22R vs.22RE Engine
dh302
06-09-2006, 11:19 AM
All,
I have been looking for an early 90’s Toyota pickup for my 16 year old son. A friend of mine said the 22R engine was the one to have. We found a 1991 Toyota 4x4 with 188,000 miles and a 22RE engine. Can someone tell me the pros and cons of the 22RE engine compared to the 22R engine? Should I shy away from the 22RE engine or be afraid of the 188,000 miles? Thanks.
Doug
I have been looking for an early 90’s Toyota pickup for my 16 year old son. A friend of mine said the 22R engine was the one to have. We found a 1991 Toyota 4x4 with 188,000 miles and a 22RE engine. Can someone tell me the pros and cons of the 22RE engine compared to the 22R engine? Should I shy away from the 22RE engine or be afraid of the 188,000 miles? Thanks.
Doug
KimMG
06-10-2006, 12:09 AM
22R is carburated and the 22RE is fuel injected. I have a 1990 pick-up, fuel injected and with 180,000 miles. It runs great. Maintenance costs over the past 16 years have been minimal. The only major repair was replacing the clutch.
dh302
06-10-2006, 09:24 AM
Thanks.
Doug
Doug
fourwd1
06-13-2006, 11:27 PM
Don't be afraid of 180K, but be cautious.
Even though 22Rs and REs will last a long time, they can still have problems.
1) When was the last time the Timing Chain set was replaced?
Should be every 90K or so. They stretch over time, and the guides break off. The excessive slop can wear a hole in the TC cover, then you'll have coolant and oil mixing.
2) They can also have bad Head Gaskets, which if not taken care of can lead to a cracked head. Bad HG also means oil and coolant mix.
If the engine has been properly maintained, 180K shouldn't be a problem.
Even though 22Rs and REs will last a long time, they can still have problems.
1) When was the last time the Timing Chain set was replaced?
Should be every 90K or so. They stretch over time, and the guides break off. The excessive slop can wear a hole in the TC cover, then you'll have coolant and oil mixing.
2) They can also have bad Head Gaskets, which if not taken care of can lead to a cracked head. Bad HG also means oil and coolant mix.
If the engine has been properly maintained, 180K shouldn't be a problem.
dh302
06-14-2006, 12:39 PM
OK. Thanks. The seller of the truck says he looked at the timing chain at 180,000 miles and he said the chain and guides were fine so he didn't replace them. He said the truck has always been ran on Mobile1 synthetic oil. Does all this sound possible? Thanks.
Doug
Doug
dh302
06-14-2006, 12:42 PM
If a 22RE engine breaks a timing chain, will the valves hit the pistons? In other words is it an "interference" engine? Thanks.
Doug
Doug
fourwd1
06-14-2006, 08:44 PM
yes it is an interference engine.
"Looked at" at 180,000. ...
If the first one was replaced 'late' at say 120K, the next one might still be good at 180k, but near replacement time. If by some way it's the original, well :screwy:
If you're really interested in the truck, you can either have him come down the amount of $ a TC job would cost ($400-500 easy), or have him prove the TC is good. That's fairly simple, just pull the valve cover. The top of the TC will be sitting there right in front of you at the front of the engine. Just pull on it. If there's more than say 1/2-1" of slack, it's loose. You may be able to point a flashlight down both sides and see if the guides are good, but you may need to know what you're looking for.
Just don't take his word for it.
"Looked at" at 180,000. ...
If the first one was replaced 'late' at say 120K, the next one might still be good at 180k, but near replacement time. If by some way it's the original, well :screwy:
If you're really interested in the truck, you can either have him come down the amount of $ a TC job would cost ($400-500 easy), or have him prove the TC is good. That's fairly simple, just pull the valve cover. The top of the TC will be sitting there right in front of you at the front of the engine. Just pull on it. If there's more than say 1/2-1" of slack, it's loose. You may be able to point a flashlight down both sides and see if the guides are good, but you may need to know what you're looking for.
Just don't take his word for it.
rmhambon
06-23-2006, 08:34 AM
All,
I have been looking for an early 90’s Toyota pickup for my 16 year old son. A friend of mine said the 22R engine was the one to have. We found a 1991 Toyota 4x4 with 188,000 miles and a 22RE engine. Can someone tell me the pros and cons of the 22RE engine compared to the 22R engine? Should I shy away from the 22RE engine or be afraid of the 188,000 miles? Thanks.
Doug
I was given a 1986 with 120K on it by an old gentlemen I have been friends with for a long time. It has the 22R. Over the past two years I have put 2006 Ford Mustang rims on it ($500 set) and it now has 158K with no problems at all. I made a header and have run 10.01 in the 1/8th mile. It is a great little truck.
I have been looking for an early 90’s Toyota pickup for my 16 year old son. A friend of mine said the 22R engine was the one to have. We found a 1991 Toyota 4x4 with 188,000 miles and a 22RE engine. Can someone tell me the pros and cons of the 22RE engine compared to the 22R engine? Should I shy away from the 22RE engine or be afraid of the 188,000 miles? Thanks.
Doug
I was given a 1986 with 120K on it by an old gentlemen I have been friends with for a long time. It has the 22R. Over the past two years I have put 2006 Ford Mustang rims on it ($500 set) and it now has 158K with no problems at all. I made a header and have run 10.01 in the 1/8th mile. It is a great little truck.
jbowerman76
06-27-2006, 08:42 PM
If you're son is going off-road with it stay with the 22R as I don't like fuel injections high pressure, it very hard to fix in the bush. If he's mainly going to drive this on pavement go with the 22re for the added performance and fuel economy.
Hope this helps
Hope this helps
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