to a stock 190 hp maxima will give us about 260 hp at the wheels!!!!:p :eek: :D :licker: :alien: :silly2: :hehe: :what: :ylsuper
b0mb3r
11-09-2002, 01:50 PM
you still have a FWD and off the line the eclipse w/ its 4wd system will be quicker, also eclipse is lighter :-)
MaximusGTR
11-10-2002, 01:36 PM
So even the difference between hp, your saying the gsx would still win, lets say even if you have a supercharged max?
Zero8985
11-12-2002, 05:53 AM
Originally posted by b0mb3r
what year altima? the old skool altimas have a 2.4L DOHC engine w/ about 155 HP, its an engine from a truck so it does not really have much HP on the top.
The one i race was the last model before they remodelled the altima. But the engine was something weak.
what year altima? the old skool altimas have a 2.4L DOHC engine w/ about 155 HP, its an engine from a truck so it does not really have much HP on the top.
The one i race was the last model before they remodelled the altima. But the engine was something weak.
Platinum_Skyline01
11-12-2002, 06:27 PM
I think Eclipse GSX AWD
Eclipse got da AWD goin and da 16g turbo.... Maxima are strong but they r too heavy. I raced a 1998 Maxima SE and beat 4 cars behind, i got the AWD boost and the turbo. ^_^!!
Eclipse got da AWD goin and da 16g turbo.... Maxima are strong but they r too heavy. I raced a 1998 Maxima SE and beat 4 cars behind, i got the AWD boost and the turbo. ^_^!!
MaximusGTR
11-15-2002, 02:49 AM
WHAT YOU TALKIN ABOUT WILLIS ? Thats BS, Do your homework... 97 eclipse GSX weight 3130 lbs-----95 Maxima GXE weight 3001 lbs. CHECK OUT edmunds.com
Come on now, 4 cars:bloated: :confused: Like I said before I'm supercharged with a few other goodies, so no Eclipse is gonna beat "me" by no 4 cars. :licker: :badass:
Come on now, 4 cars:bloated: :confused: Like I said before I'm supercharged with a few other goodies, so no Eclipse is gonna beat "me" by no 4 cars. :licker: :badass:
MaximusGTR
11-15-2002, 02:55 AM
Maximas are too heavy, NOT:confused: , people think because there 4 door cars, that they are just TOOOOO heavy......:silly2:
95 Maxima GXE (AUTO SLUSHBOX)
-Stillin Supercharger-- (260+ hp at the wheels)
-Cold Air Intake
-Ported and polished heads
-Stillin cat back exaust
95 Maxima GXE (AUTO SLUSHBOX)
-Stillin Supercharger-- (260+ hp at the wheels)
-Cold Air Intake
-Ported and polished heads
-Stillin cat back exaust
benleyd19tx
11-23-2002, 02:46 AM
Turbo, supercharged......N/A'd, it doesn't matter!!!! It's all about Power x wieght - traction. A 225 h.p. maxima that wieghs 3500 lbs on a FWD drivtrian (the worst to have for traction!!) Vs. A 190 h.p. 3200 car with all wheel drive (the best for traction) will beat the wild crap out of a max. And if for nothing else.... I see these two cars race all the time. The slightly less powerful, much lighter car with FAR SUPERIOR TRACTION owns the max. And a Gs-Turbo will too b/c it still has 190 h.p., but only wieghs 2700 lbs. Just for future use....It's a general rule of thumb that a 100lb increase is equivelent to having about 10 less h.p.
So 3500lb Max @ 225 h.p. , and a 2700lb GS-T @ 190h.p. =800lb difference and only 30 h.p. which translates to Taillights for the maxima.
and vs. the 3200lb eclipse = 300 lb difference which will tie or beat the max alone + having 4 wheels of traction (being able to luanch at 5000 +rpms and barely spin the tires one rotation = again.....tailights for the Maxima!!
So 3500lb Max @ 225 h.p. , and a 2700lb GS-T @ 190h.p. =800lb difference and only 30 h.p. which translates to Taillights for the maxima.
and vs. the 3200lb eclipse = 300 lb difference which will tie or beat the max alone + having 4 wheels of traction (being able to luanch at 5000 +rpms and barely spin the tires one rotation = again.....tailights for the Maxima!!
civicHBsi91
11-23-2002, 03:41 PM
Eclipse got da AWD goin and da 16g turbo....
i thought THE stock eclipses had 14b turbos......
i thought THE stock eclipses had 14b turbos......
turboawdgsx
11-27-2002, 10:20 AM
i thought THE stock eclipses had 14b turbos......
The first generation Eclipse's(90-94) had a TD-05 14b, the second Gen(95-99) had the T-25 turbo's. Completely different ones. The T-25 has hella quick spool, whilst the 14b has much better top end & stronger flow. The only cars that came w/ the 16g were the Evo's over in Japan.
Rob
90 Eclipse GSX
The first generation Eclipse's(90-94) had a TD-05 14b, the second Gen(95-99) had the T-25 turbo's. Completely different ones. The T-25 has hella quick spool, whilst the 14b has much better top end & stronger flow. The only cars that came w/ the 16g were the Evo's over in Japan.
Rob
90 Eclipse GSX
Hitter85
11-27-2002, 01:18 PM
Heck..a Eclipse RS would beat a maxima..j/k I still believe that the GSX with AWD could be the Maxima
Spazpilot
11-27-2002, 01:23 PM
97 eclipse gst 15.1 1/4 mile
00 maxima se 15.9 1/4 mile
98 eclipse gsx 15.4 1/4 mile
both the awd and fwd will beat the maxima based on r@t. performance wise go with the eclipse. previous car 97 eclipse gst with mods 11.96 at 123. haven't seen a maxima do those times
00 maxima se 15.9 1/4 mile
98 eclipse gsx 15.4 1/4 mile
both the awd and fwd will beat the maxima based on r@t. performance wise go with the eclipse. previous car 97 eclipse gst with mods 11.96 at 123. haven't seen a maxima do those times
srumel92
12-10-2002, 11:54 PM
does anyone know what to expect out of a remanufactured 92 eclipse gsx engine from japan also are there any differences to the stock engine????
Zero8985
12-13-2002, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by benleyd19tx
Turbo, supercharged......N/A'd, it doesn't matter!!!! It's all about Power x wieght - traction. A 225 h.p. maxima that wieghs 3500 lbs on a FWD drivtrian (the worst to have for traction!!) Vs. A 190 h.p. 3200 car with all wheel drive (the best for traction) will beat the wild crap out of a max. And if for nothing else.... I see these two cars race all the time. The slightly less powerful, much lighter car with FAR SUPERIOR TRACTION owns the max. And a Gs-Turbo will too b/c it still has 190 h.p., but only wieghs 2700 lbs. Just for future use....It's a general rule of thumb that a 100lb increase is equivelent to having about 10 less h.p.
So 3500lb Max @ 225 h.p. , and a 2700lb GS-T @ 190h.p. =800lb difference and only 30 h.p. which translates to Taillights for the maxima.
and vs. the 3200lb eclipse = 300 lb difference which will tie or beat the max alone + having 4 wheels of traction (being able to luanch at 5000 +rpms and barely spin the tires one rotation = again.....tailights for the Maxima!!
I dunno where you get your info from... but all GS-Ts and GSXs have 210 horsepower stock, and the worst drivetrain for traction is rwd. Fwd is worst for power. But i agree that the eclipse would beat the Maxima SE, except if it comes up to the 2003 maxima, that one is sorta ifey.
Turbo, supercharged......N/A'd, it doesn't matter!!!! It's all about Power x wieght - traction. A 225 h.p. maxima that wieghs 3500 lbs on a FWD drivtrian (the worst to have for traction!!) Vs. A 190 h.p. 3200 car with all wheel drive (the best for traction) will beat the wild crap out of a max. And if for nothing else.... I see these two cars race all the time. The slightly less powerful, much lighter car with FAR SUPERIOR TRACTION owns the max. And a Gs-Turbo will too b/c it still has 190 h.p., but only wieghs 2700 lbs. Just for future use....It's a general rule of thumb that a 100lb increase is equivelent to having about 10 less h.p.
So 3500lb Max @ 225 h.p. , and a 2700lb GS-T @ 190h.p. =800lb difference and only 30 h.p. which translates to Taillights for the maxima.
and vs. the 3200lb eclipse = 300 lb difference which will tie or beat the max alone + having 4 wheels of traction (being able to luanch at 5000 +rpms and barely spin the tires one rotation = again.....tailights for the Maxima!!
I dunno where you get your info from... but all GS-Ts and GSXs have 210 horsepower stock, and the worst drivetrain for traction is rwd. Fwd is worst for power. But i agree that the eclipse would beat the Maxima SE, except if it comes up to the 2003 maxima, that one is sorta ifey.
SledgehammerVette
12-25-2002, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by Spazpilot
97 eclipse gst 15.1 1/4 mile
00 maxima se 15.9 1/4 mile
98 eclipse gsx 15.4 1/4 mile
both the awd and fwd will beat the maxima based on r@t. performance wise go with the eclipse. previous car 97 eclipse gst with mods 11.96 at 123. haven't seen a maxima do those times
Sorry but a 00 Maxima SE does not do 15.9 in the 1/4 mile. Even the automatic does not do that! Stock a 95-98 Maxima 5-Spd will run 14.7 (with a good driver). It's usually 14.9-15.2. Autos do about 15.1 to 15.5.
00 Maxima does about the same as the 95-98 even though it has 222HP. It's the increased weight that slows it down.
And if you even think about racing a 2k2 or 2k3, you'll get your ass handed too you. 6-Spds stock do 14.4-14.8. Autos run 14.6-15.0.
97 eclipse gst 15.1 1/4 mile
00 maxima se 15.9 1/4 mile
98 eclipse gsx 15.4 1/4 mile
both the awd and fwd will beat the maxima based on r@t. performance wise go with the eclipse. previous car 97 eclipse gst with mods 11.96 at 123. haven't seen a maxima do those times
Sorry but a 00 Maxima SE does not do 15.9 in the 1/4 mile. Even the automatic does not do that! Stock a 95-98 Maxima 5-Spd will run 14.7 (with a good driver). It's usually 14.9-15.2. Autos do about 15.1 to 15.5.
00 Maxima does about the same as the 95-98 even though it has 222HP. It's the increased weight that slows it down.
And if you even think about racing a 2k2 or 2k3, you'll get your ass handed too you. 6-Spds stock do 14.4-14.8. Autos run 14.6-15.0.
Polygon
12-25-2002, 08:38 PM
Yes, simply put, the GSX will beat a Nissan Maxima stock for stock. I have beaten a mid 90's Maxima in a beat out Chrysler Mini-Van.
SledgehammerVette
12-25-2002, 08:53 PM
Originally posted by Polygon
Yes, simply put, the GSX will beat a Nissan Maxima stock for stock. I have beaten a mid 90's Maxima in a beat out Chrysler Mini-Van.
You beat a Maxima in a beat up Mini-Van? :what: Sorry, I'm just not going to believe that one. Either he had a major problem or he didn't know that you were racing. Maximas aren't slow.
Yes I think a GSX could take or even beat the Maxima, but it's not going to be by 4 cars or whatever.
Yes, simply put, the GSX will beat a Nissan Maxima stock for stock. I have beaten a mid 90's Maxima in a beat out Chrysler Mini-Van.
You beat a Maxima in a beat up Mini-Van? :what: Sorry, I'm just not going to believe that one. Either he had a major problem or he didn't know that you were racing. Maximas aren't slow.
Yes I think a GSX could take or even beat the Maxima, but it's not going to be by 4 cars or whatever.
TatII
12-26-2002, 01:51 AM
the 4th gen max's are around the same speed as a 4th gen prelude. and the 5th gen maxima's are still faster then most sport compact cars. a early 5th gen can dash from 0-60 in 6.9 seconds, and can runt he quarter in like 15.2. now thats with the VQ30DE and a 5 speed. now if you compare yourself to a 2k2 and 2k3 fifth gen. those runs on a VQ35DE with 255hp on a car that weights 3200. and that car can run 0-60 in 6 flat and run the quarter in 14.7 that is faster then any stock eclipse out. and faster then any stock DSM period. and why dont' you GSX guys race the 5 or 6 speed max from a roll. all of the sudden your AWD is just dead weight and added powertrain lose. and polygon, most people dont' max's in manuel. those are pretty rare cars on its own. most people buy maximas to cruise and it is sort of luxury. so most maxima's you see are auto. and there is a hugh and i mean hugh difference in speed between a auto and a 5 speed max. the auto max is ussually around 1 second slower then a manuel max.
SledgehammerVette
12-26-2002, 09:45 AM
Originally posted by TatII
the 4th gen max's are around the same speed as a 4th gen prelude. and the 5th gen maxima's are still faster then most sport compact cars. a early 5th gen can dash from 0-60 in 6.9 seconds, and can runt he quarter in like 15.2. now thats with the VQ30DE and a 5 speed. now if you compare yourself to a 2k2 and 2k3 fifth gen. those runs on a VQ35DE with 255hp on a car that weights 3200. and that car can run 0-60 in 6 flat and run the quarter in 14.7 that is faster then any stock eclipse out. and faster then any stock DSM period. and why dont' you GSX guys race the 5 or 6 speed max from a roll. all of the sudden your AWD is just dead weight and added powertrain lose. and polygon, most people dont' max's in manuel. those are pretty rare cars on its own. most people buy maximas to cruise and it is sort of luxury. so most maxima's you see are auto. and there is a hugh and i mean hugh difference in speed between a auto and a 5 speed max. the auto max is ussually around 1 second slower then a manuel max.
Very well put! From a roll the Maxima will own the DSM. From a stand still the DSM will have a better chance, but the Max will probably pull pretty damn hard. The 95-99 Max's don't have the greatest top end because they don't have a VI. But if you ever run across a modded Maxima, be careful they may have a MEVI (Middle Eastern Variable Intake), which gives tons of power on the top end.
Both cars are pretty equally matched. If the guy knows how to drive his GSX, he will beat or hang with the Maxima. But if you have a good driver in the Maxima, it's going to be over from the start.
the 4th gen max's are around the same speed as a 4th gen prelude. and the 5th gen maxima's are still faster then most sport compact cars. a early 5th gen can dash from 0-60 in 6.9 seconds, and can runt he quarter in like 15.2. now thats with the VQ30DE and a 5 speed. now if you compare yourself to a 2k2 and 2k3 fifth gen. those runs on a VQ35DE with 255hp on a car that weights 3200. and that car can run 0-60 in 6 flat and run the quarter in 14.7 that is faster then any stock eclipse out. and faster then any stock DSM period. and why dont' you GSX guys race the 5 or 6 speed max from a roll. all of the sudden your AWD is just dead weight and added powertrain lose. and polygon, most people dont' max's in manuel. those are pretty rare cars on its own. most people buy maximas to cruise and it is sort of luxury. so most maxima's you see are auto. and there is a hugh and i mean hugh difference in speed between a auto and a 5 speed max. the auto max is ussually around 1 second slower then a manuel max.
Very well put! From a roll the Maxima will own the DSM. From a stand still the DSM will have a better chance, but the Max will probably pull pretty damn hard. The 95-99 Max's don't have the greatest top end because they don't have a VI. But if you ever run across a modded Maxima, be careful they may have a MEVI (Middle Eastern Variable Intake), which gives tons of power on the top end.
Both cars are pretty equally matched. If the guy knows how to drive his GSX, he will beat or hang with the Maxima. But if you have a good driver in the Maxima, it's going to be over from the start.
Polygon
12-26-2002, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by SledgehammerVette
You beat a Maxima in a beat up Mini-Van? :what: Sorry, I'm just not going to believe that one. Either he had a major problem or he didn't know that you were racing. Maximas aren't slow.
Yes I think a GSX could take or even beat the Maxima, but it's not going to be by 4 cars or whatever.
So, I never asked you to believe me, I really don't care if you do or not. Trust me, he was racing though, he has that engine pushing all it had. Low to mid 90s Maximas are slow. I am not saying the new ones aren't, I know they can get up and move.
You beat a Maxima in a beat up Mini-Van? :what: Sorry, I'm just not going to believe that one. Either he had a major problem or he didn't know that you were racing. Maximas aren't slow.
Yes I think a GSX could take or even beat the Maxima, but it's not going to be by 4 cars or whatever.
So, I never asked you to believe me, I really don't care if you do or not. Trust me, he was racing though, he has that engine pushing all it had. Low to mid 90s Maximas are slow. I am not saying the new ones aren't, I know they can get up and move.
totallyEclipsed
01-03-2003, 08:05 AM
eclipse 0 to 60 mph 6.5 sec
1/4 mile (E.T.) 15.1 sec
maxima 0-60 MPH 7.5 Seconds
1/4 mile (E.T.) 16.0 seconds 89.5 mph
Top speed 120 mph
here are tge stock maxima stats
Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price $ 23,499
Price As Tested $ 28,036
Engine Type DOHC 24-valve 3.0 Liter V6 w/SMFI*
Engine Size 182 cid/2988 cc
Horsepower 190 @ 5600 RPM
Torque (lb-ft) 205 @ 4000 RPM
Wheelbase/Width/Length 106.3"/69.7"/189.4"
Transmission Five-speed manual
Curb Weight 3038 pounds
Fuel Capacity 18.5 gallons
Tires (F/R) 215/55R16 All-Season
Brakes (F/R) Disc /disc
Drive Train Front-engine/front-wheel-drive
Vehicle Type Five-passenger/four-door
Domestic Content N/A
Coefficient of Drag (Cd.) 0.32
PERFORMANCE
EPA Economy, miles per gallon
city/highway/average 22/27/26
0-60 MPH 7.5 Seconds
1/4 mile (E.T.) 16.0 seconds 89.5 mph
Top speed 120 mph
* Sequential multi-point fuel injection
and here is for the eclipse
SPECIFICATIONS
Base Price $ 26,550
Price As Tested $ 27,055
Engine Type 16-valve dual overhead cam
turbocharged 4-cylinder
Engine Size 2.0 liters / 122 cu. in.
Horsepower 210 @ 6000 rpm
Torque (lb-ft) 214 @ 3000 rpm
Transmission 5-speed manual
Wheelbase / Length 98.8 in. / 172.4 in.
Curb Weight 3157 lbs.
Pounds Per Horsepower 15.0
Fuel Capacity 15.9 gal.
Fuel Requirement unleaded premium (91 octane)
Tires P215 / 50 VR17 Goodyear Eagle RS-A
Brakes, front/rear vented disc / disc, antilock standard
Suspension, front/rear independent multi-link with coil springs/
independent multi-link with coil springs
Drivetrain front engine, all-wheel drive
PERFORMANCE
EPA Fuel Economy - miles per gallon
city / highway / observed 21 / 28 / 23
0 to 60 mph 6.5 sec
1/4 mile (E.T.) 15.1 sec
Coefficient of Drag (cd) 0.30
who would win stock? you tell me
1/4 mile (E.T.) 15.1 sec
maxima 0-60 MPH 7.5 Seconds
1/4 mile (E.T.) 16.0 seconds 89.5 mph
Top speed 120 mph
here are tge stock maxima stats
Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price $ 23,499
Price As Tested $ 28,036
Engine Type DOHC 24-valve 3.0 Liter V6 w/SMFI*
Engine Size 182 cid/2988 cc
Horsepower 190 @ 5600 RPM
Torque (lb-ft) 205 @ 4000 RPM
Wheelbase/Width/Length 106.3"/69.7"/189.4"
Transmission Five-speed manual
Curb Weight 3038 pounds
Fuel Capacity 18.5 gallons
Tires (F/R) 215/55R16 All-Season
Brakes (F/R) Disc /disc
Drive Train Front-engine/front-wheel-drive
Vehicle Type Five-passenger/four-door
Domestic Content N/A
Coefficient of Drag (Cd.) 0.32
PERFORMANCE
EPA Economy, miles per gallon
city/highway/average 22/27/26
0-60 MPH 7.5 Seconds
1/4 mile (E.T.) 16.0 seconds 89.5 mph
Top speed 120 mph
* Sequential multi-point fuel injection
and here is for the eclipse
SPECIFICATIONS
Base Price $ 26,550
Price As Tested $ 27,055
Engine Type 16-valve dual overhead cam
turbocharged 4-cylinder
Engine Size 2.0 liters / 122 cu. in.
Horsepower 210 @ 6000 rpm
Torque (lb-ft) 214 @ 3000 rpm
Transmission 5-speed manual
Wheelbase / Length 98.8 in. / 172.4 in.
Curb Weight 3157 lbs.
Pounds Per Horsepower 15.0
Fuel Capacity 15.9 gal.
Fuel Requirement unleaded premium (91 octane)
Tires P215 / 50 VR17 Goodyear Eagle RS-A
Brakes, front/rear vented disc / disc, antilock standard
Suspension, front/rear independent multi-link with coil springs/
independent multi-link with coil springs
Drivetrain front engine, all-wheel drive
PERFORMANCE
EPA Fuel Economy - miles per gallon
city / highway / observed 21 / 28 / 23
0 to 60 mph 6.5 sec
1/4 mile (E.T.) 15.1 sec
Coefficient of Drag (cd) 0.30
who would win stock? you tell me
TatII
01-04-2003, 01:10 AM
your comparing it to the 4th gen maxima's. even though those aren't slow but they are slow compared to the 3.5 liter 5th gen max's. and like i said. even though the stock eclipse numbers are impressive, a stock 5th gen max will beat the eclipse by a good amount. maybe around 4 cars. casue its still .5 seconds faster to 60 and on the 1/4.
SledgehammerVette
01-04-2003, 10:47 AM
Sorry a 4th Gen does not do 0-60 in 7.5 and does not do the 1/4 mile in 16.0. That is the worst time I have ever seen. Did you pull this out of a magazine? Who gives a shit about magazine racing, it you want to race the Maxima, go and do it, if you lose you lose, if you win you win.
Like I said earlier a 4th Gen will do 0-60 in about 6.5-7.0.
1/4 mile ranges from 14.7-15.3 (both auto and 5-spd).
A 4th Gen 5-Spd and an Eclipse GSX will be close no doubt about it. Even a 5th Gen (2000-01) and Eclipse GSX will be close. But a GSX against a 5th Gen (2002-03), will get raped badly. The GSX may get it off the line, but the 5th Gen has so much power he'll be by you before you can say holy shit.
Like I said earlier a 4th Gen will do 0-60 in about 6.5-7.0.
1/4 mile ranges from 14.7-15.3 (both auto and 5-spd).
A 4th Gen 5-Spd and an Eclipse GSX will be close no doubt about it. Even a 5th Gen (2000-01) and Eclipse GSX will be close. But a GSX against a 5th Gen (2002-03), will get raped badly. The GSX may get it off the line, but the 5th Gen has so much power he'll be by you before you can say holy shit.
BlOOe46
01-04-2003, 03:54 PM
lol . . .
i dont think anyone, including myself, has ever said 'holy shit' about a maxima's acceleration before - could be wrong tho???:rolleyes:
i dont think anyone, including myself, has ever said 'holy shit' about a maxima's acceleration before - could be wrong tho???:rolleyes:
SledgehammerVette
01-05-2003, 04:42 PM
If he blows by you he'll be saying it.
Or step into a turbocharged Max then see what comes out of your mouth. :rolleyes:
Or step into a turbocharged Max then see what comes out of your mouth. :rolleyes:
BlOOe46
01-05-2003, 10:59 PM
sorry, ive never been impressed by a max :rolleyes:
u can turbocharge just about anything with even remotely strong internals, it doesnt necesarrily mean the cars going to be fast or reliable
personally, ive never seen a FI max, all the maxes ive seen are 15-16 second cars . . . if u want to modify a max, more power to u . . . but ive just never seen a huge aftermarket response to maxs besides CAI, headers, exhaust - all the poser goodies, oh yeah, dont forget clear corners and fog lights, now automatically their car is fast
if u or any of ur friends has a HO max, thats cool, cuz thats a new thing for me . . . im just sort of taking a cheap swing at all the maxs i see that want to be fast, they are to an extent, but ive never had one make me say 'holy shit' before
btw . . . i only really say holy shit if theres something rare on the road, which is hardly ever, i mean, it really takes a lot for me to say holy shit
the last time i said holy shit about a car, i remember, was when i saw a high 13 sec f350 running with a lightning, now that was some drag race
u can turbocharge just about anything with even remotely strong internals, it doesnt necesarrily mean the cars going to be fast or reliable
personally, ive never seen a FI max, all the maxes ive seen are 15-16 second cars . . . if u want to modify a max, more power to u . . . but ive just never seen a huge aftermarket response to maxs besides CAI, headers, exhaust - all the poser goodies, oh yeah, dont forget clear corners and fog lights, now automatically their car is fast
if u or any of ur friends has a HO max, thats cool, cuz thats a new thing for me . . . im just sort of taking a cheap swing at all the maxs i see that want to be fast, they are to an extent, but ive never had one make me say 'holy shit' before
btw . . . i only really say holy shit if theres something rare on the road, which is hardly ever, i mean, it really takes a lot for me to say holy shit
the last time i said holy shit about a car, i remember, was when i saw a high 13 sec f350 running with a lightning, now that was some drag race
TatII
01-05-2003, 11:37 PM
well i've never said a max will make anyone say holy shit. but a facts a fact manuel stock 5 speed maxima's *late models* are faster then any eclipse. and another thing i found out today while skimming through pages of motortrend. a new 03 altima with full leather interior with the new revised 245hp engine did 0-60 in 5.95 seconds and cleared the quarter in 14.4 seconds. and thats with a full leather interior sunroof and everything. imagine a striped base model 3.5 SE it will hit 5.85 maybe. motortrend said that it was the fastest front wheel drive car they have ever tested. and the maximas are only a tad bit slower then the altima.
KrNxRaCer00
01-06-2003, 03:51 PM
how are u going to say that a car that has the stats of 190/200, an weighs in at over 3000 lbs, is going to run a 14.7? ur saying with those stats, it can run the same time as a STOCK integra type r? NO way. im not saying the new ones' aren't fast, but an gen before then, NO WAY is it running a 14.7 stock...the integra type r has MORE power, an weighs almost 1000 lbs less. yet, it can only run the 1/4 in 14.7? don't even gimme torque as an excuse, because look at the S2000, compared to the GT mustang. the S2000 will run circles around it, with 100 lbs less torque. sorry, but jus cuz u like a car, doesn' tmean u gotta stand up an make ish up. if u really think thats the numbers it pushes, then cool, wuteva, but listen/read the stats. its really tough to believe.
SledgehammerVette
01-06-2003, 06:33 PM
Yes I like the car and I'm sticking up for it. But I am also posting facts not bullshit. A 5-spd with a good driver can do it. Do a search on Maxima.org and you should be able to find a slip, then again if you don't want to I don't care I know what I read on other boards.
You don't have to believe it, but it has happened.
You don't have to believe it, but it has happened.
KrNxRaCer00
01-06-2003, 10:48 PM
im not gonna get into a flame match w/ u, cuz it doesn't sound like that's wut u want, but sorta looks headed that way. anyways, don't believe all u see on the net man. u kno how easy it is to manipulate a slip in photoshop? all im sayin is that a car, with the STOCK numbers, would be VERY hard pressed to run that. for now, i simply couldn't believe a time like that, unless mod's/weight reduction were done.
TatII
01-07-2003, 01:12 AM
well i never though 4th gen max's were that quick. but they should be able to hang with a 4th gen prelude v tec. that is until you guys start puttin in mods. with I/H/E a max can gain almost 30hp at the wheels while the prelude can gain like 12 and thats when the prelude will get left in the dust.
BlOOe46
01-07-2003, 12:19 PM
prelude eh?
refer to my signature to my views on this
refer to my signature to my views on this
bk2kmax
01-07-2003, 02:54 PM
I tell you what Bloo or blue whatever your name is you bring that lil Bimma 325 to NC and I'll hand your @$$ to you on a platter and you will be feeling blue.
325 Bimmas are overrated, you pay about 7 to 10 g's more for it than a Max and it's the Max is faster, bigger (roomy) and the reliability for our car is as good as your slow @$$ bimmer.
So don't talk trash, cause unless you got some mods (which is what it'll take for your slow a$$ car to beat a Max) don't try to put down the Max or I'll make that overpriced piece of car you got wish it had a real 6 cylinder engine like the VQ30 (Ward's Ten Best List 8 years and running).
I raced my friends 325 BM and he was overly impressed the way I spanked him 5 of the 5 times we raced, we were both stock and auto and I just $hit all over him by more than 4 cars. Get your stuff straight because you can't BS us on this forum.
SledehammerVette is right, he knows his $hiznit, anyway don't go jumping on the bandwagon against the Max just because your own this Eclipse forum, these guys respect the Max, why else would they be comparing a turbo'd sportcoupe to a family car, grocery getter, sleeper sedan in the first place.
It takes a lot of mods or turbo/sc or nitrous for your Bimmer to get close to the Max so take your BM to the gym and add some mods before you go hatin on the Max.:finger: :flipa: :devil:
325 Bimmas are overrated, you pay about 7 to 10 g's more for it than a Max and it's the Max is faster, bigger (roomy) and the reliability for our car is as good as your slow @$$ bimmer.
So don't talk trash, cause unless you got some mods (which is what it'll take for your slow a$$ car to beat a Max) don't try to put down the Max or I'll make that overpriced piece of car you got wish it had a real 6 cylinder engine like the VQ30 (Ward's Ten Best List 8 years and running).
I raced my friends 325 BM and he was overly impressed the way I spanked him 5 of the 5 times we raced, we were both stock and auto and I just $hit all over him by more than 4 cars. Get your stuff straight because you can't BS us on this forum.
SledehammerVette is right, he knows his $hiznit, anyway don't go jumping on the bandwagon against the Max just because your own this Eclipse forum, these guys respect the Max, why else would they be comparing a turbo'd sportcoupe to a family car, grocery getter, sleeper sedan in the first place.
It takes a lot of mods or turbo/sc or nitrous for your Bimmer to get close to the Max so take your BM to the gym and add some mods before you go hatin on the Max.:finger: :flipa: :devil:
TatII
01-07-2003, 11:04 PM
whoa thats alot of anger in that one. anyways, i don't think blooe is sayin that his bimmer is faster then a max, hes probrably just sayin that a speed eclipse will be faster then a 5 speed max or a 6 speed max when in reality it is not. and if you compare the GSX to the 2K3 ones the GSX woudlnt' even come close.
BlOOe46
01-08-2003, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by bk2kmax
I tell you what Bloo or blue whatever your name is you bring that lil Bimma 325 to NC and I'll hand your @$$ to you on a platter and you will be feeling blue.
325 Bimmas are overrated, you pay about 7 to 10 g's more for it than a Max and it's the Max is faster, bigger (roomy) and the reliability for our car is as good as your slow @$$ bimmer.
So don't talk trash, cause unless you got some mods (which is what it'll take for your slow a$$ car to beat a Max) don't try to put down the Max or I'll make that overpriced piece of car you got wish it had a real 6 cylinder engine like the VQ30 (Ward's Ten Best List 8 years and running).
I raced my friends 325 BM and he was overly impressed the way I spanked him 5 of the 5 times we raced, we were both stock and auto and I just $hit all over him by more than 4 cars. Get your stuff straight because you can't BS us on this forum.
SledehammerVette is right, he knows his $hiznit, anyway don't go jumping on the bandwagon against the Max just because your own this Eclipse forum, these guys respect the Max, why else would they be comparing a turbo'd sportcoupe to a family car, grocery getter, sleeper sedan in the first place.
It takes a lot of mods or turbo/sc or nitrous for your Bimmer to get close to the Max so take your BM to the gym and add some mods before you go hatin on the Max.:finger: :flipa: :devil:
did i ever say my car was a race car???
no
did i ever even once mention my car???
no
was it my decision to buy this car???
no
will i hand u ur ass once i can get my e30 m3???
most definitely
the fact is, i dont turn every car that i buy into a disgraceful platter of rice, its just stupid of u to think the reason i bought my car was to race stupid guys with severe cases of roadrage and uptightness about their cars . . .
I tell you what Bloo or blue whatever your name is you bring that lil Bimma 325 to NC and I'll hand your @$$ to you on a platter and you will be feeling blue.
325 Bimmas are overrated, you pay about 7 to 10 g's more for it than a Max and it's the Max is faster, bigger (roomy) and the reliability for our car is as good as your slow @$$ bimmer.
So don't talk trash, cause unless you got some mods (which is what it'll take for your slow a$$ car to beat a Max) don't try to put down the Max or I'll make that overpriced piece of car you got wish it had a real 6 cylinder engine like the VQ30 (Ward's Ten Best List 8 years and running).
I raced my friends 325 BM and he was overly impressed the way I spanked him 5 of the 5 times we raced, we were both stock and auto and I just $hit all over him by more than 4 cars. Get your stuff straight because you can't BS us on this forum.
SledehammerVette is right, he knows his $hiznit, anyway don't go jumping on the bandwagon against the Max just because your own this Eclipse forum, these guys respect the Max, why else would they be comparing a turbo'd sportcoupe to a family car, grocery getter, sleeper sedan in the first place.
It takes a lot of mods or turbo/sc or nitrous for your Bimmer to get close to the Max so take your BM to the gym and add some mods before you go hatin on the Max.:finger: :flipa: :devil:
did i ever say my car was a race car???
no
did i ever even once mention my car???
no
was it my decision to buy this car???
no
will i hand u ur ass once i can get my e30 m3???
most definitely
the fact is, i dont turn every car that i buy into a disgraceful platter of rice, its just stupid of u to think the reason i bought my car was to race stupid guys with severe cases of roadrage and uptightness about their cars . . .
bk2kmax
01-09-2003, 12:15 PM
Originally posted by Zero8985
my eclipse beats an Altima GXE all the time, and if i am right, that should be close to the Maxima SE, and horsepower doesn't mean too much when you have a light car.
Apparently this Zero guy has Zero knowledge of the Maxima if he thinks a 2.4 Altima is close to a Max SE. BTW the Max in that year is only around 3100 lbs which isn't heavy for a 190HP V6.
The nerve of some Noobs.
my eclipse beats an Altima GXE all the time, and if i am right, that should be close to the Maxima SE, and horsepower doesn't mean too much when you have a light car.
Apparently this Zero guy has Zero knowledge of the Maxima if he thinks a 2.4 Altima is close to a Max SE. BTW the Max in that year is only around 3100 lbs which isn't heavy for a 190HP V6.
The nerve of some Noobs.
BlOOe46
01-09-2003, 12:26 PM
Originally posted by TatII
whoa thats alot of anger in that one. anyways, i don't think blooe is sayin that his bimmer is faster then a max, hes probrably just sayin that a speed eclipse will be faster then a 5 speed max or a 6 speed max when in reality it is not. and if you compare the GSX to the 2K3 ones the GSX woudlnt' even come close.
thx for trying to speak for me . . . but i wasnt saying anything about the gsx at all, what im really trying to say is i think people will go around overrating their car, whatever it may be
maxima owners are no different, if bk2k wants to talk about sleeper sedans and trash on BMWs, well, lets talk about the e39 m5, even the e34 . . . the fact is, it doesnt take much to beat my commuter car which is highly overweight and underpowered, but for maxima owners on their high horse, im sure there are plenty of things we can arrange to take care of that :smoker:
whoa thats alot of anger in that one. anyways, i don't think blooe is sayin that his bimmer is faster then a max, hes probrably just sayin that a speed eclipse will be faster then a 5 speed max or a 6 speed max when in reality it is not. and if you compare the GSX to the 2K3 ones the GSX woudlnt' even come close.
thx for trying to speak for me . . . but i wasnt saying anything about the gsx at all, what im really trying to say is i think people will go around overrating their car, whatever it may be
maxima owners are no different, if bk2k wants to talk about sleeper sedans and trash on BMWs, well, lets talk about the e39 m5, even the e34 . . . the fact is, it doesnt take much to beat my commuter car which is highly overweight and underpowered, but for maxima owners on their high horse, im sure there are plenty of things we can arrange to take care of that :smoker:
bk2kmax
01-09-2003, 12:42 PM
Originally posted by BlOOe46
did i ever say my car was a race car???
no
did i ever even once mention my car???
no
was it my decision to buy this car???
no
will i hand u ur ass once i can get my e30 m3???
most definitely
the fact is, i dont turn every car that i buy into a disgraceful platter of rice, its just stupid of u to think the reason i bought my car was to race stupid guys with severe cases of roadrage and uptightness about their cars . . .
I know he wasn't saying his car is faster but his statement was this:
personally, ive never seen a FI max, all the maxes ive seen are 15-16 second cars . . . if u want to modify a max, more power to u . . . but ive just never seen a huge aftermarket response to maxs besides CAI, headers, exhaust - all the poser goodies, oh yeah, dont forget clear corners and fog lights, now automatically their car is fast <quoted from Bloo
I never said your car was a racecar, neither did I say mine is one either, you were dissing the Max and I had to represent. My car is not riced out in any kind of way and you will definitely need an M3 to beat my Max cause that wimpy @$$ 325 is overrated.
BTW you will also be spending alot of cheeze to get the extra HP to be able to beat my Max.
All I have to do is drop in an SC for about 2500K and I'm right in the @$$ of that M3 you just spent 45K plus to have similar performance.
By the way when they drop those new turbos for the 5th Gen be prepared to have your @$$ handed to you by the Max.
FYI there are stock Max's running low 14's.
No one likes to have their car dissed especially by a car that is slower, we never said a few bolt on rice pieces and especially some clear corners are automatically making the Max's fast or any other vehicle for that fact.
It's just a little obvious here that the comparison of a stock car family sedan, grocery getter is being compared to a turbo all wheel drive sport coupe has to say a lot about the kind of respect you got to give in the to even make the comparison in the first place.
My friend has an RSX and I $hitted all over his car everytime we raced, he thought I was turboed or SC'd until I popped the hood and was all stock, so don't give me that an RSX will beat a Max because it won't.
And take the all wheel drive Eclipse against a Max from a roll and the Max will $hit on him as well because you lose the advantage that the awd give you, ask anyone who's not biased about their Eclipse and they will tell you the same thing.
The awd is great from a standstill but start on the roll and it's nothing but added weight. Go ahead and flame on, I have mad respect for the AWD Turbo Eclipse, I'm just stating facts and bringing to light the whole comparison in the first place is a moot point.
For $hit$ and giggles why wasn't this comparison made into StockTurbo AWD Eclipse vs Turbo Max or SC Max, that would be more realistic even though the SC or Turbo Max will $hit all over the Eclipse, this would even up the playing field both being boosted.
FYI Turbo Max's and even SC'd have been known to $hit on Camaros, Stangs and some Supras as well, there's a site with videos of it and I will post the link when I get home, right now I'm at work and don't remember what it is.
To Bloo, just try to have a lil more respect when you start talking about other peoples cars and to that Noob Zero go to Carfacts.com and learn the difference between a 3.0L V6 and a 2.4 4cylinder, no disrespect intended but everyone else here knows you can't compare that older year Altima with the 2.4 to the 3.0L Max, maybe the new Altima with the 3.5 but not the 2.5S.
did i ever say my car was a race car???
no
did i ever even once mention my car???
no
was it my decision to buy this car???
no
will i hand u ur ass once i can get my e30 m3???
most definitely
the fact is, i dont turn every car that i buy into a disgraceful platter of rice, its just stupid of u to think the reason i bought my car was to race stupid guys with severe cases of roadrage and uptightness about their cars . . .
I know he wasn't saying his car is faster but his statement was this:
personally, ive never seen a FI max, all the maxes ive seen are 15-16 second cars . . . if u want to modify a max, more power to u . . . but ive just never seen a huge aftermarket response to maxs besides CAI, headers, exhaust - all the poser goodies, oh yeah, dont forget clear corners and fog lights, now automatically their car is fast <quoted from Bloo
I never said your car was a racecar, neither did I say mine is one either, you were dissing the Max and I had to represent. My car is not riced out in any kind of way and you will definitely need an M3 to beat my Max cause that wimpy @$$ 325 is overrated.
BTW you will also be spending alot of cheeze to get the extra HP to be able to beat my Max.
All I have to do is drop in an SC for about 2500K and I'm right in the @$$ of that M3 you just spent 45K plus to have similar performance.
By the way when they drop those new turbos for the 5th Gen be prepared to have your @$$ handed to you by the Max.
FYI there are stock Max's running low 14's.
No one likes to have their car dissed especially by a car that is slower, we never said a few bolt on rice pieces and especially some clear corners are automatically making the Max's fast or any other vehicle for that fact.
It's just a little obvious here that the comparison of a stock car family sedan, grocery getter is being compared to a turbo all wheel drive sport coupe has to say a lot about the kind of respect you got to give in the to even make the comparison in the first place.
My friend has an RSX and I $hitted all over his car everytime we raced, he thought I was turboed or SC'd until I popped the hood and was all stock, so don't give me that an RSX will beat a Max because it won't.
And take the all wheel drive Eclipse against a Max from a roll and the Max will $hit on him as well because you lose the advantage that the awd give you, ask anyone who's not biased about their Eclipse and they will tell you the same thing.
The awd is great from a standstill but start on the roll and it's nothing but added weight. Go ahead and flame on, I have mad respect for the AWD Turbo Eclipse, I'm just stating facts and bringing to light the whole comparison in the first place is a moot point.
For $hit$ and giggles why wasn't this comparison made into StockTurbo AWD Eclipse vs Turbo Max or SC Max, that would be more realistic even though the SC or Turbo Max will $hit all over the Eclipse, this would even up the playing field both being boosted.
FYI Turbo Max's and even SC'd have been known to $hit on Camaros, Stangs and some Supras as well, there's a site with videos of it and I will post the link when I get home, right now I'm at work and don't remember what it is.
To Bloo, just try to have a lil more respect when you start talking about other peoples cars and to that Noob Zero go to Carfacts.com and learn the difference between a 3.0L V6 and a 2.4 4cylinder, no disrespect intended but everyone else here knows you can't compare that older year Altima with the 2.4 to the 3.0L Max, maybe the new Altima with the 3.5 but not the 2.5S.
deadmeat521
01-09-2003, 12:52 PM
i have raced an eclispe from 70 punch and smoked to 130 when i shut it down (wife was bitchin i was going to fast)
bk2kmax
01-09-2003, 01:11 PM
Originally posted by BlOOe46
thx for trying to speak for me . . . but i wasnt saying anything about the gsx at all, what im really trying to say is i think people will go around overrating their car, whatever it may be
maxima owners are no different, if bk2k wants to talk about sleeper sedans and trash on BMWs, well, lets talk about the e39 m5, even the e34 . . . the fact is, it doesnt take much to beat my commuter car which is highly overweight and underpowered, but for maxima owners on their high horse, im sure there are plenty of things we can arrange to take care of that :smoker:
First off, I'm never on a high horse, you don't know me well enough to say that, second you started this whether you noticed it or not.
I wasn't talking trash, you started the mess with that crappy statement about adding a few rice pieces and some clear corner garbage and automatically we (Max or Japanese vehicles) think we're fast.
When I did bash, I only bashed on your particular model, not BMW's in general. As far as sleeper's the cars you mentioned aren't even in that category, an M5 is not a sleeper, people who buy that kind of car know as well as the rest of the auto enthusiast what that car is capable of.
I was stating the obvious, yes it doesn't take much to beat a 325 but I resented the fact that you were putting down our car and yours is slower.
So imagine that you are saying that the Max isn't fast or it is slow, What does that make your car?
I'm certain there are a lot of things that you can do to your car to make it faster than the Max, the obvious focal point of this thread was lost and one of the points was the comparison being made of a Turbo car to a stock car, so all I was stating in comparison of your car stock to mine is a no contest.
Take it for what it's worth, you started it and I was adding constructive and no matter how angry or disrespectful you thought I was getting, accurate critique as well.
I don't bother about the anger, I didn't get angry, I represented, which is what anyone on any of these forums will do when you disrespect their vehicle as you did to us (Max owner's).
thx for trying to speak for me . . . but i wasnt saying anything about the gsx at all, what im really trying to say is i think people will go around overrating their car, whatever it may be
maxima owners are no different, if bk2k wants to talk about sleeper sedans and trash on BMWs, well, lets talk about the e39 m5, even the e34 . . . the fact is, it doesnt take much to beat my commuter car which is highly overweight and underpowered, but for maxima owners on their high horse, im sure there are plenty of things we can arrange to take care of that :smoker:
First off, I'm never on a high horse, you don't know me well enough to say that, second you started this whether you noticed it or not.
I wasn't talking trash, you started the mess with that crappy statement about adding a few rice pieces and some clear corner garbage and automatically we (Max or Japanese vehicles) think we're fast.
When I did bash, I only bashed on your particular model, not BMW's in general. As far as sleeper's the cars you mentioned aren't even in that category, an M5 is not a sleeper, people who buy that kind of car know as well as the rest of the auto enthusiast what that car is capable of.
I was stating the obvious, yes it doesn't take much to beat a 325 but I resented the fact that you were putting down our car and yours is slower.
So imagine that you are saying that the Max isn't fast or it is slow, What does that make your car?
I'm certain there are a lot of things that you can do to your car to make it faster than the Max, the obvious focal point of this thread was lost and one of the points was the comparison being made of a Turbo car to a stock car, so all I was stating in comparison of your car stock to mine is a no contest.
Take it for what it's worth, you started it and I was adding constructive and no matter how angry or disrespectful you thought I was getting, accurate critique as well.
I don't bother about the anger, I didn't get angry, I represented, which is what anyone on any of these forums will do when you disrespect their vehicle as you did to us (Max owner's).
BlOOe46
01-10-2003, 08:20 AM
I wasn't talking trash, you started the mess with that crappy statement about adding a few rice pieces and some clear corner garbage and automatically we (Max or Japanese vehicles) think we're fast.
whether u like that statement or not, i personally know these types of "modders" who run around talking about the gayest import "speed" shops that will absolutely rip people off if they dont know what theyre in for :rolleyes:
As far as sleeper's the cars you mentioned aren't even in that category, an M5 is not a sleeper, people who buy that kind of car know as well as the rest of the auto enthusiast what that car is capable of.
Not a sleeper car? do u know the definition of a sleeper car? the m5 is always referred to as a "wolf in sheeps clothing" - do u know why? stock outside appearance, that constitutes a sleeper car, ive seen people rebadge their m5s as 528i
I was stating the obvious, yes it doesn't take much to beat a 325 but I resented the fact that you were putting down our car and yours is slower.So imagine that you are saying that the Max isn't fast or it is slow, What does that make your car?
Obviously what ive been stating all along, i dont know why my car got dragged into this in the first place, i refer to it as a commuter car, and as such, i dont expect it to have any speed whatsoever, it is a refined drive with good gas mileage and a good awd system for the cold weather and icey conditions we get around here, nothing more nothing less
I'm certain there are a lot of things that you can do to your car to make it faster than the Max, the obvious focal point of this thread was lost and one of the points was the comparison being made of a Turbo car to a stock car, so all I was stating in comparison of your car stock to mine is a no contest.
No shit, i was simply stating the things ive seen of local maximas and the posers who drive them/ overrate them to be something they werent. BTW - how many times are u going to keep bringing my car up? its obviously not fast, and im not even talking about racing a *gasp* maxima, the fact that u keep bringing it up makes me think u might be a little insecure about ur cars performance :bloated:
meh, i guess thats all i have for now . . . feel free to continue this discussion b2k :D ;)
whether u like that statement or not, i personally know these types of "modders" who run around talking about the gayest import "speed" shops that will absolutely rip people off if they dont know what theyre in for :rolleyes:
As far as sleeper's the cars you mentioned aren't even in that category, an M5 is not a sleeper, people who buy that kind of car know as well as the rest of the auto enthusiast what that car is capable of.
Not a sleeper car? do u know the definition of a sleeper car? the m5 is always referred to as a "wolf in sheeps clothing" - do u know why? stock outside appearance, that constitutes a sleeper car, ive seen people rebadge their m5s as 528i
I was stating the obvious, yes it doesn't take much to beat a 325 but I resented the fact that you were putting down our car and yours is slower.So imagine that you are saying that the Max isn't fast or it is slow, What does that make your car?
Obviously what ive been stating all along, i dont know why my car got dragged into this in the first place, i refer to it as a commuter car, and as such, i dont expect it to have any speed whatsoever, it is a refined drive with good gas mileage and a good awd system for the cold weather and icey conditions we get around here, nothing more nothing less
I'm certain there are a lot of things that you can do to your car to make it faster than the Max, the obvious focal point of this thread was lost and one of the points was the comparison being made of a Turbo car to a stock car, so all I was stating in comparison of your car stock to mine is a no contest.
No shit, i was simply stating the things ive seen of local maximas and the posers who drive them/ overrate them to be something they werent. BTW - how many times are u going to keep bringing my car up? its obviously not fast, and im not even talking about racing a *gasp* maxima, the fact that u keep bringing it up makes me think u might be a little insecure about ur cars performance :bloated:
meh, i guess thats all i have for now . . . feel free to continue this discussion b2k :D ;)
bk2kmax
01-10-2003, 09:41 PM
Originally posted by BlOOe46
No shit, i was simply stating the things ive seen of local maximas and the posers who drive them/ overrate them to be something they werent. BTW - how many times are u going to keep bringing my car up? its obviously not fast, and im not even talking about racing a *gasp* maxima, the fact that u keep bringing it up makes me think u might be a little insecure about ur cars performance :bloated:
meh, i guess thats all i have for now . . . feel free to continue this discussion b2k :D ;)
As a matter of fact I will continue this discussion, when you spoke about cars adding a few pieces and automatically we're fast you were generalizing and not specific, therefore, I thought you were referring to all Max owners in general, that's why I started in on your car.
As far as wolves in sheep's clothing (M5), if you notice I put auto enthusiast (people who know cars) to us it's not a wolf in sheep's clothing but rather a well dressed beast with the heart(engine) of a cheetah, you got no disrespect from me on a M5 and neither on a 325.
I know that the 325 is a reliable well tuned car, I was only making the speed comparo because I felt you were generalizing all Max's in your statement about adding clear corners and other mods and all of a sudden we're fast.
As far as me keep bringing up my car and being insecure about its' performance, it is the total opposite as you should be able to obviously tell by the challenge I offered you to bring your BM to NC. Again No disrespect, I just felt like you were dissin the Max and that's why I made the challenge.
I know my car isn't the fastest on the road or anything like that, it's just when you post, maybe you ought to consider everyone and not generalize, this way no one has to stand up for their brand or make, in other words, be a lil bit more specific about who you're talking about.
That's all I have for now.
No shit, i was simply stating the things ive seen of local maximas and the posers who drive them/ overrate them to be something they werent. BTW - how many times are u going to keep bringing my car up? its obviously not fast, and im not even talking about racing a *gasp* maxima, the fact that u keep bringing it up makes me think u might be a little insecure about ur cars performance :bloated:
meh, i guess thats all i have for now . . . feel free to continue this discussion b2k :D ;)
As a matter of fact I will continue this discussion, when you spoke about cars adding a few pieces and automatically we're fast you were generalizing and not specific, therefore, I thought you were referring to all Max owners in general, that's why I started in on your car.
As far as wolves in sheep's clothing (M5), if you notice I put auto enthusiast (people who know cars) to us it's not a wolf in sheep's clothing but rather a well dressed beast with the heart(engine) of a cheetah, you got no disrespect from me on a M5 and neither on a 325.
I know that the 325 is a reliable well tuned car, I was only making the speed comparo because I felt you were generalizing all Max's in your statement about adding clear corners and other mods and all of a sudden we're fast.
As far as me keep bringing up my car and being insecure about its' performance, it is the total opposite as you should be able to obviously tell by the challenge I offered you to bring your BM to NC. Again No disrespect, I just felt like you were dissin the Max and that's why I made the challenge.
I know my car isn't the fastest on the road or anything like that, it's just when you post, maybe you ought to consider everyone and not generalize, this way no one has to stand up for their brand or make, in other words, be a lil bit more specific about who you're talking about.
That's all I have for now.
KrNxRaCer00
01-10-2003, 10:12 PM
Originally posted by bk2kmax
I never said your car was a racecar, neither did I say mine is one either, you were dissing the Max and I had to represent. My car is not riced out in any kind of way and you will definitely need an M3 to beat my Max cause that wimpy @$$ 325 is overrated.
BTW you will also be spending alot of cheeze to get the extra HP to be able to beat my Max.
All I have to do is drop in an SC for about 2500K and I'm right in the @$$ of that M3 you just spent 45K plus to have similar performance.
By the way when they drop those new turbos for the 5th Gen be prepared to have your @$$ handed to you by the Max.
FYI there are stock Max's running low 14's.
No one likes to have their car dissed especially by a car that is slower, we never said a few bolt on rice pieces and especially some clear corners are automatically making the Max's fast or any other vehicle for that fact.
It's just a little obvious here that the comparison of a stock car family sedan, grocery getter is being compared to a turbo all wheel drive sport coupe has to say a lot about the kind of respect you got to give in the to even make the comparison in the first place.
My friend has an RSX and I $hitted all over his car everytime we raced, he thought I was turboed or SC'd until I popped the hood and was all stock, so don't give me that an RSX will beat a Max because it won't.
And take the all wheel drive Eclipse against a Max from a roll and the Max will $hit on him as well because you lose the advantage that the awd give you, ask anyone who's not biased about their Eclipse and they will tell you the same thing.
The awd is great from a standstill but start on the roll and it's nothing but added weight. Go ahead and flame on, I have mad respect for the AWD Turbo Eclipse, I'm just stating facts and bringing to light the whole comparison in the first place is a moot point.
For $hit$ and giggles why wasn't this comparison made into StockTurbo AWD Eclipse vs Turbo Max or SC Max, that would be more realistic even though the SC or Turbo Max will $hit all over the Eclipse, this would even up the playing field both being boosted.
FYI Turbo Max's and even SC'd have been known to $hit on Camaros, Stangs and some Supras as well, there's a site with videos of it and I will post the link when I get home, right now I'm at work and don't remember what it is.
To Bloo, just try to have a lil more respect when you start talking about other peoples cars and to that Noob Zero go to Carfacts.com and learn the difference between a 3.0L V6 and a 2.4 4cylinder, no disrespect intended but everyone else here knows you can't compare that older year Altima with the 2.4 to the 3.0L Max, maybe the new Altima with the 3.5 but not the 2.5S.
man...wuts with u an shittin on things? j/k...well sorry man, but u can't bring in the arguement about putting only $2500 into ur car and being quick, cuz i could go out an get a 93 civic hatchy for 4k, take the extra 10k (the 2000 maxima's sell for around 14-15k now don't they? j/w) an build another "grocery-getter" from the ground an absolutly DESTROY ur maxima. i understand that u have pride in ur car, but saying it is a cheap car to make fast? i dunno...i will agree w/ the fact that most bmi 3's are slow (not the M3), but still, i gotta get my .02 in here.
ps. ur prolly gonna say that ur maxima can "shit on my car" but u can think wut u want. if it makes u feel better to think ur car is faster than somone else online...then more power to u
:D
I never said your car was a racecar, neither did I say mine is one either, you were dissing the Max and I had to represent. My car is not riced out in any kind of way and you will definitely need an M3 to beat my Max cause that wimpy @$$ 325 is overrated.
BTW you will also be spending alot of cheeze to get the extra HP to be able to beat my Max.
All I have to do is drop in an SC for about 2500K and I'm right in the @$$ of that M3 you just spent 45K plus to have similar performance.
By the way when they drop those new turbos for the 5th Gen be prepared to have your @$$ handed to you by the Max.
FYI there are stock Max's running low 14's.
No one likes to have their car dissed especially by a car that is slower, we never said a few bolt on rice pieces and especially some clear corners are automatically making the Max's fast or any other vehicle for that fact.
It's just a little obvious here that the comparison of a stock car family sedan, grocery getter is being compared to a turbo all wheel drive sport coupe has to say a lot about the kind of respect you got to give in the to even make the comparison in the first place.
My friend has an RSX and I $hitted all over his car everytime we raced, he thought I was turboed or SC'd until I popped the hood and was all stock, so don't give me that an RSX will beat a Max because it won't.
And take the all wheel drive Eclipse against a Max from a roll and the Max will $hit on him as well because you lose the advantage that the awd give you, ask anyone who's not biased about their Eclipse and they will tell you the same thing.
The awd is great from a standstill but start on the roll and it's nothing but added weight. Go ahead and flame on, I have mad respect for the AWD Turbo Eclipse, I'm just stating facts and bringing to light the whole comparison in the first place is a moot point.
For $hit$ and giggles why wasn't this comparison made into StockTurbo AWD Eclipse vs Turbo Max or SC Max, that would be more realistic even though the SC or Turbo Max will $hit all over the Eclipse, this would even up the playing field both being boosted.
FYI Turbo Max's and even SC'd have been known to $hit on Camaros, Stangs and some Supras as well, there's a site with videos of it and I will post the link when I get home, right now I'm at work and don't remember what it is.
To Bloo, just try to have a lil more respect when you start talking about other peoples cars and to that Noob Zero go to Carfacts.com and learn the difference between a 3.0L V6 and a 2.4 4cylinder, no disrespect intended but everyone else here knows you can't compare that older year Altima with the 2.4 to the 3.0L Max, maybe the new Altima with the 3.5 but not the 2.5S.
man...wuts with u an shittin on things? j/k...well sorry man, but u can't bring in the arguement about putting only $2500 into ur car and being quick, cuz i could go out an get a 93 civic hatchy for 4k, take the extra 10k (the 2000 maxima's sell for around 14-15k now don't they? j/w) an build another "grocery-getter" from the ground an absolutly DESTROY ur maxima. i understand that u have pride in ur car, but saying it is a cheap car to make fast? i dunno...i will agree w/ the fact that most bmi 3's are slow (not the M3), but still, i gotta get my .02 in here.
ps. ur prolly gonna say that ur maxima can "shit on my car" but u can think wut u want. if it makes u feel better to think ur car is faster than somone else online...then more power to u
:D
TatII
01-11-2003, 02:13 AM
well most people only put I/H/E on maxima's but they have amazingly good gains from just that. they get around 30hp at the wheels which is impressive stuff and will take a second off the 1/4 mile time. when you put a I/H/E on a typical honda, you getl ike what? 8 hp tot he wheels. big difference.
KrNxRaCer00
01-11-2003, 03:37 AM
i kno...but u can look at it one of two ways.
1. yes it is nice to get those extra numbers from simple bolt-ons.
2. it shows how honda makes their motors. i've posted this before, but if u look at the b' series motors, they are tuned to be pushing the most power possible for their size. so from stock, u'll get less gains, but the stock motor itself is usually a pretty strong base anyways, an so u aren't going to see the gains as much...this isn't tru for all the honda motors tho. i kno the new k' series motors (in rsx/civic si) get gains of around 8hp from a simple cold air intake. u put a cold air intake on a type r, an u'll see MAYBE gains of 2-3hp. it all comes down to the way the motor is built stock.
1. yes it is nice to get those extra numbers from simple bolt-ons.
2. it shows how honda makes their motors. i've posted this before, but if u look at the b' series motors, they are tuned to be pushing the most power possible for their size. so from stock, u'll get less gains, but the stock motor itself is usually a pretty strong base anyways, an so u aren't going to see the gains as much...this isn't tru for all the honda motors tho. i kno the new k' series motors (in rsx/civic si) get gains of around 8hp from a simple cold air intake. u put a cold air intake on a type r, an u'll see MAYBE gains of 2-3hp. it all comes down to the way the motor is built stock.
TatII
01-11-2003, 10:04 AM
yeah i saw the power gains for a K20 that thing gained 22hp from simple bolt ons!! i was like wow, thats like the same kind of gains that a nissan KA block would gain.
flylwsi
01-11-2003, 02:57 PM
this is the biggest waste of a thread.
it's a fuckin flame war. for nothing.
no one has posted consistent weights for the max, so that's kinda in question. it's ranging from 3000 to 3500. big difference.
and who said rwd is the worst platform for traction?
if we're straightlining it, what are you talking about?
how many of the fastest cars in the world... production and purpose built... are rwd.
pretty much all. top fuel drag cars are. most everything in the nhra is. hmm... trend?
why do skyline owners have mods that allow them to switch to rwd from awd? for traction at the drag strip.
why is it better? weight transfer. if you step on the gas, the weight goes to the back of the car. if it's rwd, you're putting weight on the drive wheels, which puts the power down.
and rwd puts 100% power to the ground through the rear wheels. if you have awd, it's putting not 100% to the rears, so you've got a slight disadvantage if you're talking about being the fastest thing in a straight line.
back to the point... hell... even the gst has a quicker time in the 1/4, b/c it's lighter. good point huh? it's not always the traction you have. if you can't get all the power down, and you weigh more, you're not gonna beat me.
it's a fuckin flame war. for nothing.
no one has posted consistent weights for the max, so that's kinda in question. it's ranging from 3000 to 3500. big difference.
and who said rwd is the worst platform for traction?
if we're straightlining it, what are you talking about?
how many of the fastest cars in the world... production and purpose built... are rwd.
pretty much all. top fuel drag cars are. most everything in the nhra is. hmm... trend?
why do skyline owners have mods that allow them to switch to rwd from awd? for traction at the drag strip.
why is it better? weight transfer. if you step on the gas, the weight goes to the back of the car. if it's rwd, you're putting weight on the drive wheels, which puts the power down.
and rwd puts 100% power to the ground through the rear wheels. if you have awd, it's putting not 100% to the rears, so you've got a slight disadvantage if you're talking about being the fastest thing in a straight line.
back to the point... hell... even the gst has a quicker time in the 1/4, b/c it's lighter. good point huh? it's not always the traction you have. if you can't get all the power down, and you weigh more, you're not gonna beat me.
bk2kmax
01-11-2003, 08:48 PM
Originally posted by KrNxRaCer00
man...wuts with u an shittin on things? j/k...well sorry man, but u can't bring in the arguement about putting only $2500 into ur car and being quick, cuz i could go out an get a 93 civic hatchy for 4k, take the extra 10k (the 2000 maxima's sell for around 14-15k now don't they? j/w) an build another "grocery-getter" from the ground an absolutly DESTROY ur maxima. i understand that u have pride in ur car, but saying it is a cheap car to make fast? i dunno...i will agree w/ the fact that most bmi 3's are slow (not the M3), but still, i gotta get my .02 in here.
ps. ur prolly gonna say that ur maxima can "shit on my car" but u can think wut u want. if it makes u feel better to think ur car is faster than somone else online...then more power to u
:D
Of course you can go get your lil civic for 4k, this isn't even about no civic, this is about guys comparing cars in similar classes to the Max.
No one is comparing a lil 4k civic to anything, there's a reason you can afford to do that to your lil 4k civic. First there is a large supply of aftermarket parts for civics because of the popularity of the car being easy to afford and easy to mod.
The Max isn't that kind of car, it is a family car, so your 2 cents doesn't matter here because this was an a & b conversation with me and bloo, so if you don't mind, stay out of it because we're not comparing apples to oranges.
No one ever said that it'll be cheap to make the Max fast, unless you're saying 2,500 is cheap (then okay,rich boy), I was stating that in comparison (only because bloo made the comparo first) I could spend about 2500 or more to mod the Max with an SC and maybe n20 and be as fast as the M3 which cost about 25 to 27k more than a Max. Still this would be cheaper than buying an M3, which I still wouldn't compare to a Max because it is a better car and in a different category, this is why I was comparing the 325 to the Max which is in the same category.
So don't bother with your 2 pennies cause they're not worth anything on this matter.
man...wuts with u an shittin on things? j/k...well sorry man, but u can't bring in the arguement about putting only $2500 into ur car and being quick, cuz i could go out an get a 93 civic hatchy for 4k, take the extra 10k (the 2000 maxima's sell for around 14-15k now don't they? j/w) an build another "grocery-getter" from the ground an absolutly DESTROY ur maxima. i understand that u have pride in ur car, but saying it is a cheap car to make fast? i dunno...i will agree w/ the fact that most bmi 3's are slow (not the M3), but still, i gotta get my .02 in here.
ps. ur prolly gonna say that ur maxima can "shit on my car" but u can think wut u want. if it makes u feel better to think ur car is faster than somone else online...then more power to u
:D
Of course you can go get your lil civic for 4k, this isn't even about no civic, this is about guys comparing cars in similar classes to the Max.
No one is comparing a lil 4k civic to anything, there's a reason you can afford to do that to your lil 4k civic. First there is a large supply of aftermarket parts for civics because of the popularity of the car being easy to afford and easy to mod.
The Max isn't that kind of car, it is a family car, so your 2 cents doesn't matter here because this was an a & b conversation with me and bloo, so if you don't mind, stay out of it because we're not comparing apples to oranges.
No one ever said that it'll be cheap to make the Max fast, unless you're saying 2,500 is cheap (then okay,rich boy), I was stating that in comparison (only because bloo made the comparo first) I could spend about 2500 or more to mod the Max with an SC and maybe n20 and be as fast as the M3 which cost about 25 to 27k more than a Max. Still this would be cheaper than buying an M3, which I still wouldn't compare to a Max because it is a better car and in a different category, this is why I was comparing the 325 to the Max which is in the same category.
So don't bother with your 2 pennies cause they're not worth anything on this matter.
bk2kmax
01-11-2003, 08:59 PM
Originally posted by flylwsi
this is the biggest waste of a thread.
it's a fuckin flame war. for nothing.
no one has posted consistent weights for the max, so that's kinda in question. it's ranging from 3000 to 3500. big difference.
and who said rwd is the worst platform for traction?
if we're straightlining it, what are you talking about?
how many of the fastest cars in the world... production and purpose built... are rwd.
pretty much all. top fuel drag cars are. most everything in the nhra is. hmm... trend?
why do skyline owners have mods that allow them to switch to rwd from awd? for traction at the drag strip.
why is it better? weight transfer. if you step on the gas, the weight goes to the back of the car. if it's rwd, you're putting weight on the drive wheels, which puts the power down.
and rwd puts 100% power to the ground through the rear wheels. if you have awd, it's putting not 100% to the rears, so you've got a slight disadvantage if you're talking about being the fastest thing in a straight line.
back to the point... hell... even the gst has a quicker time in the 1/4, b/c it's lighter. good point huh? it's not always the traction you have. if you can't get all the power down, and you weigh more, you're not gonna beat me.
There are variables in the Max's weight, first off you have to understand that we are talking over the lifetime of the Max, so 1st gen through 6th gen, also consider weight differences due to models and trannies. This is why there are what you consider, inconsistencies.
Find out what specific gens we're speaking about and pick one and you'll get an exact weight for that car from someone who owns that model or gen.
It was never intended to be a flame war, I have mad respect for an individual's auto but if that same person or someone else starts dissin my car, then I'm gonna stand up for my car.
I think it's called pride or brand loyalty, Honda guys love their cars, Mitsubishi guys love their rides and Nissan guys favor their cars. I just don't like it when people start generalizing and thinking everyone with a Japanese auto is riced out just because you own an import from Japan or with a Japanese name. This is what bloo did to get all of this, what you consider flaming started.
I didn't come here to diss people's ride, I came here to talk constructively about car's comparison on performance and soon as I look someone is dissin Japanese car's or the Max in this case, so I did what you or anyone who has a lil pride in their ride would do and that is defend your intellect and reasoning for purchasing that particular model or brand.
this is the biggest waste of a thread.
it's a fuckin flame war. for nothing.
no one has posted consistent weights for the max, so that's kinda in question. it's ranging from 3000 to 3500. big difference.
and who said rwd is the worst platform for traction?
if we're straightlining it, what are you talking about?
how many of the fastest cars in the world... production and purpose built... are rwd.
pretty much all. top fuel drag cars are. most everything in the nhra is. hmm... trend?
why do skyline owners have mods that allow them to switch to rwd from awd? for traction at the drag strip.
why is it better? weight transfer. if you step on the gas, the weight goes to the back of the car. if it's rwd, you're putting weight on the drive wheels, which puts the power down.
and rwd puts 100% power to the ground through the rear wheels. if you have awd, it's putting not 100% to the rears, so you've got a slight disadvantage if you're talking about being the fastest thing in a straight line.
back to the point... hell... even the gst has a quicker time in the 1/4, b/c it's lighter. good point huh? it's not always the traction you have. if you can't get all the power down, and you weigh more, you're not gonna beat me.
There are variables in the Max's weight, first off you have to understand that we are talking over the lifetime of the Max, so 1st gen through 6th gen, also consider weight differences due to models and trannies. This is why there are what you consider, inconsistencies.
Find out what specific gens we're speaking about and pick one and you'll get an exact weight for that car from someone who owns that model or gen.
It was never intended to be a flame war, I have mad respect for an individual's auto but if that same person or someone else starts dissin my car, then I'm gonna stand up for my car.
I think it's called pride or brand loyalty, Honda guys love their cars, Mitsubishi guys love their rides and Nissan guys favor their cars. I just don't like it when people start generalizing and thinking everyone with a Japanese auto is riced out just because you own an import from Japan or with a Japanese name. This is what bloo did to get all of this, what you consider flaming started.
I didn't come here to diss people's ride, I came here to talk constructively about car's comparison on performance and soon as I look someone is dissin Japanese car's or the Max in this case, so I did what you or anyone who has a lil pride in their ride would do and that is defend your intellect and reasoning for purchasing that particular model or brand.
KrNxRaCer00
01-11-2003, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by bk2kmax
Of course you can go get your lil civic for 4k, this isn't even about no civic, this is about guys comparing cars in similar classes to the Max.
No one is comparing a lil 4k civic to anything, there's a reason you can afford to do that to your lil 4k civic. First there is a large supply of aftermarket parts for civics because of the popularity of the car being easy to afford and easy to mod.
The Max isn't that kind of car, it is a family car, so your 2 cents doesn't matter here because this was an a & b conversation with me and bloo, so if you don't mind, stay out of it because we're not comparing apples to oranges.
No one ever said that it'll be cheap to make the Max fast, unless you're saying 2,500 is cheap (then okay,rich boy), I was stating that in comparison (only because bloo made the comparo first) I could spend about 2500 or more to mod the Max with an SC and maybe n20 and be as fast as the M3 which cost about 25 to 27k more than a Max. Still this would be cheaper than buying an M3, which I still wouldn't compare to a Max because it is a better car and in a different category, this is why I was comparing the 325 to the Max which is in the same category.
So don't bother with your 2 pennies cause they're not worth anything on this matter.
haha, ur an angry lil man aren't u? 1st off, u wanna call me a rich boy? at age 18, i make $10 an hour, working 20 hours a week while in high school so i can pay my insurance and car payment. but im rich rite? man u make all these statements to sound like u are a little bratty know it all who thinks he's jus "showing pride."
after this, u say ur not going to get into a flame match? well dood, u make all these comebacks that a junior high school kid would, an then figure that people will respond by saying "o...im sorry, ur rite the maxima really is a great car." if u want people to treat u with respect, then u gotta take others opinons into account also, since u came to talk "constructively" :rolleyes:
damn man...i understand having pride in wut u drive, but serious now...u come off soundin like u think ur car is something more impressive than it is. so "rep" ur car all u want, but try to atleast keep an open mind to other people's views an thoughts, otherwise ur jus ignorant an one of the reasons why some people hate import drivers.
sheesh...u need a hug man...foreel if ur this insecure about ur car. :D
Of course you can go get your lil civic for 4k, this isn't even about no civic, this is about guys comparing cars in similar classes to the Max.
No one is comparing a lil 4k civic to anything, there's a reason you can afford to do that to your lil 4k civic. First there is a large supply of aftermarket parts for civics because of the popularity of the car being easy to afford and easy to mod.
The Max isn't that kind of car, it is a family car, so your 2 cents doesn't matter here because this was an a & b conversation with me and bloo, so if you don't mind, stay out of it because we're not comparing apples to oranges.
No one ever said that it'll be cheap to make the Max fast, unless you're saying 2,500 is cheap (then okay,rich boy), I was stating that in comparison (only because bloo made the comparo first) I could spend about 2500 or more to mod the Max with an SC and maybe n20 and be as fast as the M3 which cost about 25 to 27k more than a Max. Still this would be cheaper than buying an M3, which I still wouldn't compare to a Max because it is a better car and in a different category, this is why I was comparing the 325 to the Max which is in the same category.
So don't bother with your 2 pennies cause they're not worth anything on this matter.
haha, ur an angry lil man aren't u? 1st off, u wanna call me a rich boy? at age 18, i make $10 an hour, working 20 hours a week while in high school so i can pay my insurance and car payment. but im rich rite? man u make all these statements to sound like u are a little bratty know it all who thinks he's jus "showing pride."
after this, u say ur not going to get into a flame match? well dood, u make all these comebacks that a junior high school kid would, an then figure that people will respond by saying "o...im sorry, ur rite the maxima really is a great car." if u want people to treat u with respect, then u gotta take others opinons into account also, since u came to talk "constructively" :rolleyes:
damn man...i understand having pride in wut u drive, but serious now...u come off soundin like u think ur car is something more impressive than it is. so "rep" ur car all u want, but try to atleast keep an open mind to other people's views an thoughts, otherwise ur jus ignorant an one of the reasons why some people hate import drivers.
sheesh...u need a hug man...foreel if ur this insecure about ur car. :D
flylwsi
01-12-2003, 12:29 AM
i understand the differences in weights b/n generations of vehicles,
however... if you were to READ THE FIRST POST IN THE THREAD, you would know exactly what year the person that started the thread is talking about, so there would be no variation in the weight, as he clearly states a year and model specification.
that would make it so much easier.
people are throwing numbers left and right, and stating that they are from models specifically not the one in question...
read the first post...
that's the point of the thread.
that's all i'm saying.
you can't make a comparison if no one really tries to give the actual information about the cars specified.
however... if you were to READ THE FIRST POST IN THE THREAD, you would know exactly what year the person that started the thread is talking about, so there would be no variation in the weight, as he clearly states a year and model specification.
that would make it so much easier.
people are throwing numbers left and right, and stating that they are from models specifically not the one in question...
read the first post...
that's the point of the thread.
that's all i'm saying.
you can't make a comparison if no one really tries to give the actual information about the cars specified.
TatII
01-12-2003, 02:10 AM
well flywsi, you had many convos with friends where if you try to trace back to how you got to what your talkin about, its kinda hard becuase one thing always somehow leads to another , and it just ends up strayin sooo hard from the original starting point htat you absolutely forgot how you ended up at where you ended up? well whats the point i'm saying? nothing. :D
KrNxRaCer00
01-12-2003, 03:22 AM
this thread is simply...:huh: now...i dunno its still entertaining to see jus how far off topic we can all get eh?
bk2kmax
01-12-2003, 08:41 PM
Originally posted by KrNxRaCer00
haha, ur an angry lil man aren't u? 1st off, u wanna call me a rich boy? at age 18, i make $10 an hour, working 20 hours a week while in high school so i can pay my insurance and car payment. but im rich rite? man u make all these statements to sound like u are a little bratty know it all who thinks he's jus "showing pride."
after this, u say ur not going to get into a flame match? well dood, u make all these comebacks that a junior high school kid would, an then figure that people will respond by saying "o...im sorry, ur rite the maxima really is a great car." if u want people to treat u with respect, then u gotta take others opinons into account also, since u came to talk "constructively" :rolleyes:
damn man...i understand having pride in wut u drive, but serious now...u come off soundin like u think ur car is something more impressive than it is. so "rep" ur car all u want, but try to atleast keep an open mind to other people's views an thoughts, otherwise ur jus ignorant an one of the reasons why some people hate import drivers.
sheesh...u need a hug man...foreel if ur this insecure about ur car. :D
18, you really need to grow up to become a man before you can call someone lil, you didn't have anything to do with the dialog between me and bloo, then you add your lil 2 peenies and all I said to you was your 2 pennies were not welcome.
I respect your right to say whatever you have to say, you call them opinions but when someone comeback and say something to you, then they're being a lil junior high kid or an angry lil man.
I never said my car was all that or anything, I compared my car to one vehicle and that was only because he dissed my car. I'm not looking for an apology from you or anyone else. I never had a close mind towards anyone's view on this forum.
You got into the counterpoint by coming in talking about a lil 4k civic, which was way OT. I only said richboy to you because you made it sound as though $2500 was nothing
You're the one who's blowing up this issue about my car and adding in your on 2 pennies is not helping you if you only make 10$ and hour, save them and get a college education.
haha, ur an angry lil man aren't u? 1st off, u wanna call me a rich boy? at age 18, i make $10 an hour, working 20 hours a week while in high school so i can pay my insurance and car payment. but im rich rite? man u make all these statements to sound like u are a little bratty know it all who thinks he's jus "showing pride."
after this, u say ur not going to get into a flame match? well dood, u make all these comebacks that a junior high school kid would, an then figure that people will respond by saying "o...im sorry, ur rite the maxima really is a great car." if u want people to treat u with respect, then u gotta take others opinons into account also, since u came to talk "constructively" :rolleyes:
damn man...i understand having pride in wut u drive, but serious now...u come off soundin like u think ur car is something more impressive than it is. so "rep" ur car all u want, but try to atleast keep an open mind to other people's views an thoughts, otherwise ur jus ignorant an one of the reasons why some people hate import drivers.
sheesh...u need a hug man...foreel if ur this insecure about ur car. :D
18, you really need to grow up to become a man before you can call someone lil, you didn't have anything to do with the dialog between me and bloo, then you add your lil 2 peenies and all I said to you was your 2 pennies were not welcome.
I respect your right to say whatever you have to say, you call them opinions but when someone comeback and say something to you, then they're being a lil junior high kid or an angry lil man.
I never said my car was all that or anything, I compared my car to one vehicle and that was only because he dissed my car. I'm not looking for an apology from you or anyone else. I never had a close mind towards anyone's view on this forum.
You got into the counterpoint by coming in talking about a lil 4k civic, which was way OT. I only said richboy to you because you made it sound as though $2500 was nothing
You're the one who's blowing up this issue about my car and adding in your on 2 pennies is not helping you if you only make 10$ and hour, save them and get a college education.
KrNxRaCer00
01-12-2003, 09:37 PM
haha, don't worry, goin to college next year. u wanna dis on my age? well dood, ur sittin here arguing with an 18 year old so wut does that make u? ah well, guess we should all quit an act our ages...i mean wuts the point of arguing on here eh? lets jus forget about it an move on...im game if u are.
bk2kmax
01-13-2003, 06:27 AM
Originally posted by KrNxRaCer00
haha, don't worry, goin to college next year. u wanna dis on my age? well dood, ur sittin here arguing with an 18 year old so wut does that make u? ah well, guess we should all quit an act our ages...i mean wuts the point of arguing on here eh? lets jus forget about it an move on...im game if u are.
I'm willing to forget about it also I wasn't arguing I was "constructively debating" anyway, you call it what you want, it's over and done with.
haha, don't worry, goin to college next year. u wanna dis on my age? well dood, ur sittin here arguing with an 18 year old so wut does that make u? ah well, guess we should all quit an act our ages...i mean wuts the point of arguing on here eh? lets jus forget about it an move on...im game if u are.
I'm willing to forget about it also I wasn't arguing I was "constructively debating" anyway, you call it what you want, it's over and done with.
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