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spark plug hell 88 cutlass ciera


Tonglebeak
09-13-2006, 05:49 PM
So I went to replace my spark plugs...all seemed like fun and joy until I realized I CAN'T REMOVE THE ****ING PLUG :banghead:

Ok :). So, I looked in my service manual. Basically it said "o lololol we have an insulator that goes half way down the plug, but we'll be nice enough not to tell you how to remove it LOL"

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Basically...I don't know how to explain what it is. It's a rubber part (at least it felt like it) that had two sides to hold a pair of spark plugs. Anyways it covers the nut part of the spark plug, so I don't know how the hell to even remove the spark plug with this thing in the way!

Help? :(

maxwedge
09-13-2006, 06:18 PM
Ok, you have the wire off the plug, right? What engine do we have here?

Tonglebeak
09-13-2006, 06:22 PM
yes wires off, 2.8 v6

maxwedge
09-13-2006, 06:33 PM
Did the bottom of the wire break off and is till on the plug insulator, or the plug socket rubber keeper is stuck on the plug, try and get it off the plug with a long set of needle nose pliers.

Tonglebeak
09-13-2006, 06:39 PM
Yes the wire is completely off (the boot and all), exposing the bottom of teh plug. Where the nut should be on the spark plug to twist it off, there is a some sort of rubber insulator there, and it covers two spark plugs (3 sets of these exist). I assume that's what you're asking me to pull off?

maxwedge
09-13-2006, 06:58 PM
Yes.

Tonglebeak
09-13-2006, 07:02 PM
I actually had tried that, and it would not budge. I was afraid I'd break something so I stopped.

I had grasped both sides with my fingers and tried to pull it off, but no luck. I can try again though with a real tool >_>. I'll let you know if I got it or not.

Tonglebeak
09-13-2006, 11:15 PM
Haven't been able to get to it yet, it started raining, so I have to wait for tomorrow. Are you sure that piece will just pull right off? It's the one that kind looks like the barrel of a double barrel shotgun, but it's rubber-like and holds two spark plugs and covers about half the bottom of the spark plug. I just don't want to have my hopes crushed tomorrow @_@

Tonglebeak
09-14-2006, 10:31 AM
It simply will not come off. And unless I'm an idiot, it looks like these things are actually part of a bigger piece -.-

I don't know wtf to do now.

Tonglebeak
09-15-2006, 03:39 PM
http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/5439/testgc7.jpg

There's a pic of it

maxwedge
09-15-2006, 06:52 PM
Very blurry, but this looks like the wires on the coil pack, not the plugs?

Tonglebeak
09-15-2006, 08:30 PM
They are the plugs, I don't see how they can't be...When you remove the wire it exposes the base of the shiny base of the plug. Those wires are numbered 1-6 and I'm certain those are the plugs there.

Here's the picture ran through a sharpness filter:

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/3100/sharperek9.jpg

Hopefully that'll help out

Mrbizness1
09-15-2006, 10:28 PM
They are the plugs, I don't see how they can't be...When you remove the wire it exposes the base of the shiny base of the plug. Those wires are numbered 1-6 and I'm certain those are the plugs there.

Here's the picture ran through a sharpness filter:

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/3100/sharperek9.jpg

Hopefully that'll help out

Those images can't be the plugs. Spark plugs are located on the front and rear banks of the motor. Three in the front and three in the rear with about 6 inches between them. You should be able to see the wires on the front of the motor near the oil dipstick in the front.
maxwedge is correct you are looking at the coil packs where all the plug wires originate. They are also located on the lower front of the motor below the spark plugs.

Tonglebeak
09-15-2006, 10:31 PM
How? Those are the wire boots, and there's 6 of those things in the front, they look like the plugs when the boot is off. Right under the dipstick....what am I missing here? I did not see anything else that could look like spark plugs.

I'm going outside with my flashlight now just to be sure >_>

Tonglebeak
09-15-2006, 10:51 PM
Ok, I apologize. This was my first time >________>

I was actually afraid those were it...it's so much harder to get to the plugs than the coil pack apparently :(

Thanks for pointing out my stupidity :banghead:, and the help :)

maxwedge
09-16-2006, 08:34 AM
Ok, I apologize. This was my first time >________>

I was actually afraid those were it...it's so much harder to get to the plugs than the coil pack apparently :(

Thanks for pointing out my stupidity :banghead:, and the help :)
Listen for future reference, get a basic book on that car like a Haynes or such, for simple isssues like this you can save yourself ( and us) a lot of time.

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