what the hell is a spoon engine

well the topic sums it up

its a motor tuned by spoon sports, the japanese tuning company. generally a motor that has been given the full spoon treatment is meant for track only use, and is rebuilt often. Most people that say they are getting spoon motors are 16 yr old kids who just saw fast and the furious, and have done no research on the subject themselves

yeah some guy said id put a spoon engine in it i was like. this guy must of watched fast and the furious.

any way

hey if someone has time to give me basic deffinitions of =]

b18 's, b16's h22's etc

or know where i can look i would realy appreciate it

how much dose this engine go for?

well, i dont know exactly but as spoon sports is a japanese company its gonna be damn expensive. the rims are like 500 a piece

Quick definitions-
All the engines you were talking about are Honda/Acura made enigines that are just made for different cars. The b18 is engine is the engine for integra, the B16 is the engine for civics and the H22 is the engine for the prelude (god rest it's soul...it was a hell of a car, never should of discontinued them). They all have different displacements and HP. There are many websites that'll give you info on the engines. Just do a search for any of those and a lot of stuff will come up.
Like kidrocket said, the spoon engine is just an engine tuned by Spoon sports. It is definantly for track use only. People who put it in a daily driver either have a lot of money to spend or just enjoy fixing the constant problems you'll end up having. And furthermore, i've heard of those things going for around 10 grand and they do nothing to that engine that a guy around where you live probably could do for MUCH MUCH less. The spoon engine (and all other spoon stuff) is so high priced because your just paying for a name. It's just like buying a pair of NIKE sunglasses. You can find the same damn thing without the check mark on it for about 50 bucks less. Damn Fast and the Furious...Damn it to hell!

Why not Jun or TODA ??? I've heard that they are superior. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

hard to know what engine to use for street.
seems vtec is the only way to go. but shit vtec dont seem to have much more hp then plain stock dx engines . maby they can handle a more power ful pressure booste i dont know im just gettin into the sport.
dont even know if street cars is a real sport or just a bunch of posers acting bad ass =](its pretty fun though)


^^^ haha thats a sweet as post


o, thanks for the (very) brief deffinitions.

Spoon motors for like $7000 and up usually.

Get ready to rebuild it every time you change your oil too! :o

Yeah that's bull that someone would have a spoon motor.
lol I'm only 14 and a serious enthusiast too.
Spoon motors are like only for pro-racers or one of those people that drive cars and give their ratings are probably the few people that would be able to drive a spoon motor.
Can you get spoon motor in North America??
I haven't heard of it.
:flipa: I don't like the Fast and the Furious it was a stupid movie.

Uhhhh, yes you can get Spoon motors in the US.

Besides, you want to talk about "JDM" motors...

Ill take a Mugen Honda MF-308 motor please. 3 liter V8 that pushes out 455hp !

The motor you never knew Honda had ... :monkeypis DOMESTICS

Or how about a C32B thats been stroked/bored to 3.5L that puts out a nice 335hp. Nice little V6 swap for yah... lol! :smoka:

spoon motors are n/a motors with 11+C/R. whenever people refer to JDM+Hondas, they're usally referring to spoon for some reason.

sweet . give me more imfo . v6 sounds hella sweet man.how much we talken. say for a plain on like v6's honda puts in the accord.
draw backs
pros
cons
so on , ect.

one drawback: it wont fit into a civic

yeah that realy sucks

Spoon engines don't go for $7000... With a core turn in, it would cost around $4500... without a turn in, the most you'll spend is $6300 for a B18C that's blueprinted and balanced by Spoon... Subtract $500 for a B16B (civic type R) engine...

Originally posted by kidrocket
one drawback: it wont fit into a civic Bullshit it wont fit - you can still a Chevy V8 in a civic if you want to. Drawback is downtime - going to be alot of custom work, new stuff... will be original but going to cost a fortune. :finger:

long time no see sparqy

OK ill correct myself
its not cost efficient to put it in. For the amount of money you spend putting that motor in your car, you could have built a motor that would bolt in with more power probably for less money

I live in Japan. I've been to Motegi and have seen these things in action.
In a nutshell ; Spoon engines are basically B16a's and B16b's (JDMCivic TypeR) that have been bored and stroked to 1800cc's. They usually include a knife edged crank, forged rods, domed pistons that increase compression as well as some serious head work. They are usually designed to be NA because of thier use-- road racing-- application here requires durability and endurance. The most I've seen squeezed out of these things NA is about 260hp

The cost ranges from $2800-$7500. This doesn't include the Spoon ECU another $1000, exhaust, and intake (see pics below) ignition --Im sure the distributor breaks often-- You'll also need a good clutch transmission, LSD, and a boatload of other things that will require corporate sponsorship to justify thier useage. (forgot to include sales tax)
Quite frankly I prefer Mugen. They are Hondas in house tuner. You can order Mugen tuned TypeR's from the dealer in Japan, not only does that sound beautiful, but it comes with a Honda factory backed warranty...

Originally posted by macsir
... They usually include a knife edged crank ...

Knife edged cranks are bad, the counter-weight is important for power, even tough alot of race teams use knife edged cranks, truct me there's alot more racers that use STOCK cranks, or put b18 cranks into their b16.

I didn't state a preference for or against knife edged cranks. You didn't state what kind of racing was being done with stock cranks. Spoon has alot or racers that have won entire circuit championships year after year in Japan, using the spoon "formula". So how can this be bad? I agree that counterwieght is important in a balanced internal assembly, but for which application are you refering to when you say knife edged cranks are unsuitable? What application are you refering to when you say alot of racers? What kind of racing are you refering to?

I didn't state a preference for or against knife edged cranks. You didn't state what kind of racing was being done with stock cranks. Spoon has alot or racers that have won entire circuit championships year after year in Japan, using the spoon "formula". So how can this be bad? I agree that counterweight is important in a balanced internal assembly, but for which application are you refering to when you say knife edged cranks are unsuitable? What application are you refering to when you say alot of racers? What kind of racing are you refering to?

Originally posted by macsir
What kind of racing are you refering to?

Forgot to mention that, I'm into road racing, not STREET racing, ROAD racing , where an engine needs endurance and so does the driver, unlike drag racing