Need A DIFFERENT Car
Myrrdex
06-01-2005, 03:00 PM
I am 21 years old and I own a (2002) Honda Accord 2Dr Ex 4 cyl.
I have always been an agressive driver and have been to a few autocrosses with my buddies in town. I always get nevous to drive my car hard around the track because the last time I came back from the track, within a week I had to have rotor resurfacing, brake pad replacement, suspension adjustment, and alignment readjusted. I know that this is somewhat normal that cars off the street will need to be fixed back up after being driven hard at the track and that's fine. However what I don't like is that I am buying replacement parts for a luxury/economy/family vehicle that weighs over 3000 lbs or right at it, and only has 150 hp and not nearly as much torque. Also, a problem I have with my car is that I can't really work on it because it is so unbelieveably computerized. I don't mind this because I can still change my own oil, brakes, random parts, but I would like to be able to do more without a bunch of computer systems monitoring every little cough and sputter my car makes. Don't get me wrong I love my car, and appreciate Honda engineering to the fullest extent, and I know this car would be perfect for plenty of people my age, but I need something more in tune with my driving style/habbits.
That said. I have a job where I make a resonable amount of money so insurance is not really an issue. It looks like I can get around 10-11 thousand for my car in the condition it is in. I don't want to spend too much more than how much my car is worth for the replacement car. I understand I will not get a car as new and full of amenities as the one I currently own and I am willing to accept that. So the cars I am considering are:
97-98 Nissan 240sx (+RWD, +Decently easy to work on, +weight/hp, +$$ )
95-99 BMW 3 Series Coupe (+RWD, ++engine, +GermanEngineering +Work on, -$$)
Scion tC (-FWD, +cool car, -Work on)
Acura Integra (-FWD, +engine, +$$, +weight/hp)
Acura RSX (not type s too much $$$$) *
97-00 VW GTI (-FWD, +GermanEngineering :) ++engine, +Work on +$$)
I feel like the Nissan BMW and GTI make the most sense but I would like everyone elses opinion though. Convince me to get certain cars if you think i would really like them. If you have other cars that might go with this group let me know about them and why they qualify. Thanks.
I have always been an agressive driver and have been to a few autocrosses with my buddies in town. I always get nevous to drive my car hard around the track because the last time I came back from the track, within a week I had to have rotor resurfacing, brake pad replacement, suspension adjustment, and alignment readjusted. I know that this is somewhat normal that cars off the street will need to be fixed back up after being driven hard at the track and that's fine. However what I don't like is that I am buying replacement parts for a luxury/economy/family vehicle that weighs over 3000 lbs or right at it, and only has 150 hp and not nearly as much torque. Also, a problem I have with my car is that I can't really work on it because it is so unbelieveably computerized. I don't mind this because I can still change my own oil, brakes, random parts, but I would like to be able to do more without a bunch of computer systems monitoring every little cough and sputter my car makes. Don't get me wrong I love my car, and appreciate Honda engineering to the fullest extent, and I know this car would be perfect for plenty of people my age, but I need something more in tune with my driving style/habbits.
That said. I have a job where I make a resonable amount of money so insurance is not really an issue. It looks like I can get around 10-11 thousand for my car in the condition it is in. I don't want to spend too much more than how much my car is worth for the replacement car. I understand I will not get a car as new and full of amenities as the one I currently own and I am willing to accept that. So the cars I am considering are:
97-98 Nissan 240sx (+RWD, +Decently easy to work on, +weight/hp, +$$ )
95-99 BMW 3 Series Coupe (+RWD, ++engine, +GermanEngineering +Work on, -$$)
Scion tC (-FWD, +cool car, -Work on)
Acura Integra (-FWD, +engine, +$$, +weight/hp)
Acura RSX (not type s too much $$$$) *
97-00 VW GTI (-FWD, +GermanEngineering :) ++engine, +Work on +$$)
I feel like the Nissan BMW and GTI make the most sense but I would like everyone elses opinion though. Convince me to get certain cars if you think i would really like them. If you have other cars that might go with this group let me know about them and why they qualify. Thanks.
kman10587
06-01-2005, 05:00 PM
BMWs are extremely fun to drive and easy to work on. Parts and insurance are pretty expensive, though. If you can afford it, go for the 3 Series.
For something a bit cheaper, the 240SX works well. It doesn't have the same kind of driver communication that the 3 Series does, but with all the money you'll save from buying one, you'll be able to make it faster.
I'm not a big fan of newer Volkswagens. I don't trust their reliability, for one, but more importantly, they don't have the sporty handling and agility that VWs of the past did. This is mostly due to rising curb weights and softer rides, as VW is now more of an affordable luxury brand than an economy-sport brand. Sure, the straight-line potential is great with the 1.8T motor, and you can make it handle well with some aftermarket work, but it doesn't make sense when compared with the 3 Series and the 240SX.
I'd forget about the tC. As an economy car, it's trendy, affordable, and reliable, with tons of luxury features for the money. But as a sports coupe/hatchback, it suffers for the same reasons as the GTI: too much weight, too little suspension.
I don't see much sense in buying the RSX over the older Integra. For the price of a base RSX, you could get a good condition late model Integra GS-R, which would be more fun to drive, and cheaper and easier to work on. With either one, though, there's the problem of unwanted attention - from cops, ricers, and thieves, mostly.
For something a bit cheaper, the 240SX works well. It doesn't have the same kind of driver communication that the 3 Series does, but with all the money you'll save from buying one, you'll be able to make it faster.
I'm not a big fan of newer Volkswagens. I don't trust their reliability, for one, but more importantly, they don't have the sporty handling and agility that VWs of the past did. This is mostly due to rising curb weights and softer rides, as VW is now more of an affordable luxury brand than an economy-sport brand. Sure, the straight-line potential is great with the 1.8T motor, and you can make it handle well with some aftermarket work, but it doesn't make sense when compared with the 3 Series and the 240SX.
I'd forget about the tC. As an economy car, it's trendy, affordable, and reliable, with tons of luxury features for the money. But as a sports coupe/hatchback, it suffers for the same reasons as the GTI: too much weight, too little suspension.
I don't see much sense in buying the RSX over the older Integra. For the price of a base RSX, you could get a good condition late model Integra GS-R, which would be more fun to drive, and cheaper and easier to work on. With either one, though, there's the problem of unwanted attention - from cops, ricers, and thieves, mostly.
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