Dynoed the car... Video-Carnage

So on Saturday I took my car to a local shop that has an in ground dynojet setup. Real nice guy and pretty decent priced too. Anyways, put it on the dyno and I was running pig rich the first couple of runs. Finally got it tuned decent by bumping up boost and leaning it out, still running 11.2-11.5:1 on C16 trying to lean it out by getting more boost out of the turbo.

At first I was running 15psi just to get a decent setting on DSMlink. BTW: 1600cc injectors work perfect with DSMlink if anyone was wondering. Decided to bump the boost up to 25 after the first couple of pulls. Then to 30. Made the first pull at 30psi and BOOM! The turbo explodes. Made 438whp and 357ft/lbs Tq at 6500rpms. Never saw 30psi on my boost gauge. Hit 26 then it blew. I looked back at the DSMLink log and I was flowing about 47lbs/min and I hit 26psi by 6300rpm where it died. The turbo is rated at 85lbs/min so I still had a ways to go!

Here is a video of the carnage and the dyno graph. Note: Watch the car by the passenger headlight when the RPMs really start winding up. You can see everything shift and the car move about 1/2 a foot on the dyno when the turbo went. Pretty interesting if you ask me. Talked to the guy I got the turbo from for warrenty purposes and I will have a new one in my hands by the middle/end of next week. Hopefully this doesnt happen again. I have a feeling it was a defective part.

http://media.putfile.com/Turbo-explosion

looks like ya need a new turbo.... DUH lol

Bondo will fix that right??

I would definately say defective part.

Ouch....poor turbo

Your car sounded like a fuckin jet in that video lol. Amazing shit man.

Wow! Did you do any damage to your internals. Any pices of the turbo go into the engine? What kind of turbo was that?

lucky all that metal didnt get in your motor. I didnt realize that you are fwd, what are you running for a tranny/clutch/lsd setup?

That sucks big time... What turbo was it?

Shitty deall. You'll be damn lucky if you didn't get shit inside the motor...with all those shards that came out when you tipped it upside down, I'd almost gurantee a bunch when inside the motor too.

lucky all that metal didnt get in your motor. I didnt realize that you are fwd, what are you running for a tranny/clutch/lsd setup?

I'm not FWD... Its called a VCE (viscous coupler eliminator) that allows you to dyno in FWD mode by just unbolting the transfer-case.


That sucks big time... What turbo was it?

PTE T70


Shitty deall. You'll be damn lucky if you didn't get shit inside the motor...with all those shards that came out when you tipped it upside down, I'd almost gurantee a bunch when inside the motor too.

Nothing got past the intercooler. Plus I have a 3.5" GM maf and they use a fine mesh screen on 1 side of it, there was nothing stuck to it nor was there any damage done to it. No worrys at all.

I'm not FWD... Its called a VCE (viscous coupler eliminator) that allows you to dyno in FWD mode by just unbolting the transfer-case.





I thought about that after I posted

PTE T70
Ouch, what kind of warrenty did they offer to you when you got it?


Nothing got past the intercooler. Plus I have a 3.5" GM maf and they use a fine mesh screen on 1 side of it, there was nothing stuck to it nor was there any damage done to it. No worrys at all.
The very reason I am not gonna remove the screening like everyone else does... Added safety. :icon16:

Well at least you didn't do any damage to the engine. Didn't you say the turbo was being replaced? Was it under waranty?

hmmmmm.....reminds me of one of those ssautochrome turbos...haha. Nice run though.

now i see why so many of you guys have problems with your turbo's... you do silly shit like this

now i see why so many of you guys have problems with your turbo's... you do silly shit like this

It's not like he was pushing it beyond it's limits or anything. What a dumbshit comment. How else are you supposed to dyno a car? The point is to find how much power you can make with your setup. Maybe he should try doing that at 10 psi? :screwy: The turbo was shit, that's why it broke. Think before you talk.

now i see why so many of you guys have problems with your turbo's... you do silly shit like this
Or because we want 500whp...

I don't...

I don't...
well you're gay...

What a dumbshit comment... Think before you talk.
:rofl: My thoughts exactly.

DAMN, that sucks man! Exactly what the fuck would cause it to go ka-boom like that?

Bondo aint shit, you'll need some JB weld for that bastard. ;)

I have a 1 year replacement warrenty on defective parts. Its obviously from a bad part. There is no way that compressor housing would blow out like that if there wasnt anything wrong with it.

yah, lol. damn... Atleast you have the warranty, just imagine if you didn't, how PISSED would you have been lol.

now i see why so many of you guys have problems with your turbo's... you do silly shit like this

Silly shit? What are you talking about? Go to www.dsmtimes.org and look how many people run 10s-9s and even a few running 8s. They all push their turbo exactly like I did. On a perfect tune, maxing the turbo out, it should put me in the 9s if I can keep the thing straight and drive decent. I'm shooting for a solid 10. Until you have a turbo car and/or even know how to achieve good power from it, dont give me your stupid comments.

Thanks.

yah, lol. damn... Atleast you have the warranty, just imagine if you didn't, how PISSED would you have been lol.

I know... Everyone of my friends kept saying they would be so pissed and I was laughing about it. I thought it was cool. I've never seen anything like it before and the fact that I still made 438whp at 6k when the turbo blew was even better. I still had 2-2.5k left to go. I had the redline set at 8500.

I wasnt pissed at all. The only thing that kinda bummed me out was that I couldnt race last Sunday and I was looking forward to that.

Like how loud was that, that musta hurt lol

Yeah, its definetly a defective part as that turbo is made to handle way more than 26psi... I'm thinking maybe there was an air pocket in the casting of the compressor housing... Have you talked to any representatives about it yet to see what they have to say?

When the turbo blew it sounded like a shotgun right next to your head. My buddy said when the car got up around 4k RPM, the tone of the exhaust put so much pressure on his chest he could hardly breath. He was at the back of the car.

I love it.

Yeah, its definetly a defective part as that turbo is made to handle way more than 26psi... I'm thinking maybe there was an air pocket in the casting of the compressor housing... Have you talked to any representatives about it yet to see what they have to say?

I sent them a video and the pictures and they said they have never seen anything like that before. They shipped me a new turbo out today and it should be here by mid next week. :D

Man, I hope your turbos hold together at the midwest meet. ;)

It better... If it does this again then I'll start to get a little pissed!

It better... If it does this again then I'll start to get a little pissed!
if it does it again, id say your car is way more powerful than you think, and it wants bigger :grinyes:

I sent them a video and the pictures and they said they have never seen anything like that before. They shipped me a new turbo out today and it should be here by mid next week. :D
Awesome. :thumbsup:

if it does it again, id say your car is way more powerful than you think, and it wants bigger :grinyes:


:iagree: lol

You've got the right attitude to make it with these cars ;) Have to deal with these things as they come. I feel the same way, shit happens, but I hate to miss out on racing. :)

Blew your turbo huh? A little J B Weld should fix that right up. :grinno:

WOW. The car sounded like a jet or something. I wonder why it blew...did the company say they want your old turbo back for research purposes?

Yeah, I have to send the turbo back when I get the new one.

Yeah, I have to send the turbo back when I get the new one.

Hopefully everything is good then. At that time you need to post another dyno video of everything working perfect.

Silly shit? What are you talking about? Go to www.dsmtimes.org and look how many people run 10s-9s and even a few running 8s. They all push their turbo exactly like I did. On a perfect tune, maxing the turbo out, it should put me in the 9s if I can keep the thing straight and drive decent. I'm shooting for a solid 10. Until you have a turbo car and/or even know how to achieve good power from it, dont give me your stupid comments.

Thanks.
yea, and exactly how does this help towards the life of their car. Sorry for the "Stupid Comments" but this can't be to heathly towards you vehical... I did a little research and I've come to the conclusion that The more upgraded a turbo DSM is, the more problems you seem to run into. This forum is littered with "turbo" problems.. and I can see why. And to be honest If I wanted a turbo car, and wanted to achieve good power from it, it Defently wouldn't be a DSM. I love Eclipses, but a factory 210hp turbo?? I can do better than that.

yea, and exactly how does this help towards the life of their car. Sorry for the "Stupid Comments" but this can't be to heathly towards you vehical... I did a little research and I've come to the conclusion that The more upgraded a turbo DSM is, the more problems you seem to run into. This forum is littered with "turbo" problems.. and I can see why. And to be honest If I wanted a turbo car, and wanted to achieve good power from it, it Defently wouldn't be a DSM. I love Eclipses, but a factory 210hp turbo?? I can do better than that.
Obviously you don't realize the power that DSMs are capable of with most of their factory parts... Oh and lets not forget that E-klips isn't running on a stock motor. The motor he built is designed to take that kind of abuse, so quit knockin on him about it. :wink:

yea, and exactly how does this help towards the life of their car. Sorry for the "Stupid Comments" but this can't be to heathly towards you vehical... I did a little research and I've come to the conclusion that The more upgraded a turbo DSM is, the more problems you seem to run into. This forum is littered with "turbo" problems.. and I can see why. And to be honest If I wanted a turbo car, and wanted to achieve good power from it, it Defently wouldn't be a DSM. I love Eclipses, but a factory 210hp turbo?? I can do better than that.
Cant handle working a few kinks out every now and then? Well, looks like you have the wrong car. http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=740 <-- Those guys should be able to help you out with finding a good, reliable car. Dont forget neon underbodies and huge wings add atleast 50 hp.

Do you really think he bolted that T70 on thinking it was good for the life of the car?

Of course a turbo car is going to have problems. Do you think a Civic pushing 200 hp is going to be as reliable as one with 110 hp? Hell no. You can talk about the higher stock hp cars, but believe me, you will be lucky to see more than 20-25 hp before you get into major modifications. Talon69 ran a 13.7 with a damn near stock car. Think any other cars can do that?

Sorry for the seemingly enraged (not mad at all) response, but E-Klips knows his shit and his car is built to take it.

you can always buy a toyota, them bitches run forever

I'm pretty sure I didn't say something like this before I ran my T67 setup on its last drag pass:

"I sure hope my motor live a long healthy life. It only has 167 miles on it since the last multi-thousnd dollar rebuild. Please God let it last 180k miles like a stock motor, idle like a cadillac, and get 40 miles per gallon after this pass."

No. It went more like this:

"I don't care if my 35 psi guage hits the pin, the knock light is on full solid through all 4 gears, the wheels fall off the car, turbine wheel comes out the exhaust, the steering wheel comes off in my hands, or I get a hangnail mid-stroke in the 2-3 shift, I'm getting kicked out for running a low 11 second pass with no roll cage TONIGHT."

That run cost me a motor, but also is the reason I learned 95% of the fuel system knowledge I share on a regular basis so others don't have to also learn the hard way. If you don't put down the keyboard and go out and try things, you'll never learn anything, and you'll be forced to spend the rest of your life making worthless unenlightening posts that do nothing but reveal the fact that you can't be jealous without showing it.

This isn't about the contest between you and your grandmother on who's car is going to last longer, it's about accomplishing what you set out to do. This isn't about DSMs being shitboxes compared to cars that run 4 seconds slower, it's about DSMers modifying the cars way beyond thier design limits and driving the bag out of them on a daily basis.

You have to pay to play. ;)

Exactly!!! Well put Kevin.


yea, and exactly how does this help towards the life of their car. Sorry for the "Stupid Comments" but this can't be to heathly towards you vehical... I did a little research and I've come to the conclusion that The more upgraded a turbo DSM is, the more problems you seem to run into. This forum is littered with "turbo" problems.. and I can see why. And to be honest If I wanted a turbo car, and wanted to achieve good power from it, it Defently wouldn't be a DSM. I love Eclipses, but a factory 210hp turbo?? I can do better than that.

Did it look like I was mad in the video because I just blew up my turbo? Nope... I was laughing about it and didnt care. Some people just dont understand. Racing is expensive. Making good power (ON A 4 CYLINDER) is expensive whether it is reliable or not. You had to research to find out that getting more power out of a DSM makes it less reliable? I thought this was common sense.

You say you can do better? Find me a turbocharged 4cyl sports car from 90-99 that has an awesome platform for power, easy/cheap to modify, looks good, has more or the same power, and can run 12s (1g) or 13s (2g) for less than $1000 in basic modifications. (I made it $1000 just so its a little easier on you. I was going to say $500-750 but I want you to prove me wrong.)

Exactly!!! Well put Kevin.




Did it look like I was mad in the video because I just blew up my turbo? Nope... I was laughing about it and didnt care. Some people just dont understand. Racing is expensive. Making good power (ON A 4 CYLINDER) is expensive whether it is reliable or not. You had to research to find out that getting more power out of a DSM makes it less reliable? I thought this was common sense.

You say you can do better? Find me a turbocharged 4cyl sports car from 90-99 that has an awesome platform for power, easy/cheap to modify, looks good, has more or the same power, and can run 12s (1g) or 13s (2g) for less than $1000 in basic modifications. (I made it $1000 just so its a little easier on you. I was going to say $500-750 but I want you to prove me wrong.)

Engine swap to a colt :licka: don't hate me but, what about the new turbo charged sky from SATURN LOLLOOLOLOLO :grinno: :grinno: sorry, I just saw an ad for it =P

or the new turbocharged rdx from acura, yes you heard right acura and turbo, from the factory :rolleyes:

I said factory, 90-99... Name a better car.

Cool vid. Glad to see you're getting another one for free. That would have been a lot of $ down the drain.

The RDX is a SUV, and the Colt is ugly, FWD, and probably a death trap. And isnt it the 4g63 thats usually swapped in anyway?

Good thing you video taped it, who knows what they would have done otherwise. They probably still would have covered it but who knows what if they didn't.