possible head gasket problem
goldslaugh
05-24-2007, 10:35 PM
i bought a 97 winstar today 104k 6 cyl. 3.8. the guy said he thought it might be a blow head gasket, very white smoke was blowing out of the tail pipe. I got it for 700 bucks, towed it back to my work. a co-worker of mine who was gunna change the gaskets if needed looked it over, he said his truck did the same thing it had water in the tail pipe, so he let the van run for 30 min or so, watching the temp gauge. after 20 min or so it stopped smoking, temp was normal. he checked the oil and said it didn't aapear to have coolant in it. drove it down the the auto parts store and got some oil and air filter took back to the shop changed the oil n air filter. van seems to be fine. Is it possible there was just water in the tail pipe? what is my next step should i take it to the shop and have em run a test to make sure it's ok?
MARZBX157
05-25-2007, 12:36 AM
Sometime condesation can form in the system if the vehicle has been standing for a long period of time. I would check the oil on a frequent basis to make sure theres no coolant mixed in there also check the coolant resevior before starting the vehicle reguarlly as this is a good indicator of leak (if you see the level dropping from the fill line and no noticable leaks underneath the car there's possibly coolant leaking passed the gaskets.
wiswind
05-25-2007, 09:34 PM
The head gaskets are not a high failure item if the engine has not been overheated.....on the POST 1995 3.8L windstar.
However, the head gaskets WERE high failure on the 1995 3.8L
What IS high failure, that can be misdiagnosed as a head gasket failure is failure (leaking) of the lower intake manifold gaskets.
This can be leakage into the intake....and into the cylinder(s).....which can lead to the diagnosis of head gasket failure....when it is just the lower intake manifold gaskets.
They can also leak coolant into the oil.....and even outside the engine.
My lower intake manifold gaskets had slight leakage into the cylinders......and I had some coolant show up in the oil in the samples that I sent to Blackstone Labs for testing.
FORD improved the replacement lower intake manifold gaskets, so, if done correctly, the repair should only need doing 1 time.
If the van is behaving nicely now......
I would change the oil.......top off the coolant if needed.....and monitor.
If you have a slight loss of coolant.....and no drips on the ground......I would suspect a internal coolant leak.
In any case.......
I would change the oil at no more than 3k miles and send a sample in to Blackstone Labs for testing.
They will send you a free sample kit.....and the test is not expensive.....you should know within a week of sending the sample.
They will detect coolant in the oil at a much lower level than you will be able to tell otherwise......and serious damage will be happening in the engine LONG before you will be able to detect coolant in the oil by other "eyeball" methods.
www.blackstone-labs.com
However, the head gaskets WERE high failure on the 1995 3.8L
What IS high failure, that can be misdiagnosed as a head gasket failure is failure (leaking) of the lower intake manifold gaskets.
This can be leakage into the intake....and into the cylinder(s).....which can lead to the diagnosis of head gasket failure....when it is just the lower intake manifold gaskets.
They can also leak coolant into the oil.....and even outside the engine.
My lower intake manifold gaskets had slight leakage into the cylinders......and I had some coolant show up in the oil in the samples that I sent to Blackstone Labs for testing.
FORD improved the replacement lower intake manifold gaskets, so, if done correctly, the repair should only need doing 1 time.
If the van is behaving nicely now......
I would change the oil.......top off the coolant if needed.....and monitor.
If you have a slight loss of coolant.....and no drips on the ground......I would suspect a internal coolant leak.
In any case.......
I would change the oil at no more than 3k miles and send a sample in to Blackstone Labs for testing.
They will send you a free sample kit.....and the test is not expensive.....you should know within a week of sending the sample.
They will detect coolant in the oil at a much lower level than you will be able to tell otherwise......and serious damage will be happening in the engine LONG before you will be able to detect coolant in the oil by other "eyeball" methods.
www.blackstone-labs.com
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