98GCL heated seats problems
PaulKing
01-30-2006, 04:22 PM
My heated seats (http://www.automotivehelper.com/topic460292.htm#) stopped working recently and I don't know why. Both buttons seem to work properly and the light shows that the seats are on, but they don't get warm. Both went out at the same time so I am wondering if there is a fuse that I cannot find which controls them. Any ideas?:banghead: its coold here.
jtavares
02-02-2006, 08:50 AM
I would appreciate an answer to this one too as I have a similar problem except it's only one seat.
PaulKing
02-02-2006, 11:05 AM
I would appreciate an answer to this one too as I have a similar problem except it's only one seat.
ok, thanks jtavares
obrigado
ok, thanks jtavares
obrigado
nick0750
02-02-2006, 06:48 PM
NO: 08-03-99
SUBJECT: Inoperative heated seat.
DATE: Feb. 5, 1999
OVERVIEW:
This bulletin involves installing heated seat heating element repair kits.
SYMPTOM/CONDITION:
The heated seat may be inoperative due to an open circuit in the heating element located in the seat cover. The condition is usually present in the seat bottom. This Technical Service Bulletin provides a Repair Procedure, which eliminates the need to replace the seat bottom cover.
DIAGNOSIS:
Disconnect the 4 way connector under the seat bottom at the rear of the seat. Check continuity between pins A and B with a digital ohm meter on the seat side of the harness (See Figure 1). The Resistance should be between .9 and 1.4 ohms. If the circuit is open, Perform the Repair Procedure. If continuity is present and the resistance value are correct and the heated seat is inoperative, further diagnosis is present. Refer to the appropriate service manual for diagnostics.
PARTS REQUIRED:
Qty Part No. Description
2 05015478AA Heated Seat Repair Kit (2 required per seat)
REPAIR PROCEDURE:
Position the seatback in the half recline position to gain access to the fasteners.
Disconnect the wire harness from the seat assembly.
Remove the seat attaching nuts and remove the seat from the vehicle.
Remove the seat cushion side cover trim.
Remove the recliner to seat cushion bolts and inboard seat back to seat cushion bolt. Remove the seat back.
CAUTION: CARE MUST BE USED WHEN REMOVING THE COVER FROM THE SEAT BOTTOM. THE SEAT IS ATTACHED TO THE FOAM CUSHION WITH HOOK AND LOP FASTENERS. THESE CAN BE TORN WHEN THE COVER IS REMOVED. USE CARE TO CAREFULLY REMOVE THE COVER TO AVOID TEARING THE HOOK AND LOOP FASTENER FROM THE FOAM. IF THE FASTENER IS TORN IT MUST BE ATTACHED TO THE FOAM USING A SUITABLE ADHESIVE SUCH AS MOPAR SPRAY ADHESIVE, P/N 04856957 OR EQUIVALENT.
Disengage the seat cover J straps from the frame. Carefully remove the cover from the seat bottom making sure not to damage the hook and loop fastener on the foam cushion.
The system contains two heating elements per seat. Unplug the two wire connectors and check the continuity between the two terminals in each connector to determine which heating element is open (See Figure 1). The resistance should be .9 to 1.4 ohms. An infinite resistance indicates an open circuit. Each repair kit will repair one element. It is recommended that both elements be repaired even if only one is open.
Trace the wires into the foam and carefully slit the foam using a sharp knife, following the wires until the heating element solder joint is located (See Figure 2). This is the location the open circuit is usually found. Cut the harness from the element as close to the solder joint as possible. If the seat cover has a gray lining, it may be necessary to trim some of the fabric around the glue until the element is exposed. Remove all loose debris. It is not necessary to remove the glue from the cover. Do not discard the original harness. Some vehicles will require the use of the original two wire connector later.
There were two types of heating element used in production (See Figure 3). One has insulation on the wire and one does not. If the element has insulation on the wire, carefully strip one inch of the insulation from the element to allow for soldering. Pull the elements away from the cover enough to clear the foam for soldering. Trim the foam as necessary to provide adequate clearance for soldering.
The soldering procedure requires a technician skilled in soldering fine electrical/electronic wiring. Using a soldering iron and rosin core, solder the new harness to the heating element as shown in Figure 4. Do not use any soldering equipment utilizing an open flame for this procedure. This could damage the foam cushion. Make sure utilize the proper soldering procedures and heat the wire hot enough to melt the solder to avoid a cold solder joint. Cut piece of heat shrink tubing in half and install it on the wire as shown. Shrink the tubing using a heat gun.
Peel of the paper backing from the adhesive patch on the new harness and secure the harness to the cover as shown. The elements require at least one inch clearance between each other to eliminate the possibility of them shorting together. Make sure to route the wires as shown and install the cover patch to fully secure the new harness to the cover. Trim the cover patch as necessary to clear the hook and loop fasteners.
The new harness will plug into most of the existing seat harnesses. Some vehicles utilized a red insulator, which is keyed differently than the green insulator provided on the new harness. If the vehicle utilizes the red connector, it will have to be removed from the original harness and installed on the new harness using solder and heat shrink tubing as shown in Figure 5. Be sure to stagger the splices as shown.
Check continuity at both of the two wire connectors to assure good solder joint.
Repeat this process for the second heating element.
Install the seat cover to the seat bottom.
Install the seat back.
Install the seat and connect the harness.
SUBJECT: Inoperative heated seat.
DATE: Feb. 5, 1999
OVERVIEW:
This bulletin involves installing heated seat heating element repair kits.
SYMPTOM/CONDITION:
The heated seat may be inoperative due to an open circuit in the heating element located in the seat cover. The condition is usually present in the seat bottom. This Technical Service Bulletin provides a Repair Procedure, which eliminates the need to replace the seat bottom cover.
DIAGNOSIS:
Disconnect the 4 way connector under the seat bottom at the rear of the seat. Check continuity between pins A and B with a digital ohm meter on the seat side of the harness (See Figure 1). The Resistance should be between .9 and 1.4 ohms. If the circuit is open, Perform the Repair Procedure. If continuity is present and the resistance value are correct and the heated seat is inoperative, further diagnosis is present. Refer to the appropriate service manual for diagnostics.
PARTS REQUIRED:
Qty Part No. Description
2 05015478AA Heated Seat Repair Kit (2 required per seat)
REPAIR PROCEDURE:
Position the seatback in the half recline position to gain access to the fasteners.
Disconnect the wire harness from the seat assembly.
Remove the seat attaching nuts and remove the seat from the vehicle.
Remove the seat cushion side cover trim.
Remove the recliner to seat cushion bolts and inboard seat back to seat cushion bolt. Remove the seat back.
CAUTION: CARE MUST BE USED WHEN REMOVING THE COVER FROM THE SEAT BOTTOM. THE SEAT IS ATTACHED TO THE FOAM CUSHION WITH HOOK AND LOP FASTENERS. THESE CAN BE TORN WHEN THE COVER IS REMOVED. USE CARE TO CAREFULLY REMOVE THE COVER TO AVOID TEARING THE HOOK AND LOOP FASTENER FROM THE FOAM. IF THE FASTENER IS TORN IT MUST BE ATTACHED TO THE FOAM USING A SUITABLE ADHESIVE SUCH AS MOPAR SPRAY ADHESIVE, P/N 04856957 OR EQUIVALENT.
Disengage the seat cover J straps from the frame. Carefully remove the cover from the seat bottom making sure not to damage the hook and loop fastener on the foam cushion.
The system contains two heating elements per seat. Unplug the two wire connectors and check the continuity between the two terminals in each connector to determine which heating element is open (See Figure 1). The resistance should be .9 to 1.4 ohms. An infinite resistance indicates an open circuit. Each repair kit will repair one element. It is recommended that both elements be repaired even if only one is open.
Trace the wires into the foam and carefully slit the foam using a sharp knife, following the wires until the heating element solder joint is located (See Figure 2). This is the location the open circuit is usually found. Cut the harness from the element as close to the solder joint as possible. If the seat cover has a gray lining, it may be necessary to trim some of the fabric around the glue until the element is exposed. Remove all loose debris. It is not necessary to remove the glue from the cover. Do not discard the original harness. Some vehicles will require the use of the original two wire connector later.
There were two types of heating element used in production (See Figure 3). One has insulation on the wire and one does not. If the element has insulation on the wire, carefully strip one inch of the insulation from the element to allow for soldering. Pull the elements away from the cover enough to clear the foam for soldering. Trim the foam as necessary to provide adequate clearance for soldering.
The soldering procedure requires a technician skilled in soldering fine electrical/electronic wiring. Using a soldering iron and rosin core, solder the new harness to the heating element as shown in Figure 4. Do not use any soldering equipment utilizing an open flame for this procedure. This could damage the foam cushion. Make sure utilize the proper soldering procedures and heat the wire hot enough to melt the solder to avoid a cold solder joint. Cut piece of heat shrink tubing in half and install it on the wire as shown. Shrink the tubing using a heat gun.
Peel of the paper backing from the adhesive patch on the new harness and secure the harness to the cover as shown. The elements require at least one inch clearance between each other to eliminate the possibility of them shorting together. Make sure to route the wires as shown and install the cover patch to fully secure the new harness to the cover. Trim the cover patch as necessary to clear the hook and loop fasteners.
The new harness will plug into most of the existing seat harnesses. Some vehicles utilized a red insulator, which is keyed differently than the green insulator provided on the new harness. If the vehicle utilizes the red connector, it will have to be removed from the original harness and installed on the new harness using solder and heat shrink tubing as shown in Figure 5. Be sure to stagger the splices as shown.
Check continuity at both of the two wire connectors to assure good solder joint.
Repeat this process for the second heating element.
Install the seat cover to the seat bottom.
Install the seat back.
Install the seat and connect the harness.
nick0750
02-02-2006, 06:51 PM
I hope this helped the heated elements are aprox $20.00 ea at the dealer.
part number 5015478aa
part number 5015478aa
PaulKing
02-03-2006, 11:42 AM
NO: 08-03-99
SUBJECT: Inoperative heated seat.
DATE: Feb. 5, 1999
OVERVIEW:
This bulletin involves installing heated seat heating element repair kits.
SYMPTOM/CONDITION:
The heated seat may be inoperative due to an open circuit in the heating element located in the seat cover. The condition is usually present in the seat bottom. This Technical Service Bulletin provides a Repair Procedure, which eliminates the need to replace the seat bottom cover.
DIAGNOSIS:
Disconnect the 4 way connector under the seat bottom at the rear of the seat. Check continuity between pins A and B with a digital ohm meter on the seat side of the harness (See Figure 1). The Resistance should be between .9 and 1.4 ohms. If the circuit is open, Perform the Repair Procedure. If continuity is present and the resistance value are correct and the heated seat is inoperative, further diagnosis is present. Refer to the appropriate service manual for diagnostics.
PARTS REQUIRED:
Qty Part No. Description
2 05015478AA Heated Seat Repair Kit (2 required per seat)
REPAIR PROCEDURE:
Position the seatback in the half recline position to gain access to the fasteners.
Disconnect the wire harness from the seat assembly.
Remove the seat attaching nuts and remove the seat from the vehicle.
Remove the seat cushion side cover trim.
Remove the recliner to seat cushion bolts and inboard seat back to seat cushion bolt. Remove the seat back.
CAUTION: CARE MUST BE USED WHEN REMOVING THE COVER FROM THE SEAT BOTTOM. THE SEAT IS ATTACHED TO THE FOAM CUSHION WITH HOOK AND LOP FASTENERS. THESE CAN BE TORN WHEN THE COVER IS REMOVED. USE CARE TO CAREFULLY REMOVE THE COVER TO AVOID TEARING THE HOOK AND LOOP FASTENER FROM THE FOAM. IF THE FASTENER IS TORN IT MUST BE ATTACHED TO THE FOAM USING A SUITABLE ADHESIVE SUCH AS MOPAR SPRAY ADHESIVE, P/N 04856957 OR EQUIVALENT.
Disengage the seat cover J straps from the frame. Carefully remove the cover from the seat bottom making sure not to damage the hook and loop fastener on the foam cushion.
The system contains two heating elements per seat. Unplug the two wire connectors and check the continuity between the two terminals in each connector to determine which heating element is open (See Figure 1). The resistance should be .9 to 1.4 ohms. An infinite resistance indicates an open circuit. Each repair kit will repair one element. It is recommended that both elements be repaired even if only one is open.
Trace the wires into the foam and carefully slit the foam using a sharp knife, following the wires until the heating element solder joint is located (See Figure 2). This is the location the open circuit is usually found. Cut the harness from the element as close to the solder joint as possible. If the seat cover has a gray lining, it may be necessary to trim some of the fabric around the glue until the element is exposed. Remove all loose debris. It is not necessary to remove the glue from the cover. Do not discard the original harness. Some vehicles will require the use of the original two wire connector later.
There were two types of heating element used in production (See Figure 3). One has insulation on the wire and one does not. If the element has insulation on the wire, carefully strip one inch of the insulation from the element to allow for soldering. Pull the elements away from the cover enough to clear the foam for soldering. Trim the foam as necessary to provide adequate clearance for soldering.
The soldering procedure requires a technician skilled in soldering fine electrical/electronic wiring. Using a soldering iron and rosin core, solder the new harness to the heating element as shown in Figure 4. Do not use any soldering equipment utilizing an open flame for this procedure. This could damage the foam cushion. Make sure utilize the proper soldering procedures and heat the wire hot enough to melt the solder to avoid a cold solder joint. Cut piece of heat shrink tubing in half and install it on the wire as shown. Shrink the tubing using a heat gun.
Peel of the paper backing from the adhesive patch on the new harness and secure the harness to the cover as shown. The elements require at least one inch clearance between each other to eliminate the possibility of them shorting together. Make sure to route the wires as shown and install the cover patch to fully secure the new harness to the cover. Trim the cover patch as necessary to clear the hook and loop fasteners.
The new harness will plug into most of the existing seat harnesses. Some vehicles utilized a red insulator, which is keyed differently than the green insulator provided on the new harness. If the vehicle utilizes the red connector, it will have to be removed from the original harness and installed on the new harness using solder and heat shrink tubing as shown in Figure 5. Be sure to stagger the splices as shown.
Check continuity at both of the two wire connectors to assure good solder joint.
Repeat this process for the second heating element.
Install the seat cover to the seat bottom.
Install the seat back.
Install the seat and connect the harness.
Ok Nick thanks
I gona verify this, and I say you something later
thanks
SUBJECT: Inoperative heated seat.
DATE: Feb. 5, 1999
OVERVIEW:
This bulletin involves installing heated seat heating element repair kits.
SYMPTOM/CONDITION:
The heated seat may be inoperative due to an open circuit in the heating element located in the seat cover. The condition is usually present in the seat bottom. This Technical Service Bulletin provides a Repair Procedure, which eliminates the need to replace the seat bottom cover.
DIAGNOSIS:
Disconnect the 4 way connector under the seat bottom at the rear of the seat. Check continuity between pins A and B with a digital ohm meter on the seat side of the harness (See Figure 1). The Resistance should be between .9 and 1.4 ohms. If the circuit is open, Perform the Repair Procedure. If continuity is present and the resistance value are correct and the heated seat is inoperative, further diagnosis is present. Refer to the appropriate service manual for diagnostics.
PARTS REQUIRED:
Qty Part No. Description
2 05015478AA Heated Seat Repair Kit (2 required per seat)
REPAIR PROCEDURE:
Position the seatback in the half recline position to gain access to the fasteners.
Disconnect the wire harness from the seat assembly.
Remove the seat attaching nuts and remove the seat from the vehicle.
Remove the seat cushion side cover trim.
Remove the recliner to seat cushion bolts and inboard seat back to seat cushion bolt. Remove the seat back.
CAUTION: CARE MUST BE USED WHEN REMOVING THE COVER FROM THE SEAT BOTTOM. THE SEAT IS ATTACHED TO THE FOAM CUSHION WITH HOOK AND LOP FASTENERS. THESE CAN BE TORN WHEN THE COVER IS REMOVED. USE CARE TO CAREFULLY REMOVE THE COVER TO AVOID TEARING THE HOOK AND LOOP FASTENER FROM THE FOAM. IF THE FASTENER IS TORN IT MUST BE ATTACHED TO THE FOAM USING A SUITABLE ADHESIVE SUCH AS MOPAR SPRAY ADHESIVE, P/N 04856957 OR EQUIVALENT.
Disengage the seat cover J straps from the frame. Carefully remove the cover from the seat bottom making sure not to damage the hook and loop fastener on the foam cushion.
The system contains two heating elements per seat. Unplug the two wire connectors and check the continuity between the two terminals in each connector to determine which heating element is open (See Figure 1). The resistance should be .9 to 1.4 ohms. An infinite resistance indicates an open circuit. Each repair kit will repair one element. It is recommended that both elements be repaired even if only one is open.
Trace the wires into the foam and carefully slit the foam using a sharp knife, following the wires until the heating element solder joint is located (See Figure 2). This is the location the open circuit is usually found. Cut the harness from the element as close to the solder joint as possible. If the seat cover has a gray lining, it may be necessary to trim some of the fabric around the glue until the element is exposed. Remove all loose debris. It is not necessary to remove the glue from the cover. Do not discard the original harness. Some vehicles will require the use of the original two wire connector later.
There were two types of heating element used in production (See Figure 3). One has insulation on the wire and one does not. If the element has insulation on the wire, carefully strip one inch of the insulation from the element to allow for soldering. Pull the elements away from the cover enough to clear the foam for soldering. Trim the foam as necessary to provide adequate clearance for soldering.
The soldering procedure requires a technician skilled in soldering fine electrical/electronic wiring. Using a soldering iron and rosin core, solder the new harness to the heating element as shown in Figure 4. Do not use any soldering equipment utilizing an open flame for this procedure. This could damage the foam cushion. Make sure utilize the proper soldering procedures and heat the wire hot enough to melt the solder to avoid a cold solder joint. Cut piece of heat shrink tubing in half and install it on the wire as shown. Shrink the tubing using a heat gun.
Peel of the paper backing from the adhesive patch on the new harness and secure the harness to the cover as shown. The elements require at least one inch clearance between each other to eliminate the possibility of them shorting together. Make sure to route the wires as shown and install the cover patch to fully secure the new harness to the cover. Trim the cover patch as necessary to clear the hook and loop fasteners.
The new harness will plug into most of the existing seat harnesses. Some vehicles utilized a red insulator, which is keyed differently than the green insulator provided on the new harness. If the vehicle utilizes the red connector, it will have to be removed from the original harness and installed on the new harness using solder and heat shrink tubing as shown in Figure 5. Be sure to stagger the splices as shown.
Check continuity at both of the two wire connectors to assure good solder joint.
Repeat this process for the second heating element.
Install the seat cover to the seat bottom.
Install the seat back.
Install the seat and connect the harness.
Ok Nick thanks
I gona verify this, and I say you something later
thanks
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