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95 for contor wont start.


MonteCarloChic
08-30-2005, 06:03 PM
I cant afford to take to a mechanic and i perfer to do some of the work myself or my brother to do it. Anyways the 95 ford contour wont crank when it did run i took it to midas they said i needed a new fuel filter and needed an injection cleaning. when it finally started to mess up and stop running all together it would stall in the middle of the road making all panel lights come one and the windshield wipers come on. It has been sitting in the DW for about a year now due to no help. I changed the fuel filter and it still wont crank i dont have a manual and dont know where much is on fords.( more of a chevy chic.) i read a post where the guy had to have the fuel pump changed well i dont think i want to go that route altho its cheaper in louisiana for the part it is $113. i can have the part put on by my brother.
Any ideas? could it be a cloged injector? if so where are they located.

Thanks

beyondloadedSE
08-30-2005, 08:30 PM
so it wont crank. Is your battery dead?

Could be a bad alternator and your battery is now dead.

MonteCarloChic
08-30-2005, 11:48 PM
no battery is new and has been fully charged as of recently.
I was thinking that about the altinator too then someone said the injectors might be clogged.

MonteCarloChic
08-30-2005, 11:51 PM
with not cranking i mean it wont fire off it makes the crank up noise. but it wont catch/fire. like its getting no fuel

beyondloadedSE
08-31-2005, 01:36 PM
with not cranking i mean it wont fire off it makes the crank up noise. but it wont catch/fire. like its getting no fuel

ok. in that case, it cranks, but doesnt turn over. did you check the fuel bleeder valve to make sure you have fuel pressure?

MonteCarloChic
08-31-2005, 04:24 PM
No, Where is the bleeder valve? I dont have any type of manual and there is no diagram that i could find.

NavyGuy
08-31-2005, 08:10 PM
might try making sure battery connections are good. those connections can be awfully tricky. remove them and clean them up if there's any corrosion on it whatsoever. also, is air filter clean?

NavyGuy

MonteCarloChic
09-01-2005, 10:07 AM
Yes the connections are clean and in tackt. The airfilter is new. It has a new fuel filter also. I believe it is not getting any gas to the engine is why its not firing. I changed the spark plugs and wires about 400 miles ago. Dont know what else it could be i dont want to belive it is the fuel pump. Praying its not that that would be impossible for me to deal with right now. Anyways where is the bleeder valve?

jeffjeff
09-02-2005, 09:00 PM
Yes the connections are clean and in tackt. The airfilter is new. It has a new fuel filter also. I believe it is not getting any gas to the engine is why its not firing. I changed the spark plugs and wires about 400 miles ago. Dont know what else it could be i dont want to belive it is the fuel pump. Praying its not that that would be impossible for me to deal with right now. Anyways where is the bleeder valve?
You might want to check your wires, the red ones that connect with postive on battery. There is a recall on wiring harness, lot of the wire insulation is cracked open. Since you mentioned wipers and panel lights coming on when its not suppose too. Mine are cracked bad on my 95. The little wires leading to fuel injectors are cracked bad on mine, make sure yours are not touching each other, there are 2 to each injector. Wires elsewhere maybe now touching due to insulation cracking.

hallboy
09-04-2005, 07:32 AM
It really sound like a fuel delivery issue. When it is quiet turn the key to the on position and listen very close to the back end of your car. do you hear a slight hum or buzz. That is your fuel pump. If you don't hear it you need to be sure you have power to it. If you do then you really need to look a cleaning it or replacing it. I believe you can pull out the back seat and pull the pump from there. I have not done this on this car but from other members it sounds pretty straight forward. There is a mesh screen that can get really clogged. If this issue was not sudden but started getting worse and worse it could really be a possibility. Check E-bay for parts. We all sell stuff there for good prices. Try cleaning it first. I agree with beyound laoded SE about the bleeder valve check. I am sorry I can't find my book to tell you where it is exactly. (Can anyone help with the location)?
Good luck my friend
Hallboy

hallboy
09-04-2005, 07:39 AM
The other issue is as Jeff said...wiring. I also have a 95 4cyl. The front wiring harness is something I am in pursuit of because ford wants an arm and a leg. I pulled the front section up piece at a time and wraped it with tape and pull wire loom on it to help till I find the part I need. If you look you will see that from the A/C on the left of the engine bay to the far right side that the wires are most likely fubared. One other little thought... under the engine about mid way there is a plug near the PCV valve. It is connected to the trans I think. Anyway i unhooked it to replace my valve and forgot to plug it back in. The engine would turn over but not start. The clips are brittle and broken but it stayed on.

way2old
09-05-2005, 04:14 PM
Did you ever get the answer I sent to you when you e mailed me the question????????? I see no reference to it in this thread and no reply.??????????? Let us know the outcome.

MonteCarloChic
09-07-2005, 04:12 PM
couldnt find the bleeder valve, but i did pull out the back seat and there is what looks to be something to do witht he fuel pump havent tryed to take of the plate thing yet its been to hot outside to do so. but ya that fuel pump was a possibility that i was hopeing it wasnt , when i get it off i will update more on it. :)

MonteCarloChic
09-08-2005, 07:37 AM
[the fuel pump looks fairly new/clean and there was fuel in the white valve in the top hoses, so i dont think it is the fuel pump i think there might be a clogged injector in the engine somewhere

way2old
09-08-2005, 12:41 PM
Have you checked the CCRM, ignition module and inertia switch??

MonteCarloChic
09-08-2005, 05:26 PM
Have you checked the CCRM, ignition module and inertia switch??
uh no where would it be. remember guys im a female here =P good news is its not the fuel pump , bad news it no clue whats wrong with it

way2old
09-08-2005, 07:20 PM
The inertia switch is located inside the trunk mounted on the inside of the trim. There is a button on the top that needs to be depressed. The ignition module is located on the side of the distributor and has about 6 or 7 wires going to it.
The CCRM is located above the radiator under the little plastic cover. This holds all the relays. You stated the fuel pump is good, does it run when key is on? If so, the CCRM and inertia switch is good.

MonteCarloChic
09-08-2005, 09:21 PM
uh no where would it be. remember guys im a female here =P good news is its not the fuel pump , bad news it no clue whats wrong with it
I couldnt hear a humming comming from it and this is after i removed the back seat.

way2old
09-09-2005, 06:10 AM
The pump will only run for about 2 seconds after the key is turned on. Hook up a test light to the pump wiring and see if there is current for a couple of seconds when the pump is turned on. It test light lights up, the pump is bad. If the light does not light, check wiring for a break, or the CCRM to see if there is current coming out of it to the pump.
Go to this site and find your engine and click on the diagram you need.
http://www.autozone.com/servlet/UiBroker?ForwardPage=/az/cds/en_us/0900823d/80/1e/b3/2d/0900823d801eb32d.jsp
I have found out over the years that a female can remember more than a male can ever hope to. :lol2:
Your car does have spark, correct?

richie41
09-09-2005, 07:39 PM
I cant afford to take to a mechanic and i perfer to do some of the work myself or my brother to do it. Anyways the 95 ford contour wont crank .... i dont have a manual and dont know where much is on fords.( more of a chevy chic.) ...
Any ideas? could it be a cloged injector? if so where are they located.

Thanks

Sounds like we're paddling down the same river. I found some really good "How To" instructions and vehicle repair guides on the http://www.autozone.com/ webpage.

You can input your car's information, and then get the instruction for just about anything that you want to do to your car. And more importantly, the "How To" guides will show you where all these parts are located on your car. I found the information valuable and it has clarified a lot of the mystery surrounding the "newer" cars. check it out and see what I mean.

beyondloadedSE
09-09-2005, 08:02 PM
you may want to check the crank position sensor as well.

MonteCarloChic
09-09-2005, 08:15 PM
lol i wish you guys were here to look at the stupid thing for me... i still havent gotten the fuel hoses back on the pump. so cant do nothing else yet. cant get them back on because the hoses are to hard and tight.

richie41
09-10-2005, 12:37 PM
lol i wish you guys were here to look at the stupid thing for me... i still havent gotten the fuel hoses back on the pump. so cant do nothing else yet. cant get them back on because the hoses are to hard and tight.

Have you looked at the Autozone web page How To guides for Inspecting, Testing, and installation and removal of the fuel pump? You'll find a lot of helpful info there. I looked up the Fuel Pump Lines on the Autozone page and seems like there are some unique connectors for the fuel lines. Here's the webpage I found. On the right side of the page you can select other areas of the fuel system to find more help. http://www.autozone.com/servlet/UiBroker?ForwardPage=/az/cds/en_us/0900823d/80/1b/ce/27/0900823d801bce27.jsp

MonteCarloChic
09-12-2005, 09:50 AM
Well that would work but i had to cut the part that was connected to it , i figured it wouldnt hurt much cause there was plently of hose. one problem is the rest of the hose doesnt fit and its to hard/not gonna fit. =/ i dunno what to do other than try to find something to make it fit. i dont wanna tape it or anything lol anyways ill keep ya posted!

hallboy
09-12-2005, 07:45 PM
a little vaseline or grease with Q-tip on the inside of the hose opening will help with the hard to fit hose.
sit in the back while someone turns the key on. You will easily hear the pump kick on. If you don't then you have no power or the pump is broke city. Do you have your owners manuel? It has a list and placement of the fuses and relays.

MonteCarloChic
09-13-2005, 01:10 AM
a little vaseline or grease with Q-tip on the inside of the hose opening will help with the hard to fit hose.
sit in the back while someone turns the key on. You will easily hear the pump kick on. If you don't then you have no power or the pump is broke city. Do you have your owners manuel? It has a list and placement of the fuses and relays.
nope bought the car used but i had the pump tested they said it worked great

hallboy
09-13-2005, 06:06 AM
Let me know if you need a list of fuses and place ments. I may even be able to scan the pages for you.

hallboy
09-13-2005, 06:12 AM
If you have the 4cyl there is a fuel pump fuse in the power distribution box under the hood. It is next to your battery. The fuse is number 15 and it is a 10 amp standard fuse. Then you have R8 (brown) it is a special fuse you can most likely get from the parts store. These are really easy to get to and you can get replacements pretty easy. I hope this helps.

MonteCarloChic
09-16-2005, 09:00 PM
Well guys i really have to get that thing fixed now my Monte just finally gave out on me , tranny and a loud knocking comming from the engine. well i took the carburator cover off the contour poured gas in it and it cranked but it wont stay cranked because its not getting gas. so my grandpa is gonna try to see if its got a clog somewhere. anyways hopefully that fixes it =)

beyondloadedSE
09-16-2005, 10:31 PM
Well guys i really have to get that thing fixed now my Monte just finally gave out on me , tranny and a loud knocking comming from the engine. well i took the carburator cover off the contour poured gas in it and it cranked but it wont stay cranked because its not getting gas. so my grandpa is gonna try to see if its got a clog somewhere. anyways hopefully that fixes it =)

i think the carburator might be the problem since contours dont come with them. :grinno:

MonteCarloChic
09-17-2005, 01:15 PM
Needing the diagrams of where the relays are to the fuel pump. the problem is the fuel pump is fine just no power getting to it

MonteCarloChic
09-20-2005, 05:13 PM
i bought a new ECM (brain computer) becuase the relays were ok but the fuel pump wasnt getting fire to it. Midas a year ago said it need a fuel injection cleaning and i neglected it and i think its got some clogged injectors. it wasnts to try to crank but not getting enough fuel.

MonteCarloChic
10-04-2005, 10:38 AM
All that was wrong was the computer wasnt screwed in . but i dont know whats making the radiatior fan not come on. i think its the temperature sensor but the guy who does all the work doesnt want to think its that now.

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