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How To: Alternative Flocking Technique


klutz_100
04-19-2006, 10:32 AM
HOW TO: ALTERNATIVE FLOCKING TECHNIQUE

aka Klutz Kustom Karpets


I came up with this idea last night and I thought I would share it with you as it worked out even better than I thought it would.

I don’t know if you have the same problem as I do with flocking using white glue. Basically it always comes out a little bit “patchy” (even when using added paint) and requires a couple of applications. Also the glue needs to be applied carefully so as to get it only where you want it or you end up flocking the dashboard ;). The glue pulls away from the edges leading to thin/patchy flocking. And finally, I get flocking bits all over the interior of the kit.

Basically I’m really “flocked off” by the time I’ve finished.

There are a couple of alternative methods out there. Seljic uses flocked wall paper (I can’t get any); MFH makes a prepared carpet material (expensive).

This is a quick, cheap, clean and very effective alternative method that allows you to use your current flocking supplies. To show just how versatile this method can be, there’s a “quick and dirty” Special Edition director’s cut at the end :wink:

I should add that everything you see in this “How To” took me no more than 30-35 mins including taking pictures.



The basic principle is deadly easy – double-sided adhesive tape used for laying carpets.
I use this stuff all the time for attaching parts to bamboo sticks for painting so I always have a couple of rolls handy. It is particularly good for this flocking function as the adhesive it uses is pretty darn sticky!


Here’s what you will need:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/klutz100/TUTORIALS/FLOCKING/flock_00.jpg

Double sided carpet tape
Masking tape
Greaseproof kitchen paper (also known, I think, as baking paper or sandwich paper)
Flocking
Other odds and sods

Step 1:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/klutz100/TUTORIALS/FLOCKING/flock_02.jpg

The first 60 seconds of this method are spent making a template of the part you want to flock. Here I just took the first kit box that came to hand from my stash – Fujimi's 348gtb and covered it with 2 strips of Tamiya masking tape and trimmed around the edges with a sharp scalpel blade.



Step 2.

Now we need to make our sheet of “carpet” material.
Cut off a suitable strip of the sticky tape. Fortunately this kind of tape is by definition very wide and will almost certainly be wide enough for most model kits.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/klutz100/TUTORIALS/FLOCKING/flock_05.jpg

Lay the strip sticky side up on a piece of old newspaper (to collect the excess flocking). Tip the flocking material into a sieve (1) and then sprinkle very liberally (2) all over the sticky tape. Really make a huge pile and then vigorously push it all in to the tape (3) with your fingers. You can then pick up the tape, tip it over and then push it back into the pile of flocking (4).

Don’t be gentle or delicate at this stage – the objective is to work as much flocking as possible into the adhesive for maximum coverage. You should end up with something similar to (5)


STEP 3:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/klutz100/TUTORIALS/FLOCKING/flock_03.jpg

Since we will be cutting the carpet from the back, we need to make a negative of the floor plan template.
The easiest way to do this was to peel it from the model, put it onto a piece of greaseproof kitchen paper and then trim to size with metal ruler and scalpel.


STEP 4:


http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/klutz100/TUTORIALS/FLOCKING/flock_06.jpg

Take your template and place it “Tamiya side down” (1) on the backing paper of your carpet sheet and cut around it. You should end up with something like (2).
This was actually for me the hardest part to do. The backing paper of the carpet tape was veeeeery slippery and the template was hard to keep in place. The strip you can see cut out is for the seat mounting bar on the kit floor pan.

STEP 5:

Put you carpet in place :biggrin:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/klutz100/TUTORIALS/FLOCKING/flock_07.jpg

You can either just put it in place or remove the backing paper from the carpet tape and fix it in place permanently – the choice is yours.


Free extra material! Directors cut!

When I had finished this tutorial, I had sort of an “after shock” thought. I said to myself “I wonder if….” And it turned out that the answer was “yes, you can”

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/klutz100/TUTORIALS/FLOCKING/flock_AF_02.jpg

Before I put flocking on the carpet tape, I cut out some letter shapes from the greaseproof paper and placed them on the adhesive (the kitchen paper won't adhere stongly and behaves like backing paper). I then proceed to flock the tape as above with the main color – in this case brown.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/klutz100/TUTORIALS/FLOCKING/flock_AF_01.jpg

I then peeled off the letters to re-expose the adhesive and applied the second color – blue.

Voila! – Klutz Kustom Karpets :lol:

This was a reaaaallly rough and ready tryout and I don’t know just how precise you can get with it but……you show me ;)

EDITS:
Gionc also had a great additional idea for kits with symmetrical floor plans.
"Make one mask, then put 2 pieces of tape together with "waxed paper" between them. Cut out one template shape, separate the tape and hey presto!, 2 ready shapes for flocking."
Thanks for that Gio!


Also check out below what MPWR did with this technique!! Here's a peek :)
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/3536/11818777vx.jpg

KarmaMechanic
04-19-2006, 10:46 AM
Fantastic tip! I'm gonna' use this method on my next project! Thanks for sharin'! :icon16:

gionc
04-19-2006, 10:55 AM
Fantastic tutorial, my friend, one of "why I didn't tought before"? Becouse I'm not Stevensky, or not at all ;) J/K :)

cheers
giovensky

Ferrari TR
04-19-2006, 10:56 AM
That's really cool!
I bet if you painted the logo (or whatever) on the tape, then simply let it dry, the flocking would not stick to the logo and you'd get the same result only in the color of the paint not the color of the tape.

SpoonMan Dos
04-19-2006, 10:59 AM
I have to five that a try. Thanks!

675datsun
04-19-2006, 11:11 AM
WOW!
I could have used this on my 240Z!!! SUper tutorial and many thanks!!

sportracer02
04-19-2006, 12:11 PM
Hey Mr. Carpet,

you are the REAL flocking-master :lol: :lol: :lol:

Great How-To, btw :thumbsup: . Looks good, IŽll give it a try

Jamme
04-19-2006, 12:30 PM
Great How to......!
Really interesting.

:ylsuper:

Jamme

MPWR
04-19-2006, 12:41 PM
Great how to, and terrific idea. You've got me thinking now....

By the way, I think this 'greaseproof kitchen paper' may also be called 'waxed paper' in some parts of the world.

I may give it a try, and post my results.

willimo
04-19-2006, 12:41 PM
Brilliant!!

winstona
04-19-2006, 12:52 PM
Man this is good stuff. I have used double sided tape for a lot of modeling needs but now there is one more use for them. Thanks for the great tutorial.

Winston

drnitrus
04-19-2006, 01:11 PM
That is awesome. I will definitly be using this on a future custom lowrider build. THANKS!!!!!

By the way where do you pick up some of the double sided tape?

winstona
04-19-2006, 01:20 PM
That is awesome. I will definitly be using this on a future custom lowrider build. THANKS!!!!!

By the way where do you pick up some of the double sided tape?

I picked up mine in a discount dollar store here for $1 CDN each :)

Any hardware store like Home Depot should have them.

Winston

drnitrus
04-19-2006, 01:36 PM
cool thanks

MPWR
04-19-2006, 01:45 PM
Great idea Stevenski! I tried it out, and it does work. The 'sandwich paper' is in fact sold at my local grocery as 'waxed paper'.

I think I'm going to need a bit more practice with this technique. I tried it out to make a floor mat for the Mythos, but I got this odd little fuzzy horse shape in the center.

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/3536/11818777vx.jpg

http://img421.imageshack.us/img421/7928/11818762ir.jpg

:dunno:

klutz_100
04-19-2006, 02:44 PM
Cool! Awsome! :wink:

Seriously though, nice way forward. Did you use a p/e pony as a template? one of Crazy's metal decals? I was figuring that if one had access to a plotter, anything goes! make up 2 masks - pos and neg - and rock 'n roll!!
Did you notice how if you get the first color well worked into the adhesive then the 2 colors don't mix?

Great idea Stevenski! I tried it out, and it does work. The 'sandwich paper' is in fact sold at my local grocery as 'waxed paper'.

I think I'm going to need a bit more practice with this technique. I tried it out to make a floor mat for the Mythos, but I got this odd little fuzzy horse shape in the center.

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/3536/11818777vx.jpg

http://img421.imageshack.us/img421/7928/11818762ir.jpg

:dunno:

drnitrus
04-19-2006, 02:59 PM
Wow. the possibilities seem endless now.

klutz_100
04-19-2006, 03:17 PM
Wow. the possibilities seem endless now.
Well, I don't think it well help much with orange peel or stripping paint but other than that... ;)

Glad you all like it.

Gionc also had a great additional idea for kits with symmetrical floor plans.

Make one mask, then put 2 pieces of tape together with "waxed paper" between them. Cut out one template shape, separate the tape and hey presto!, 2 ready shapes for flocking. Thanks for that Gio!

Gridgirl
04-19-2006, 04:41 PM
This seems like a really useful technique. I have some flocking to do in my VW, and I expect that I'll use this. It might even be better than lederhosen! :evillol:

D_LaMz
04-19-2006, 07:24 PM
wow great idea!

WRC_413X
04-19-2006, 08:00 PM
Definatly a great idea seems u can get a really tight carpet fiber look, better than reg white glue, because of the pressing.
Im tryin this on my next build, and i also have a few ideas up my sleeve :evillol:

MPWR
04-19-2006, 09:12 PM
Cool! Awsome! :wink:

Seriously though, nice way forward. Did you use a p/e pony as a template?
Did you notice how if you get the first color well worked into the adhesive then the 2 colors don't mix?

Naw, I just forgot to run the flocking through a sifter first.... :rolleyes:

Well, OK, I used one of the plastic Cavalino's that come with that 348 kit you seem to be playing with. I doubt a PE part would be sturdy enough to be used without getting mangled when peeled up- besides, I haven't got any to spare.

It was very impressive how sharp the masking lines were. If the flocking is stuck down, it won't mix.

Jay!
04-19-2006, 11:42 PM
Added to the how-to thread list.
Glad you all like it.

Gionc also had a great additional idea for kits with symmetrical floor plans.

Make one mask, then put 2 pieces of tape together with "waxed paper" between them. Cut out one template shape, separate the tape and hey presto!, 2 ready shapes for flocking. Thanks for that Gio!
Brilliant!! Maybe edit that hot tip into the first post too? ;)

gionc
04-20-2006, 01:14 AM
At your service, Sir ;)

Also I'm impressed by MPWR 2 tones carpet: seem this tip have infinite possibilities: W KKK :)

Well, I don't think it well help much with orange peel or stripping paint but other than that... ;)

Glad you all like it.

Gionc also had a great additional idea for kits with symmetrical floor plans.

Make one mask, then put 2 pieces of tape together with "waxed paper" between them. Cut out one template shape, separate the tape and hey presto!, 2 ready shapes for flocking. Thanks for that Gio!

Lambo003
04-20-2006, 01:55 AM
Wicked!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

chato de shamrock
04-20-2006, 07:53 PM
I used this product years ago on my first model, except i used Elmer's glue and a small paint brush to spread the glue. Anyway, this technique might actually be better; however, i have a question. What exactly is the purpose of the baking sheet? I read the threat over and couldnt understand why we need the baking sheet. You use the Tamiya tape to make a model of the car's floor. You toss the flock into the carpet tape. You transfer the Tamiya tape model to the carpet tape and cut out the shape of the car's floor. I'm assuming this can be done before or after you put in the flock. So where, when, and why does the baking sheet come into play?

klutz_100
04-21-2006, 03:12 AM
I have a question. What exactly is the purpose of the baking sheet? I read the threat over and couldnt understand why we need the baking sheet. You use the Tamiya tape to make a model of the car's floor. You toss the flock into the carpet tape. You transfer the Tamiya tape model to the carpet tape and cut out the shape of the car's floor. I'm assuming this can be done before or after you put in the flock. So where, when, and why does the baking sheet come into play?

Sorry I wasn't clearer in the description.

The baking paper/waxed paper I guess is not "essential" per se, it's just something I used to make my life easier when working with sticky adnesive tape. It will cover the adhesive for working but can be easily peeled back off afterwards. The main time I used it was making the template of the floor plan.

If you stuck the adhesive side of your masking tape template to the backing paper of the flocked adhesive tape and then cut out your carpet you would in fact have a "mirror image" of what you really wanted! Therefore, you need to place your template "sticky side up". To avoid geting myself stuck to the template and also to keep it useful for future use again, I stuck it to the kitchen paper :)

I hope this made things clearer and not worse!!! :naughty: :lol:

With regard the order of the steps, of course you are right - you can do it anyway you want - I just wanted to get the basic idea across. I am sure there are many ways to improve this method - Gio and MPWR have already come up with a couple :bigthumb:

chato de shamrock
04-21-2006, 04:15 AM
I dont think it can be any more clearer. Thanks bro. Like i said before, i tried flocking on my first model and things came out ok, but since im a perfectionist, it wasnt good enough. My cars interior looked somewhat like MPWRs mat he made. Now i dont mean to knock off someone's work, but im just into detail and making my things as perfect as possible. Thats just how i am. The Elmers didnt hold the flocking too well even if i pressed on the flock to the glue. I was thinking of using paint but never did try it. Im going to try this method on a 79 Monte Carlo I've been wanting to finish.

nugundam93
04-22-2006, 12:42 PM
excellent tutorial! :D

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