Have you guys seen this? 2007 RSX-RS

http://www.automotivearena.com/forums/t47826-preview-2007-acura-rsxrs.html

Ran across this car. Looks like it will be a monster

Tried - even after registering at that site I can't view that page.....

Can't see it either, but I haven't yet seen any credible info on the 07 RSX, some people say it'llbe discontinued, others say it'll be a complete revamp.

Apparently the member who posted the original thread was banned earlier and admitted it was a fraud which is why we can't view the threads (they got deleted or moved out).

The article said that the 5Axis 2006 RSX A-Spec was the new RSX and for 43K USD you could get a 315 hp AWD RSX. Yeah, right.

My bet is that it will be discontinued. That new Civic Si seems to be a replacement. I think the RSX will have a hard time selling seeing that the Civic will probably handle better and possibly be just as fast or maybe even a tad faster. If they do keep it around they'll have to put in a quicker engine in the RSX if they plan on people buying it.

My bet is that it will be discontinued. That new Civic Si seems to be a replacement. I think the RSX will have a hard time selling seeing that the Civic will probably handle better and possibly be just as fast or maybe even a tad faster. If they do keep it around they'll have to put in a quicker engine in the RSX if they plan on people buying it.
I think you may be right. The RSX has probably given Acura somewhat of a bad name what with the 2nd gear grind issues. And I notice that there are no more two door models in the Acura lineup.

Who knows - maybe I'm wrong and they want to maintain a sporty, relatively inexpensive entry-level model.

You're definitely right though about competing with their own Civic. Unless Honda is becoming like GM in their success, or they know something about marketing that we don't!

Honestly, I really haven't kept up to date with RSX trends and whether it will be discontinued or not. Its will on my car purchase 07 list, but I haven't heard anything either way

I don't know if the introduction of the Civic Si is going to hurt the RSX as much as you think. Look at Nissan: they've got the 350Z and Infiniti has the G35 coupe. These are almost exactly the same cars, and yet they sell both to different kinds of buyers. I'm betting Honda is thinking along these lines. Personally, I would never really consider driving a Civic, but an Acura appeals to me. Subaru and Saab are persuing a similar marketing strategy as well with the WRX and 9-2x. Although essentially the same cars, the luxury levels and brand names attract different classes of buyers.

I don't know if the introduction of the Civic Si is going to hurt the RSX as much as you think. Look at Nissan: they've got the 350Z and Infiniti has the G35 coupe. These are almost exactly the same cars, and yet they sell both to different kinds of buyers. I'm betting Honda is thinking along these lines. Personally, I would never really consider driving a Civic, but an Acura appeals to me. Subaru and Saab are persuing a similar marketing strategy as well with the WRX and 9-2x. Although essentially the same cars, the luxury levels and brand names attract different classes of buyers.
Right you are......

I was considering a Civic coupe when I bought my RSX, but I just couldn't stomach the styling and ponied up a few extra semolians for the Acura. Call me old, but I preferred the base model because it would be less expensive to operate than Type-S. So the performance is about the same as Civic, but the styling was what sold me.

Honda is just looking less and less appealing to me unless you go the straight luxury route (TL, RL). I really don't like the new Civic design at all. If the RSX is discontinued, that'll take me right out of the Honda sport compact arena. S2000 is nice, but I have a huge hard-on building for the new Lexus IS and the Nissan lineup is tempting. Hate to be a traitor, but unless Honda WOWS me before my payments are up, I'm thinking of defecting.

I don't know if the introduction of the Civic Si is going to hurt the RSX as much as you think. Look at Nissan: they've got the 350Z and Infiniti has the G35 coupe. These are almost exactly the same cars, and yet they sell both to different kinds of buyers. I'm betting Honda is thinking along these lines. Personally, I would never really consider driving a Civic, but an Acura appeals to me. Subaru and Saab are persuing a similar marketing strategy as well with the WRX and 9-2x. Although essentially the same cars, the luxury levels and brand names attract different classes of buyers.
True, but if they take the route that GM has, they'll be swamped with cars that compete with each other and won't be able to make profits off their inter-competing cars. Right now those 350's and G35's are mainly competing against other makes - Lexus, Acura. As far as driving a Honda vs. Acura, I would take the car that has the best engine/handling/etc. for the price. After all, Acura is Honda. When it comes to Saab I can't see myself paying almost $10k for a "rebadged" WRX just because it's more "luxurious". Car makers have been doing this for quite a while.

Let's wait and see what happens when China enters the automobile market. Things are going to change drastically in the auto industry!

As far as driving a Honda vs. Acura, I would take the car that has the best engine/handling/etc. for the price.

Although this may be true for you, we have to take into account that the majority of the country are not driving entusiasts. Many people, would buy an Acura over a Honda for several reasons. For one, the styling is much more conservate and appealing (I think at least). The interiors are more comfortable and have more amentities and upscale options. Although structurally an Acura and a Honda may be identical, the large portion of American car buyers go more for the appeal factor then the driving performance, even if it does cost them more money.

As for GM competing with themselves, they must be doing something right considering they're one of the largest automotive companies in the world. I'm sure Honda has done the market research and economic analysis and has deemed using the same platforms for multiple products more profitable than developing separate components for each model they roll off the line, even if they ultimately do compete with themselves.

As for GM competing with themselves, they must be doing something right considering they're one of the largest automotive companies in the world. I'm sure Honda has done the market research and economic analysis and has deemed using the same platforms for multiple products more profitable than developing separate components for each model they roll off the line, even if they ultimately do compete with themselves.

Oh yeah GM is just soaring

Falling SUV sales drag Ford, GM lower (http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9580381/)

GM dealt another setback with SEC subpoen (http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9831775/)

GM hasn't been doing anything right for a long time. They are just not getting their act together as they get beat up by foreign and domestic competitors

GM themselvs admit their multiple brands cannibalize each other sales, which is why they are cutting back

As for Honda, I've never been very interested in anything they've had to offer, and though the Civic Si I like, its definately not my favourite. In Acrua I love the RSX and the Tl,but if the RSX stops production, theres really no point in looking at Acura for a 20 year old

Honda is just looking less and less appealing to me unless you go the straight luxury route (TL, RL). I really don't like the new Civic design at all. If the RSX is discontinued, that'll take me right out of the Honda sport compact arena. S2000 is nice, but I have a huge hard-on building for the new Lexus IS and the Nissan lineup is tempting. Hate to be a traitor, but unless Honda WOWS me before my payments are up, I'm thinking of defecting.
Wow, reading this is scary. I'm thinking of giving up, what with a transmission rebuild on an Acura with 50K miles.........I went Japanese because I thought I was buying the highest quality, most reliable car available (Honda or Toyota). Even my Olsmobile waited until it had 90K miles before its tranny requested a rebuild!

Definitely not interested in Nissan what with their reliability issues. Now they are scrambling to recover market share and are rolling out new models at a blistering pace - makes me wonder if they can do that much simultaneously and well.

Lexus too sickly sweet for my blood, and no two-door IS. Too expensive for me; I should have gone into horticulture I guess after all!

Oh yeah GM is just soaring

...theres really no point in looking at Acura for a 20 year old

For one, I'd like you to go back and reread my post. Nowhere was it ever stated that GM was the most successful car company. I am completely aware of their problems. I simply stated that GM was one of the largest companies in the industy and despite all their trouble, there must be something they are doing right. And, if they realize that their intracompetition was hurting them, why are they continuing to release

As for you second point about 20 year olds looking at Acuras, what about the TSX? Acura's entry level 4 door is appealing to many college graduates. Honda reliability plus handling revered by "Car and Driver" with conservative good looks attracts buyers from the 20-35 year old range.

For one, I'd like you to go back and reread my post. Nowhere was it ever stated that GM was the most successful car company. I am completely aware of their problems. I simply stated that GM was one of the largest companies in the industy and despite all their trouble, there must be something they are doing right. And, if they realize that their intracompetition was hurting them, why are they continuing to release

As for you second point about 20 year olds looking at Acuras, what about the TSX? Acura's entry level 4 door is appealing to many college graduates. Honda reliability plus handling revered by "Car and Driver" with conservative good looks attracts buyers from the 20-35 year old range.
Actually, the only reason that they're still around is because they are the largest automobile maker. They were doing things right until the last few years where they introduced so many models that they compete with each other. Not only that, but their styling has lacked appeal to buyers.

Over the last 10 or so years they've been taking a beating by other automotive makers that have stayed with less models that they keep on making better.

The only other reason they recouped from the recent cuts was the employee pricing. I don't see how they will make money if auto makers sell their cars for virtually no profit.

Like I said before, wait and see what happens when China enters the North American market. I'm sure GM and Ford are going to take a big hit!

As far as the TSX goes, most 20 year olds probably won't buy it seeing that it is more of a family car, out of their price range, and is not sporty enough for them. Most would go for an RSX/Civic Si/WRX/EVO. I think that C&D likes to put things in their magazine to boost sales for a certain model. Just my opinon.

For one, I'd like you to go back and reread my post. Nowhere was it ever stated that GM was the most successful car company. I am completely aware of their problems. I simply stated that GM was one of the largest companies in the industy and despite all their trouble, there must be something they are doing right. And, if they realize that their intracompetition was hurting them, why are they continuing to release

As for you second point about 20 year olds looking at Acuras, what about the TSX? Acura's entry level 4 door is appealing to many college graduates. Honda reliability plus handling revered by "Car and Driver" with conservative good looks attracts buyers from the 20-35 year old range.

Size doesn't mean good decision making, or quality...and if you think losing market share to foreign and domestic rivals means your doing the right things, I don't want you as my CEO

2nd point, I haven't met anybody graduating from university at the age of 20, and I don't know anybody within 20-25 who actually looks at a TSX as a trendy car fit for them... I don't care about 34 year olds being attracted to TSX because their not near 20 and share little with 20 year olds

The TSX is in the range of the Subaru Legacy, and Volvo S40..4 door relatively fuel effecient FAMILY cars

The cars marketed to the younger car buyers (aka not 35) are more like Chevy Cobalt SS, Dodge Srt-4, Acura RSX, Subaru WRX, Toyota Celica (not anymore), and to a lesser extend a Ford Mustang

Want an example look at S777, young car buyer has an RSX type S...now that he is looking for a new car, he is NOT considering a TSX...a perfect example of what I am saying



DAMN you Mmont0! I didn't actually read your post and I posted the same friggin ideas! Im not taking it down now

Then you obviously dont' know many college age kids. As a college student, many of my friends and I are looking at the Audi A3 and A4, Volvo s40 (yes, a volvo), BMW 330, Infiniti G35...I dont' know anybody looking at Dodge, Chevy, etc. We all want something fun, but practical, that we can take business partners/clients out in without looking too much like a kid. We also need something with decent longevity and reliability.
Many of us just like a more refined, practical car. One of my friends graduated last year and bought a Mercedes SLK320.

So before you go presuming what kind of vehicles the 20-25 year olds are looking at, go talk to a few.

Then you obviously dont' know many college age kids. As a college student, many of my friends and I are looking at the Audi A3 and A4, Volvo s40 (yes, a volvo), BMW 330, Infiniti G35...I dont' know anybody looking at Dodge, Chevy, etc. We all want something fun, but practical, that we can take business partners/clients out in without looking too much like a kid. We also need something with decent longevity and reliability.
Many of us just like a more refined, practical car. One of my friends graduated last year and bought a Mercedes SLK320.

So before you go presuming what kind of vehicles the 20-25 year olds are looking at, go talk to a few.
I think that you're basing your ideas on the elite class of people that you hang out with. The majority of kids that graduate or don't, for that matter, are not in your class that can afford a $30k+ automobile. So they are looking at cars that cost less. For that matter, most 20 year olds that are in college really can't afford the luxury items unless they have well-to-do parents. And most of them have student loans to pay right after they graduate.

Another point I would like to make is that most 20 year olds aren't worried about business partners and clients. I think the 25+ year olds are just beginning to think about this. But if you're already there, I applaud you for having initiative to do so. I wish the best in whatever you do. :bigthumb:

I do agree with you that the younger generation tends to stay away from American cars, though. I've seen more and more people in that age group driving imports.

Peace.

mason - Sorry for taking your thunder!

I assure you that the key demographic of Benz owners aren't under 30.

The 25 and under crowd usually buys into the sport compact area, not neccesarily the ons you hang out with, but in general they tend to go for 350Zs, RSXs, cars like that.

There's a difference between the actual facts (which point to younger adults being into WRXs, SRTs, etc.) rather than you're example (which is somewhat of an isolated example. In my area most homes have red bricks on the outside, does that mean that every house in the country has red bricks? Same applies to above.

Then you obviously dont' know many college age kids. As a college student, many of my friends and I are looking at the Audi A3 and A4, Volvo s40 (yes, a volvo), BMW 330, Infiniti G35...I dont' know anybody looking at Dodge, Chevy, etc. We all want something fun, but practical, that we can take business partners/clients out in without looking too much like a kid. We also need something with decent longevity and reliability.
Many of us just like a more refined, practical car. One of my friends graduated last year and bought a Mercedes SLK320.

So before you go presuming what kind of vehicles the 20-25 year olds are looking at, go talk to a few.

If true, you are the exception, not the rule. If you think the average college graduate is snapping up SLKs and BMWs in this economic climate, then you are the one who is completely deluded and out of touch. Then again, you do sound a bit like the typical arrogant, soft and pampered, overly optimistic university kid (aka: deluded) who's major and future prospects for employment allow him the luxury of running his mouth a little. Apparently, you don't know many "real life" college age kids. You know- those plebes who have to work their way up and shovel some shit while building a little character and an appreciation for the finer things. Enjoy your SLKs, but please don't claim to represent or speak on behalf of a demographic...you'll just embarrass yourself.