93 honda accord ex coupe 4 cyl with noise lifters
Kaill
04-08-2006, 01:56 PM
and one having this problem i have almost 140k on mine and i have tried to put a bit more thicker oil im running castrol gtx high miliage with a 10w30 and its still doing it the normal is the 5w30 and it was doing it then anyone know how to fix this problem either way will work if i have to replace or just tune i had a full tune up done to it and it didn't fix my problem or my shaking at idle :( but is anyone else having this problems with there lifters?
tru2037
04-08-2006, 03:24 PM
You can do a valve adjustment, if you had a full tune up (and they did the adjustment) it could've been done wrong, especially if its chattering. check the PCV valve & vaccum lines. With a 150k on it I hope the tune up they checked out the MAP and IAC sensors. It could even be the dist. cap.
I have a 93 also but with my "tune up" I replaced everything.
I have a 93 also but with my "tune up" I replaced everything.
Igovert500
04-10-2006, 04:06 PM
Well you seem sure it's lifter tick, so I wont bother asking.
If it is, thicker oil will only increase it. On my Mitsu, the holes on the lifters are only 1mm thick, so when the oil gets dirty, they start to tick. The only ways I know to stop it are thinner oil, frequenter oil changes, or replacing your lifters with ones with larger holes.
Obviously the oil changes aren't a permenant fix, but I found with thinner oil, and oil changes every 3k, I don't get it at all, except occassionally on really cold winter starts. Some say Redline oil also helps, although I have no personal experience with that.
As far as the vibrations, have you checked your motor mounts? Worn mounts are quite common in higher mileage Hondas. Might were shot at 140k on my 90 accord.
If it is, thicker oil will only increase it. On my Mitsu, the holes on the lifters are only 1mm thick, so when the oil gets dirty, they start to tick. The only ways I know to stop it are thinner oil, frequenter oil changes, or replacing your lifters with ones with larger holes.
Obviously the oil changes aren't a permenant fix, but I found with thinner oil, and oil changes every 3k, I don't get it at all, except occassionally on really cold winter starts. Some say Redline oil also helps, although I have no personal experience with that.
As far as the vibrations, have you checked your motor mounts? Worn mounts are quite common in higher mileage Hondas. Might were shot at 140k on my 90 accord.
jeffcoslacker
04-10-2006, 05:56 PM
Well you seem sure it's lifter tick, so I wont bother asking.
If it is, thicker oil will only increase it. On my Mitsu, the holes on the lifters are only 1mm thick, so when the oil gets dirty, they start to tick. The only ways I know to stop it are thinner oil, frequenter oil changes, or replacing your lifters with ones with larger holes.
Obviously the oil changes aren't a permenant fix, but I found with thinner oil, and oil changes every 3k, I don't get it at all, except occassionally on really cold winter starts. Some say Redline oil also helps, although I have no personal experience with that.
As far as the vibrations, have you checked your motor mounts? Worn mounts are quite common in higher mileage Hondas. Might were shot at 140k on my 90 accord.
Yup, in some cases using heavier oil is akin to trying to shove basketballs into tennis ball cans, it just doesn't work. It can actually DECREASE lubrication due to lower volume delivered to the tight areas.
If there's a chance your noise is sludge or varnish related rather than an adjustment issue, I've found Seafoam oil treatment to be an excellent product, it'll dissolve deposits that will make lifters and cam followers stick in their bore, and open up oil return and feed passages without sludging up the pump screen, like some overly aggressive cleaners will.
If it is, thicker oil will only increase it. On my Mitsu, the holes on the lifters are only 1mm thick, so when the oil gets dirty, they start to tick. The only ways I know to stop it are thinner oil, frequenter oil changes, or replacing your lifters with ones with larger holes.
Obviously the oil changes aren't a permenant fix, but I found with thinner oil, and oil changes every 3k, I don't get it at all, except occassionally on really cold winter starts. Some say Redline oil also helps, although I have no personal experience with that.
As far as the vibrations, have you checked your motor mounts? Worn mounts are quite common in higher mileage Hondas. Might were shot at 140k on my 90 accord.
Yup, in some cases using heavier oil is akin to trying to shove basketballs into tennis ball cans, it just doesn't work. It can actually DECREASE lubrication due to lower volume delivered to the tight areas.
If there's a chance your noise is sludge or varnish related rather than an adjustment issue, I've found Seafoam oil treatment to be an excellent product, it'll dissolve deposits that will make lifters and cam followers stick in their bore, and open up oil return and feed passages without sludging up the pump screen, like some overly aggressive cleaners will.
Palut
04-10-2006, 08:19 PM
If there's a chance your noise is sludge or varnish related rather than an adjustment issue, I've found Seafoam oil treatment to be an excellent product, it'll dissolve deposits that will make lifters and cam followers stick in their bore, and open up oil return and feed passages without sludging up the pump screen, like some overly aggressive cleaners will.
I'd recommend against Seafoam. I used the oil treatment, and then had the oil analyzed. It came back with a lead wear reading 5 times higher than average! I've had 4 or 5 analyses done since, and all show normal lead readings. Lead usually indicates bearing material. I believe that Seafoam can be corrosive to the engine itself.
I'd recommend against Seafoam. I used the oil treatment, and then had the oil analyzed. It came back with a lead wear reading 5 times higher than average! I've had 4 or 5 analyses done since, and all show normal lead readings. Lead usually indicates bearing material. I believe that Seafoam can be corrosive to the engine itself.
jeffcoslacker
04-10-2006, 10:36 PM
I'd recommend against Seafoam. I used the oil treatment, and then had the oil analyzed. It came back with a lead wear reading 5 times higher than average! I've had 4 or 5 analyses done since, and all show normal lead readings. Lead usually indicates bearing material. I believe that Seafoam can be corrosive to the engine itself.
first I've heard of it. My guess is you were seeing some of the break in coating from the mains that was deposited in the engine, and the Seafoam loosened it up and held it in suspension. If it had come from the lower layer of the bearing shells, you'd be replacing them by now...
first I've heard of it. My guess is you were seeing some of the break in coating from the mains that was deposited in the engine, and the Seafoam loosened it up and held it in suspension. If it had come from the lower layer of the bearing shells, you'd be replacing them by now...
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