**Warning** Frisket film can be dangerous
asaenz
02-01-2006, 05:52 AM
**Warning** Frisket film can be dangerous
to your artwork.
Alex said something and I was reminded to let you guys know about this.
I have tried Grafix Frisket Film, it sucks for hot/cold press paper. I used tick paper too and it still screws things up.
You are not supposed to let film stay on your art for long periods of time.
But even with the low tack Grafix film it will still leave residue or tear your paper (very little time). You need some time to apply your pastel/etc and cut your mask.
I had awesome results w/ Frisk Art Material film, but I can do longer find it on the web. I bought that product 4-5 years ago. I think Badger might have bought that company because I notice they actually have the term Frisket trade marked. I bought some Badger film and will test it on hot press paper.
That Frisk Art Mat. could be left on artwork for days w/ no problems at all. Sucky Grafix would mess paper up in 5 minutes.
I don't know perhaps my Grafix film was miss packaged. The label said low tack.
I followed the instruction exactly.
This Badger product looks promising. I will let you guys know.
I will run some tests in the art lab tonight.
a
to your artwork.
Alex said something and I was reminded to let you guys know about this.
I have tried Grafix Frisket Film, it sucks for hot/cold press paper. I used tick paper too and it still screws things up.
You are not supposed to let film stay on your art for long periods of time.
But even with the low tack Grafix film it will still leave residue or tear your paper (very little time). You need some time to apply your pastel/etc and cut your mask.
I had awesome results w/ Frisk Art Material film, but I can do longer find it on the web. I bought that product 4-5 years ago. I think Badger might have bought that company because I notice they actually have the term Frisket trade marked. I bought some Badger film and will test it on hot press paper.
That Frisk Art Mat. could be left on artwork for days w/ no problems at all. Sucky Grafix would mess paper up in 5 minutes.
I don't know perhaps my Grafix film was miss packaged. The label said low tack.
I followed the instruction exactly.
This Badger product looks promising. I will let you guys know.
I will run some tests in the art lab tonight.
a
asaenz
02-05-2006, 08:17 AM
Finished testing
- Bristol Smooth hot press paper 120lb or something like that (thick)
- Prisma pastels w/ powder
- Prisma markers
- Workable fixative sprayed on paper where pastel is applied
variables (what I'm testing)
- Grafix low tack .002 Vinyl Prepared Frisket Film
- Badger low tack .002 mm Foto/Frisket TM Film
results
Grafix: tack is too high for pastel even w/ workable fixative sprayed on the work. The film is placed on the work and left for 5 minutes. When it is removed some of the paper fibers come off w/ the film thus leaving your work messed up. It does fine on the marker portions of the work. I guess this really is just for airbrush artist. Remember pastels are very rough and graining in nature, giving the film more to stick to.
Badger: low tack is very low and thus best suited for pastels. It will not rip off paper fibers. I left the film on for 5 minutes. I then tried 24 hours under a heater vent. The film still did not tear the fibers. The heat test was to torture the film. Frisket film is not supposed to be left in the heat.
Bottom line:
If you are using pastels and perhaps graphite, use Badger film. It has a lower tack than Grafix (assuming the grafix that was sent to me wasn't miss labeled). If you are using an air brush grafix may be better suited as the paint isn't as rough as pastel and thus hopefully will not bind w/ the film tearing off paper.
- Bristol Smooth hot press paper 120lb or something like that (thick)
- Prisma pastels w/ powder
- Prisma markers
- Workable fixative sprayed on paper where pastel is applied
variables (what I'm testing)
- Grafix low tack .002 Vinyl Prepared Frisket Film
- Badger low tack .002 mm Foto/Frisket TM Film
results
Grafix: tack is too high for pastel even w/ workable fixative sprayed on the work. The film is placed on the work and left for 5 minutes. When it is removed some of the paper fibers come off w/ the film thus leaving your work messed up. It does fine on the marker portions of the work. I guess this really is just for airbrush artist. Remember pastels are very rough and graining in nature, giving the film more to stick to.
Badger: low tack is very low and thus best suited for pastels. It will not rip off paper fibers. I left the film on for 5 minutes. I then tried 24 hours under a heater vent. The film still did not tear the fibers. The heat test was to torture the film. Frisket film is not supposed to be left in the heat.
Bottom line:
If you are using pastels and perhaps graphite, use Badger film. It has a lower tack than Grafix (assuming the grafix that was sent to me wasn't miss labeled). If you are using an air brush grafix may be better suited as the paint isn't as rough as pastel and thus hopefully will not bind w/ the film tearing off paper.
stuffbyalex
02-05-2006, 03:02 PM
Thanks Al! Unfortunately my local art store only carries one type of frisket, (and it doesn't say the brand name), so I really don't have much of a choice. Usually I just stick the frisket on my shirt and rip it off a couple times to reduce the tackiness of it.
Alex
Alex
Mshkttck
02-05-2006, 03:48 PM
WTH is a frisket?
asaenz
02-06-2006, 10:05 AM
Thanks Al! Unfortunately my local art store only carries one type of frisket, (and it doesn't say the brand name), so I really don't have much of a choice. Usually I just stick the frisket on my shirt and rip it off a couple times to reduce the tackiness of it.
Alex
Great idea I will try that w/ the Grafix.
I did peel of some grafix and stick it to my drafting table and then applied it ot the work once, but it was still too tacky and tore the paper.
WTH is a frisket?
Mshkttck, it is sticky clear film used to help control color applications
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=frisket%20film&sa=N&tab=wi
Alex
Great idea I will try that w/ the Grafix.
I did peel of some grafix and stick it to my drafting table and then applied it ot the work once, but it was still too tacky and tore the paper.
WTH is a frisket?
Mshkttck, it is sticky clear film used to help control color applications
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=frisket%20film&sa=N&tab=wi
Mshkttck
02-06-2006, 02:28 PM
Thanks, lol
proudfordowner
02-07-2006, 06:37 AM
interesting... my brother was going to use it, i better tell him!!!!!!
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