04-05 WRX vs 93-98 twin turbo supra

my car is going to my younger brother soon, i also have a 2000 toyota tundra, but my parents think its a little too much power for a new driver so hes gettin my tC. my budget is about 25,000. i know that is about the base price of a new wrx, but i realllllly dont care for the styling at all ( the 06 models) what are your thoughts pros and cons..tnx in advance.

get the supra

the supra destroys the wrx in every category. plus youll be one of few people who own one, instead of the many who own wrx's.

Well Supras are better than WRX's and thats about the end of that story. Even if you overlook the performance the wrx is ugly anyway.

I don't think that you can really compare the two. While the supra is hands down faster, with the supra you are buying a very old car for alot of money. Will you have money to spend on the car if and when it breaks? The supra is, in reality, not even in the same class as the WRX. I believe that they were over $40k new.


Edit: from the research I have done, it looks like you have to spend over $25k for anything under 125k miles. or you would have a wrx with 0 miles. Have you thought of a mazdaspeed 3? 260 hp but fwd :(

how is 93-98 very old lol?

Ever heard of depreciation?


for starters, you can't get a 98. those are over $40k. You think that spending nearly 30k for a japanese car that is 12 years old is not absurd. These things aren't considered classics yet, and should not be treated as such. Most of the cars already have mods, so it is nearly impossible to find one stock and in good condition.

tell me about it. the second gen supras are much more of a bargain, but the styling isnt my cup of tea. while the last gen, is quite pricey

people pay 100 grand for old hemi muscle cars. so why not 30 grand for something much more up to date and much bettter performing? the supra will be a true classic one day, and youll be glad you got your hands on one. but i agree, it is hard to find an un-molested stock mk4.

I think people that buy hemis right now have way too much money for there own good. I would consider the Mr2 turbo as a much cheaper alternative. Not as fast(stock), but I am sure that it is fun none the less

the supra destroys the wrx in every category. plus youll be one of few people who own one, instead of the many who own wrx's.

word, the supra is so much less complicated too, if you want to make drivetrain mods to the wrx it will be more of a hassle....plus a supra...is a supra...wrx' are a dime a dozen here in san diego...everybody and their brother has one...:screwy:

Supras are outrageously overpriced. And about the "old hemi muscle car" bit, its not all of them that are getting 100 grand its only the road runners and low volume models. I mean a cobra isn't going to fetch that much over time but the 2000 Cobra R will likely keep increasing value as it has already over just 7 years. A supra, though a fine car, isn't really going to appreciate in value the same way (unless there was some collectors model or something)

yea, but most muscle cars are going for ridiculous prices, while maybe not 100 grand but still alot. but think about it, in 20 years the supra will be a performance icon as well. and people will pay outrageous money for one. same way with the 300zx, rz-7, nsx, 300gt, z28, trans am, cobra, and c5 corvettes. when the people who grew up around these get old and rich they will be in high demand. also because people are more accepting of foreign cars nowadays than in the 60s and 70s. lol a 72 mustang will fetch a pretty penny while a 72 celica will fetch you hardly anything.

I have always said that the NSX will be worth a fortune in the future because so few people saw fit too purchase them. Good ones will be rare as hell.

yea, but most muscle cars are going for ridiculous prices, while maybe not 100 grand but still alot. but think about it, in 20 years the supra will be a performance icon as well. and people will pay outrageous money for one. same way with the 300zx, rz-7, nsx, 300gt, z28, trans am, cobra, and c5 corvettes. when the people who grew up around these get old and rich they will be in high demand. also because people are more accepting of foreign cars nowadays than in the 60s and 70s. lol a 72 mustang will fetch a pretty penny while a 72 celica will fetch you hardly anything.


Those cars will be worth something.... more than most cars, but not 100 grand like the low production cars. They will always be desirable to someone being the type of niche car that they all are. On a side note...... I have always thought that the coolest cars didnt have a slow model. Like the RX7 and Corvette. There is no V6 Corvette or Non turbo FD.

It won't matter how many they produced, just how many of them are left.

yea, they produced gobs of 1st gen mustangs but not many are still around.

That isn't true though. Just using your example, first generation mustangs aren't even worth that much, unless its a limited production model. It won't matter how many 98 tiburons are on the road in 25 years, they will still not be worth a cent. It won't matter how many 2000 mustang GTs are on the road in 2030 they still won't be worth very much 30 years after.

I really like the Supra, but at the same time it is one of the most over-valued cars on the road. If you can find a MkIV Supra TT in good condition in your price range I would pounce on it. They are just really cool cars in my mind. One of the few Japanese cars I would really consider for myself.

$25,000 gives you tons of options. It shouldn't be that hard to find a used 350z or an early Evo or STI within your reach. I would also check out a BMW E36 M3 and an Audi B5 S4.

Or just keep saving and get this beast. :grinyes:
http://www.caradisiac.com/media/images/le_mag/mag262/audi-rs4-s2b.jpg


That isn't true though. Just using your example, first generation mustangs aren't even worth that much, unless its a limited production model. It won't matter how many 98 tiburons are on the road in 25 years, they will still not be worth a cent. It won't matter how many 2000 mustang GTs are on the road in 2030 they still won't be worth very much 30 years after.
You can't use one example to prove a point when you can't be that certain you are right. If people demand them in the future, the owners will demand these people to pay. You might be surprised how much a low miles bone stock civic might be fetching in 20-30 years.

[QUOTE=lamehonda You might be surprised how much a low miles bone stock civic might be fetching in 20-30 years.[/QUOTE]


I am betting I won't be surprised.

I have to agree with the idea that this is a really odd comparison. If you don’t need something practical and can afford the insurance, I’d go for the Supra in a heart beat. Insurance companies are wise to the Supra’s appeal, though. I just bought a WRX wagon recently, and while researching I asked my insurance company about a couple of cars I had long lusted after. The Supra was one of them, and I just about crapped my pants when they gave me a rate. A 2003 Z06 Vette would have had cheaper rates. With the Supra you also run into one of those weird scenarios where market value is way off from book value. Getting a 25 thousand dollar loan on a Supra may be difficult… and if you (God forbid) total it, you’d be hard pressed to get the insurance company to give you what the car cost.

Do you plan on using the car as a daily driver? Hmmmm…. Maybe a Supra would be best used as a garage queen/ weekend fun car. I’d be too nervous to drive one everyday on my relatively modest income. Of course, you may be in a much better situation in that regard.

In terms of the collector value issue… you know what really sucks? The very thing that makes a Supra so desirable to many enthusiasts (the extreme tunability of that inline six!) is what will kill its value down the road. Supras with body kits and monster single turbo conversions will end up being shunned by the hard core connoisseurs who are willing to shell out the big bucks. But then again… maybe people will develop some kind of nostalgia for this whole import tuner thing. Crazier things have happened- if you went back in time ten years and told someone “in the know” what muscle cars would be going for, they would have called you insane.

Sorry about the long post… I was just kind of thinking as I wrote. When I’m ready (and can afford) to buy a car just for fun… I would very much like for it to be a Supra. I just can’t bring myself to pay twice (or more) than the value that NADA puts on a car. Maybe when book values and market values coincide, I’ll feel better.

Ah... one more thing... Dinan M3 threw out some nice choices. If a WRX really appeals to you, low mileage STi models should be available for around 25 grand.