'91 caprice classic tranny
Mr. Rivera
01-30-2007, 09:20 PM
My car has a LO3(305), but not to sure about the tranny, I was told 700R4, 4L60,and 4L60E! Which one is it,cause its burned up and would like to rebuilt it to save sum money.
silicon212
01-31-2007, 12:18 AM
Welcome to AF!
The transmission WON'T be a 4L60E - that's an electronic controlled transmission that first saw use in the Caprice in 1994 ('93 in other carlines).
The 700R4 and 4L60 are for all intents and purposes, the same unit, although I refer to a particular trans as a 4L60 if it has an auxiliary valve body and a 700R4 if it does not. All made between 1987 and 1993 fit into this category (4L60) while 1986 and earlier are pure 700R4s.
The transmission WON'T be a 4L60E - that's an electronic controlled transmission that first saw use in the Caprice in 1994 ('93 in other carlines).
The 700R4 and 4L60 are for all intents and purposes, the same unit, although I refer to a particular trans as a 4L60 if it has an auxiliary valve body and a 700R4 if it does not. All made between 1987 and 1993 fit into this category (4L60) while 1986 and earlier are pure 700R4s.
Mr. Rivera
02-01-2007, 04:44 PM
You cant go wrong w/ a Dealership right? I gave them my last eight they told me 700R4 is what camn in it(everything is still OEM). A local transmission shop here in my home town looked @ it and told me 4L60. Is the dealership wrong?
corning_d3
02-01-2007, 05:15 PM
My '91 has a factory 700R4. 4L60's came later.
silicon212
02-01-2007, 07:20 PM
A "4L60" is a redesignation of the TH700R4. It is said to be easier to determine what it is to be used in with the 'new' designations. The way this works out is:
First digit is number of forward speeds
Second digit is design - L for Longitudinal mount (front engine rear drive) and T is for Transverse mount (front engine front drive or mid engine rear drive [Fiero]).
Third and fourth digits are the weight capacity (60 is 6,000 lbs GVW etc).
So, in 1987 (yes this happened in 1987 - look it up), GM redesignated their transmissions. The transmissions that didn't get a redesignation are the TH200C and 4R models.
TH400 became 3L80. TH700R4 became 4L60. TH125C became 3T40.
Much of the paperwork on the cars continued to call the TH700R4/4L60 a TH700R4 into the 90s, but the fact is the official redesignation took place for the 1987 model year.
TH700R4 and 4L60 are interchangeable terms beginning with the 1987 model year.
First digit is number of forward speeds
Second digit is design - L for Longitudinal mount (front engine rear drive) and T is for Transverse mount (front engine front drive or mid engine rear drive [Fiero]).
Third and fourth digits are the weight capacity (60 is 6,000 lbs GVW etc).
So, in 1987 (yes this happened in 1987 - look it up), GM redesignated their transmissions. The transmissions that didn't get a redesignation are the TH200C and 4R models.
TH400 became 3L80. TH700R4 became 4L60. TH125C became 3T40.
Much of the paperwork on the cars continued to call the TH700R4/4L60 a TH700R4 into the 90s, but the fact is the official redesignation took place for the 1987 model year.
TH700R4 and 4L60 are interchangeable terms beginning with the 1987 model year.
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