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Cavi_Kid015
02-18-2007, 01:21 AM
Just wondering what Ez addons can be put on my 98 Cavy.

millrtime
02-18-2007, 03:54 AM
intake, exaust, header, throttle body...blah, blah, blah. try the search, it works wonders........kinda need to kno wat engine u have to see if anything is worth the trouble though. if u have the 2.2, sorry then, that sux for you.

Lances133
02-18-2007, 11:51 AM
If you have the 2.2 motor, don't waste your money on performance parts, just make it look fast.
...

DeadBlade89
02-18-2007, 12:28 PM
i have a 2200 and i put an intake, and full exhaust engine-back on and i dont think its a waste of money.

Lances133
02-18-2007, 01:06 PM
For the sound and looks only, it's not a waste. But to expect things like that to give you more horse power and make it faster it is a waste.

Cavi_Kid015
02-18-2007, 03:22 PM
I have been looking at tons of different CAI's And WAI's and honoestly cant tell the difference. Does any1 have a recommended brand or can tell me the difference between CAI and WAI.....one is cold one is warm i know that. But how does it effect ur preformance?

PsychoJJ
02-18-2007, 04:06 PM
Colder the air going into the engine the better the performance. Personally I tried out a few and totally dug the AEM cai but everyone has their own preference. Also Im sure cody will be around to whore out his crews intakes.

Lefix
02-18-2007, 05:31 PM
Cold air intakes are usually placed in the fender well area, which brings in a cooler charged air from beneath the car (outside of the engine bay), which is denser and therefore creates more power. The piping is a lot longer than a short ram which means the power gains are not seen until the mid to higher RPM band. A short ram intake is located inside the engine bay and creates power with better response times than a cold air, however the air is not as dense, which means that it doesn’t make as much power in the upper RPM region and makes less power overall.

Classicrocjunkie
02-18-2007, 10:31 PM
Colder the air going into the engine the better the performance. Personally I tried out a few and totally dug the AEM cai but everyone has their own preference. Also Im sure cody will be around to whore out his crews intakes.


www.rdfabs.com

We make em in stainless steel over that of the competitors aluminum ones. Were also cheaper. Who you choose is up to you.

CavLCD128
02-19-2007, 04:22 AM
i have a 2200 and i put an intake, and full exhaust engine-back on and i dont think its a waste of money.

when u race a stock civic and it walks u down the street you will...:nono: :shakehead

and when you say "no it wont happen" il get the specs for you :thumbsup:

Schister66
02-19-2007, 12:15 PM
the title made me laugh....i have never heard of "screw on" mods, rather "bolt on"

I assume that the guys above gave you all the answers you'll need

DeadBlade89
02-19-2007, 04:33 PM
when u race a stock civic and it walks u down the street you will...:nono: :shakehead

and when you say "no it wont happen" il get the specs for you :thumbsup:

no, it wont happen :screwy:

specs plz...:smokin:

CavLCD128
02-19-2007, 05:14 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Cavalier

our 3rd gen 2200 OHV

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Civic

vs their 6 gen 1.6L...

Schister66
02-19-2007, 08:06 PM
Honda FTW...

Lances133
02-19-2007, 08:35 PM
Honda FTW...
http://i12.tinypic.com/3ydlogz.jpg

:lol:

MITSUBISHI FTW :grinyes:

DeadBlade89
02-19-2007, 10:03 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Cavalier

our 3rd gen 2200 OHV

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Civic

vs their 6 gen 1.6L...

i didnt see any specs so ill post wut i found...

1992-1995 Honda Civic Specs: (Weight: 2100-2300)
Engine Litres HP Torque
ohc I4 1.5 70 90 :screwy:
ohc I4 1.5 92 97 :screwy:
ohc I4 1.5 102 98 :screwy:
ohc I4 1.5 125 106 :smokin:

1996-2000 Honda Civic Specs: (Weight: 2300)
Engine Litres HP Torque
ohc I4 1.6 106 103 :screwy:
ohc I4 1.6 115 104 :screwy:
ohc I4 1.6 127 107 :smokin:
dohc I4 1.6 160 111 :nono:

2001-2005 Honda Civic Specs: (Weight:2400-2800)
Engine Litres HP Torque
ohc I4 1.7 115 110 :screwy:
ohc I4 1.7 117 111 :screwy:
ohc I4 1.7 127 114 :smokin:
dohc I4 2.0 160 132 :nono:

:screwy: = Win for me
:smokin: = TOSS UP (edited just for miller)
:nono: = Lose for me

millrtime
02-20-2007, 01:52 AM
basing your "wins" on power alone just shows ur inexperience. and any engine for the 96+ has 5 hp and that figure goes down as the year increases. civics are far lighter than cavaliers, have better tranny's, and virtually the same engine specs....most civics WOULD beat your car, not just the si's/r's or any combination of the 2....just because u have an exaust and intake on ur car, doesnt mean ur the shit, u still have a shitty engine.

JaysZ24
02-20-2007, 03:47 PM
Would my pretty much stock 97 Z24 with K&N air filter with a 4speed auto beat my friends 1992 eagle Talon 2.0L 5speed (I have looked for stats on his car but can't find them they r all for talons with turbos and he dosen't have a turbo) who would win?

Lefix
02-20-2007, 04:03 PM
I can kill 2005 and below civic's (ALL, even the SI) and accord's (The I4's) like nothing...

Haven't raced a 2006 civic SI, i think i will lose, but i should lose by like around 2 car-lengths tops...

JaysZ24
02-20-2007, 04:10 PM
I have never really raced to many people just my friends cav thats a 2002 with the 2.2 n killed him and my friends dodge stratus n killed that too

But my friend with the Talon wants to race me so we r going to the track in the summer and my other firend with a 93 Lincon Mark VIII wants to race me too i know hes gonna kill me tho

millrtime
02-20-2007, 04:39 PM
i severly doubt u will beat ur friends talon, unless he misses a shift. mitsu makes some stout motors and light cars and the mark 8 will kill u also.....it might be close but im not sure. and as for lefix who beat an 05 si, severely doubt it, and i doubt u could beat an accord either. i raced my step-dad in his 00 accord 5 speed and he killed me 03 cavy, and that was the h23 sohc.....u could proly beat all the civics but the si's.

DeadBlade89
02-20-2007, 04:43 PM
basing your "wins" on power alone just shows ur inexperience. and any engine for the 96+ has 5 hp and that figure goes down as the year increases. civics are far lighter than cavaliers, have better tranny's, and virtually the same engine specs....most civics WOULD beat your car, not just the si's/r's or any combination of the 2....just because u have an exaust and intake on ur car, doesnt mean ur the shit, u still have a shitty engine.


basing your "wins" on power alone just shows ur inexperience.
1. im not basing it on power alone. u must be blind cuz i put weight on there also and i never said a race is based on just power, i just posted specs :disappoin. i was gonna slip some "toss ups" in there but desided not to. i also wasnt expecting someone like u to come outta nowhere and start bashing me...

and any engine for the 96+ has 5 hp and that figure goes down as the year increases.
2. engine power doesnt go down drasticly like ur saying if u keep care of ur engine, simple as that. maybe urs goes down that much cuz u dont take care of it, but thats u, not everyone else.

civics are far lighter than cavaliers
3. i already stated the weight in the specs, so that was a waste of my time reading that part of ur post...

most civics WOULD beat your car, not just the si's/r's or any combination of the 2.
4. most? we r still talking about stock right? torque does come into play and civics dont have much of it as HOPEFULLY u could see this. here, ill edit that post w/ "toss ups" if it will make u feel better.

just because u have an exaust and intake on ur car, doesnt mean ur the shit, u still have a shitty engine.
5. and no, i dont think im the shit. its pretty obvious that u think u r tho by the way ur coming in here and bashing me outta nowhere. i never aimmed nething toward u or ne1, and u just aimmed all that towards me. i dont appreciate it

and if u think im bashing u now, im not. im sticking up for myself cuz u did the bashing...

and i believe that sums up ur whole post. :iceslolan

civicHBsi91
02-20-2007, 05:29 PM
You guys do realize you are arguing over slow stock cars?

stock honda's are slow so are cavaliers, put intake and exhaust on them and geuss what. still slow!

depending on the model and year both come with engines that have no business being modified. Most of the honda single cam motors fall into this category. other single cams have been built and boosted and people are producing very good power numbers with them.

It's good to be unique and what not but some things just do not work and some things are a waste of money. I would listen to some of your cavalier friends that have been there done that and realized it was a waste of money and move on save for a better motor etc.

DeadBlade89
02-20-2007, 06:03 PM
You guys do realize you are arguing over slow stock cars?

stock honda's are slow so are cavaliers, put intake and exhaust on them and geuss what. still slow!

depending on the model and year both come with engines that have no business being modified. Most of the honda single cam motors fall into this category. other single cams have been built and boosted and people are producing very good power numbers with them.

It's good to be unique and what not but some things just do not work and some things are a waste of money. I would listen to some of your cavalier friends that have been there done that and realized it was a waste of money and move on save for a better motor etc.

ya, thats basicly wut i was trying to tell everyone but he felt that he had to get his :2cents: in and bash me in the process. i was just basicly trying to get the point across that my slow car can beat that slow car. :p

millrtime
02-20-2007, 09:35 PM
wow, get over it, i wasn't "bashing" you.... just merely stating that just because u have a couple mods for a shitty car, doesnt mean u can beat civic's on power and weight alone. your car sux, my car sux, all cavaliers suck performance wise so stop trying to make it what its not and stop being so full of urself

01Cavy
02-20-2007, 09:49 PM
www.rdfabs.com

We make em in stainless steel over that of the competitors aluminum ones. Were also cheaper. Who you choose is up to you.

Tell them to make em for the Celica GT :)

DeadBlade89
02-20-2007, 10:53 PM
wow, get over it, i wasn't "bashing" you.... just merely stating that just because u have a couple mods for a shitty car, doesnt mean u can beat civic's on power and weight alone. your car sux, my car sux, all cavaliers suck performance wise so stop trying to make it what its not and stop being so full of urself

your car sux, my car sux, all cavaliers suck performance wise

thats the only intelligent thing ive seen u say so far in this thread. like i said b4, i kno i cant "beat civics on power and weight alone", and it works the same for them. and idk how im being full of myself, just listen to urself. w/e...im not about to have u keep talkin back to me over all this nonsense, so im just gonna stop. its a waste of my time and im sure its a waste of urs. good debate tho minus the back and forth flaming.:grinyes:

Evilmonkey1177
02-21-2007, 12:11 AM
Anyway...getting back to the point of this thread.
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=624700
This is a thread i made back in the dark ages.
A lot of the stuff is a little outdated and i don't think all of the hyperlinks work but it should give you an idea of stuff you can do to your cavalier.

Lefix
02-21-2007, 01:04 AM
Alright, lets take a look at HP and TORQUE FIRST:
2005 Civic EX (Inline 4): 127 HP SAE @ 6,300 rpm; 114 ft lb , 155 Nm @ 4,800 rpm
2005 Civic SI (Inline 4): 160 HP SAE @ 6,500 rpm; 132 ft lb , 179 Nm @ 5,000 rpm
2005 Accord EX (Inline 4): 160 HP SAE @ 5,500 rpm; 161 ft lb , 218 Nm @ 4,500 rpm
2005 Accord LX (Inline 4): 160 HP SAE @ 5,500 rpm; 161 ft lb , 218 Nm @ 4,500 rpm

I STATED that i was talking about Inline 4 Accords, not the V6's, only the EX and the LX...

MY CAR:
2005 Sunfire (Inline 4): 165 HP SAE @ 5,600 rpm; 170 ft lb , 218 Nm @ 4,000 rpm

My car has more HP and WAY MORE TORQUE than even the SI's, and my car has more HP and more TORQUE than Accords.

Now lets go to the driving part... My car shifts faster than any manuals that i raced, the accord that i raced got like 1/4 of a car length at first gear, and when he shifts, which was almost the same time i shift, he slowed down and i caught up and then i passed him...

Now im talking about 1/4 mile races, maybe 2/9, which is little shorter, my car has so much more torque then the Honda's.

Normal Inline 4 Civic: Killed him by like 6-7 cars
Civic SI: Killed him by like 3 cars
Accord: Killed by around 2 cars

I raced automatic's too and i killed them, but they didnt lose as bad as the manuals...

Now the 2006 Civic DX, EX, LX (Inline 4): 140 HP SAE @ 6,300 rpm; 128 ft lb , 174 Nm @ 4,300 rpm

2006 Civic SI's (Inline 4): 197 HP SAE @ 7,800 rpm; 139 ft lb , 174 Nm @ 6,100 rpm

but thats at 7800 rpm to reach 197 HP and i STILL have more torque than the SI's, thats why i would be able to keep up with an SI, and it will catch up, but i wont lose more than 2 cars...

I want to race an SI and see how "CRAZY" they are.

PsychoJJ
02-21-2007, 01:18 AM
How much track time do you actually have is all I want to know.

Lefix
02-21-2007, 01:27 AM
How much track time do you actually have is all I want to know.

Track time you mean how long is the race road?

I would say about 20 seconds, or maybe lesser than that, its almost a quarter mile tho...
its not purely flat, it is a slight downhill then a slight up hill....

civicHBsi91
02-21-2007, 02:30 AM
I raced automatic's too and i killed them, but they didnt lose as bad as the manuals...


:shakehead It didnt occur to you that maybe the automatics kept up better is because the people you raced could not drive?

You cant really compare any cars if everyone you raced could not drive it to its potential. that's why all this bench racing shit is stupid.

Lefix
02-21-2007, 02:34 AM
oh they could drive trust me, but the shiftplus makes my shifts alot faster, and a automatic car can shifts faster than a manual can period...

CavLCD128
02-21-2007, 03:17 AM
lol...DODGE FTW WHORES!!

damn what did i start?

the only part i wanna add to this argument is u should get a civic because its easily swapable for a PLEATHERA of engines, and there are so many parts for hondas that its so easy to build them up....

Lances133
02-21-2007, 03:17 AM
MY CAR:
2005 Sunfire (Inline 4): 165 HP SAE @ 5,600 rpm; 170 ft lb , 218 Nm @ 4,000 rpm

Your car doesn't have those #'s Stock eco's have 140hp with like 150tq...and you're not getting 25hp from your exhaust system....i dont care how much hp the companies said their parts would give you.

civicHBsi91
02-21-2007, 03:51 AM
oh they could drive trust me, but the shiftplus makes my shifts alot faster, and a automatic car can shifts faster than a manual can period...

oh I bet they could for 16 year olds....:uhoh:

A honda auto tran's in civic's are deff not meant for racing by ANY means. They shift terribly slow and auto civic's are turd's if auto civic's were keeping up better than 5 speed civic's then they really could not drive im sorry to tell ya.

So not all automatic cars can shift faster than manual cars with good drivers.

Lances133
02-21-2007, 12:15 PM
lol...DODGE FTW WHORES!!
http://i17.tinypic.com/2s81npv.gif
:lol:

Derk_eliso
02-21-2007, 01:31 PM
genious lance!

millrtime
02-21-2007, 02:17 PM
Your car doesn't have those #'s Stock eco's have 140hp with like 150tq...and you're not getting 25hp from your exhaust system....i dont care how much hp the companies said their parts would give you.

:1:, thats the reason i said a couple other civics COULD beat you. regardless of ur shiftplus, intake, and dual exaust, which does nothing by the way.....

CavLCD128
02-21-2007, 03:32 PM
your best bet would be to get a few stickers...mabye a role call kit or 2....i hear those add like 40 HP per sticker....good luck :thumbsup:

yhandor
02-22-2007, 12:42 AM
Ummmm.....I have 97 Z24 Auto.....I have raced 3 Civic Si's Standard with intake, full exhaust, headers, short shifters, all the goodies......with my intake, muffler.....and smoked them unbelievably..............the only thing that beat me was last night, a 2007 Dodge Durango SUV with a 5.7 HEMI V8.......I school all these 4 cylinder cars here.......not very often I lose.....I also beat a V8 Monte Carlo, an older one, exactly like Julians off the Trailer Park Boys...

civicHBsi91
02-22-2007, 01:01 AM
oh yeah well I had a 97 mountaineer and I used to school you 4 banger fools all over the road and it was stock! I beat a v6 mustang too once he had wider tires than me so he could grip better off the line but i still caught up to him with my awd 5.0L! mustang motor and a civic with a b18a in it and a short shifter but it was in the back seat it was not installed yet and he had intake and full exhaust but the stock headers on the highway. you 4 banger boys will get schooled hahahahahahahahaaaa!

Lefix
02-22-2007, 01:23 AM
Okay...look

2005 Civic EX (Inline 4): 127 HP SAE @ 6,300 rpm; 114 ft lb , 155 Nm @ 4,800 rpm
2005 Civic SI (Inline 4): 160 HP SAE @ 6,500 rpm; 132 ft lb , 179 Nm @ 5,000 rpm

intake and exhaust does give u some HP, they arent made for LOOKS sorry...

2005 Sunfire (Inline 4): 165 HP SAE @ 5,600 rpm; 170 ft lb , 218 Nm @ 4,000 rpm

Fine if you think 165 is too much, we can do 155...

so lets make it 155 HP @ 5,600 rpm, and 160 ft lb , 218 Nm @ 4,000 rpm
the SI is 160 HP @ 6,500 rpm, and 132 ft lb, 179 Nm @ 5,000 rpm

okay, hmm 5 horses wont bother much but im sure 28 lb's of torque will, both of my HP and torque reachs that amount 1000 rpm's before the SI does, its common sense, if you guys dont believe me, fine, i personally won them and i know so im happy about it...

civicHBsi91
02-22-2007, 01:45 AM
if you guys dont believe me, fine, i personally won them and i know so im happy about it...

lol! no one cares man! good kills move on! we all have stories

One time I raced a yellow ls sport cavalier he had a muffler maybe an intake im not sure. I was driving a 93 civic lx 4door...1.5L 102hp if that with 250,000+ stock as can be with no muffler because it had rusted itself off lol. well we race from a 2nd gear roll and I pulled a fender on him till about the top of 4th...now this civic was a turd slow as balls and I beat that cavalier with it does this mean that civic can beat every single ls sport cavalier? NO

Just because you beat one of something or two or three of something one day youll run into someone with better driving skills on the same car and you'll get spanked and you'll be like oh must have been spraying or something.

Theres people out there that run 16's in 99 si's and then theres people that run 14's in them with similiar mods alot comes into play when racing alot more than your googled hp and torque numbers. I geuss you'll learn this as you get more experience in the game.

Lefix
02-22-2007, 03:25 AM
hmm just to let you know, if you were racing a 2002 and below cavalier ls sport watever, those cavy's only have 115HP...

my car runs mid 15's stock, that was the first and only time i took it to a drag and that was without the intake and exhaust and all that crap, just stock with a stock dual exhaust...

Im not into racing racing, i just drag with my friends for fun and sometimes a random civic on the road and i race em, there are WAY TOO MANY civic's here....you won't believe....

But im planning on making my car look good and after that, i wont race much cuz of the bodykit, and i will only race once in awhile just for fun...

CavLCD128
02-22-2007, 09:42 AM
Okay...look

2005 Civic EX (Inline 4): 127 HP SAE @ 6,300 rpm; 114 ft lb , 155 Nm @ 4,800 rpm
2005 Civic SI (Inline 4): 160 HP SAE @ 6,500 rpm; 132 ft lb , 179 Nm @ 5,000 rpm

intake and exhaust does give u some HP, they arent made for LOOKS sorry...

2005 Sunfire (Inline 4): 165 HP SAE @ 5,600 rpm; 170 ft lb , 218 Nm @ 4,000 rpm

Fine if you think 165 is too much, we can do 155...

so lets make it 155 HP @ 5,600 rpm, and 160 ft lb , 218 Nm @ 4,000 rpm
the SI is 160 HP @ 6,500 rpm, and 132 ft lb, 179 Nm @ 5,000 rpm

okay, hmm 5 horses wont bother much but im sure 28 lb's of torque will, both of my HP and torque reachs that amount 1000 rpm's before the SI does, its common sense, if you guys dont believe me, fine, i personally won them and i know so im happy about it...

mabye 28 lbs of torque would help u...but the fact that the civic prob weighs in at about 500 lbs less than your car is gonna rocket him into first...

sorry lefix but HONDA FTW....:cwm27:

Lefix
02-22-2007, 03:25 PM
Honda FTW huh?

Thats why i killed every single civic's (which is more than 20) that i raced except a 2003 SI with intake, header, and full back...

Lances133
02-22-2007, 04:35 PM
Oh god, enough is enough already

CavLCD128
02-22-2007, 05:58 PM
lol gimmie 5k on a civic and 5 k on a sunfire...i would take 5 k and a civic anyday sweetheart...im done with this thread

-bryan OUT

PsychoJJ
02-22-2007, 07:45 PM
All I can say is the way you answered my question alone proves about 90% of the peoples points in this thread.

If you ask a pilot how much flight time he has Im sure hes not going to respond with how far his plane can fly. He is going to tell you how much he has actually flown. So I wont even ask the question again in better terms instead Ill let you do the math on it.

Lefix
02-22-2007, 11:28 PM
Well, i didnt time my races, its on a freaking public road and its SO illegal, so we dont have no official time keeper or end line keeper, its the freaking telephone pole that is the end line... lol

civicHBsi91
02-23-2007, 12:38 AM
Well, i didnt time my races, its on a freaking public road and its SO illegal, so we dont have no official time keeper or end line keeper, its the freaking telephone pole that is the end line... lol

lol just stop talking. stop street racing keep it at the track you are way too young and dangerous i dont care how good you think you can drive. keep it at the track FTW :bigthumb:

Lefix
02-23-2007, 02:08 AM
lol i dont wanna bring my car down to the drags... how embarrasing... lol...

ppl that goes to the drags are like 12's and below...

Besides, there is not many ppl in Hawaii, so its WAY safer than street racing on the mainland...

But i wanna go to the noob drags one of these days...race with stock 16's and 18 civics...haha... smoking time!

civicHBsi91
02-23-2007, 02:33 AM
lol well have fun at the noob drags noob

Classicrocjunkie
02-23-2007, 11:39 AM
Street racing..... Jesus Christ, here we go again.

CavLCD128
02-23-2007, 12:52 PM
its gonna get locked now...someone get KustM on the horn...lol

i can predict the future...just u watch

01Cavy
02-23-2007, 02:36 PM
Street racing..... Jesus Christ, here we go again.

:1:

I'm getting sick of hearing about dumbasses and thier street racing!

Classicrocjunkie
02-23-2007, 04:09 PM
its gonna get locked now...someone get KustM on the horn...lol

i can predict the future...just u watch

locked no, but i think some warnings are in store...

civicHBsi91
02-23-2007, 06:11 PM
warning for what?

No one can handle anything these days. stuff like this used to go on all the time years back and it was great! had something to look forward to when i get online...shit is boring if theres no debates or anything.

PsychoJJ
02-23-2007, 07:12 PM
I agree with you on that one civic but too many people have their skirts on a little too tight these days it seems.

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