Dont screw with me when you owe me money.

Kid bought my rx-7. Gave me 250 up front, and drove the car away. I still have the title. I've been bugging him for the last 750 for a couple weeks now, and he's said that he's "sent it in the mail" twice now. YEah, right. In the whirwind which was the breakup of me and the ex, i lost the bill of sale, and consequently, the guys name and address. All i have to go on right now is his phone number, which i traced to (waht i assume) is his dad, in providence. Unfortunatley, all the trace gave me was the city, not the address.

what the hell do i do.... legally that is.

I guess you sold it for 250 since you let him take it.

Better start looking for that bill of sale real hard.....

The kid probably figures he paid too much in the first place. No?

If you want the full address from the phone number go to www.smartpages.com and do a reverse-lookup. This will work unless it is a cell-phone. But since you lost the bill of sale you are pretty much screwed. You could take him to small claims court but, you don't even have his name or address so it'll be pretty hard to do that. Even if he did show for court you have no documentation of how much the car was "actually" sold for. Next time either get all the money up-front or, hold on to your paperwork. Peace-

Find him, take the car away leaving a cheque for $250 in it's place (and make sure it bounces).

...or
Report it as stolen

why would you let him take it without getting the full price in the first place?

Oz is onto it. He has your car, which is titled in your name. That's the bottom line. There is NO bill of sale.

I'd call him, tell him to bring the $750, cash, in person, or the car back by a certain date or time. Then at that date and time, report the car stolen if he hasn't come by. Done deal.

Oh, yea if you still have the title you can report it stolen or even repo it. Good thinking dude. Peace-

I'm with Oz and Fred, more Oz though. Report the damned thing stolen, get your car back and come out $250 ahead.

I'm with Oz and Fred, more Oz though. Report the damned thing stolen, get your car back and come out $250 ahead.

would they let you keep the $250 ? i can only assume they would if you argued that he "gave" it to you, since he gave you money, took the car (you consented to that, he didnt grab the keys and run) and you still got the title.

if there's no way he can prove he gave you the $250 for the car (bill of sale), then it's yours.

if there's no way he can prove he gave you the $250 for the car (bill of sale), then it's yours.

ooooh i get it.

I'll have to agree with what's said about the Reporting it stolen. He obviously thinks he's getting the best of you, so prove him wrong :smile:.

Report it stolen, its still in your name. What bill of sale? Is there any proof he gave you the money? The way I see it, he tried to screw you and you will come out on top...

Yeah, i've actaully had a ton of people suggest that i report it as stolen, and i've been thinking about it.

The only problem I forsee is if he still has HIS bill of sale.. you know the standard I so and so sell this car balh balh to so and so for such and such an amount.

But the true point is that until i get that last bit of money, its MY car, just like if you take a loan from a bank to buy a car, its the BANKS car, not yours... and they repossess stuff all the time.

Jesus this is such a PITA. Never again.

Hey, if the BOS says that he is to pay you 1000, and he hasn't, he hasn't adhered to it so the vehicle is not his.

PITA yes, but you've got him by the short and curlies.

would they let you keep the $250 ? i can only assume they would if you argued that he "gave" it to you, since he gave you money, took the car (you consented to that, he didnt grab the keys and run) and you still got the title.
WHAT $250 ??? I don't remember any $250 !!! Do you, Steel ???



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i said something about $250 ? must'a posted in the wrong forum, i have no idea what thats about...

Nor do I.

So Steel, how about an update?

No updates so far. I've been busy as hell and not been able to follow up on this shit.

updates as they come.

Tell the cops what you want them to hear...

The kid has my car. I let him have the keys a few weeks ago, he was supposed to come back, we agreed on that. He never came back. I have the title. I want my car back.


they'll probably have some tough questions like "Why did you give him the keys." Tough question but again, tell them only what you want them to hear...

He threatened you.

Do what a friend and I did: take it in the middle of the night. One of my friends cosigned for a girlfriend, they split up, he ended up making the payments. 2 months later we found the truck, he still had keys, he got in it, started it, I called the house talked to her told her to look out the window, now you see it now you don't, if you want the truck back get it financed on your own, otherwise its gone. Worked pretty good, she called to report it stolen, we had already called the local pd told them we were taking it and why.

yea, he said he only has a phone number, he lost the thing with the address on it. so it would take ages to search for the car, if you even find it.

hey man if you find the car, i've got a sledgehammer with that bastard's name on it.....and a couple of gearheads down in Providence who know how to do crazy damage..... :evillol:

but it must be around somewhere, good luck with finding the bill man

there's ways. Hogie - apparently this guy is a wrench, so if your buddies knows of anyone touting their new TII, lemme know. I'd rather not have it sledgehammered. I just want my money.

i dont think he meant smash the car up with the sledgehammer.......lol

I meant kneecaps *evil laugh*

Don't forget the guy probably still has his bill of sale, so going to the cops may not do much. Does the bill of sale state the terms of payment... $250 now, $750 later, and all that?

Don't forget the guy probably still has his bill of sale, so going to the cops may not do much. Does the bill of sale state the terms of payment... $250 now, $750 later, and all that?

er, no i dont think so.

But the #1 fact here is that *I* still have the title, and I still own the car, and i can repossess it if i so desire.

If you were to go to court after buying a car, but you didnt get the title, the judge would say you're SOL for not getting the title.

Exactly... do you know anybody that knows a lot about the law? Talk to somebody for advice if you can, and then phone the kid and explain to him that you will be taking the car back...

Any luck finding his address using his phone number?

report it as stolen. once you see him driving call cops on vehicle for "erratic driving" that will get the cops to him faster. just a thought

I'm with Oz and Fred, more Oz though. Report the damned thing stolen, get your car back and come out $250 ahead.

I like that idea