HOW TO: Converting your P10 G to 5 speed from auto Part 1

First off I'm gonna tell you what you need to buy in the way of parts. Then I'm gonna tell you what to remove from your car in the order that you should. Then I am going to continue with the rest tomorrow cuz I'm pooped :)

First when you call around for the parts:

Ask for complete tranny
complete clutch (except the clutch disk buy it new)
complete shifter
the brake and clutch pedals
no need for axles they are all the same regardless of VLSD
You can use the parts from NX2000, 200sx se-r if you can't find any G20 parts.

First pop open your hood remove your battery and the plate underneath it, remove your airbox and all hoses until throttle body, disconnect all electrical connections and hoses from your tranny. Next you'll lift the car up to remove your axles, careful the bolt on the ball joint (at the end of the control arm) will most likely be seized on so your gonna need a torch to heat them up and use patience until they come off (this is what will slow you down the most) from underneath remove plastic covers, the bar with the tranny mount on it that passes underneath the tranny and then its off tho the torque converter. You'll find it behind 2 screws on the side of the tranny facing the passenger side of your car. With a wrench turn the engine by one of the belt pully things (forgot the name of it in english) this will expose the 5 bolts on the converter that you will need to remove in order to disconnect the tranny from the car.

From here use caution that tranny is damn heavy. Place your tranny jack underneath the tranny NOW.You will now start to remove all bolts and odds and ends that hold on the tranny. Lower your jack slowly with a helper once you've done that and put the tranny somewhere out of the way.

The rest tomorrow :)

BTW: I want to dispell a myth about converting. All the parts used are exactly the same and no fitting is needed. Your starter, bell housing, console and even your axles will be fine with your new manual tranny. This job is long but very simple and straight forward. If you know what your doing then this should be easy. I removed all parts needed off the car in 2.5 hours.

Til tomorrow :)

sounds good, and interesting. waiting for the rest and hopefully some photos to visualize with!! i'm sure your write up will be on g20.net once complete... :)



one question i do have... can you use an auto ecu on a manual??

This has been fun to do!

1. No pics cuz my hands get quite dirty and I don't want to handle my digicam with grimey hands

2. The ECU is tricky I got lucky last time (according to infiniti) It's supposed to be just fine but there is a chance that your ECU won't take it. Being that the tranny is electronic and supposedly has a separate ECU I am assuming that this is why I got away with it the first time.

Like I said I will post the rest tomorrow. As for a write up of the whole operation I will most likely do that burt after posting the details as I have so for I really don't think I'll need to.

Sidenote: I found a few advantages to using an NX2000 tranny.

VLSD (Viscuous Limited slip differential)
Better gear ratios
The tranny is prolly 150lbs lighter than the auto one.

SO I grip more, accelerate more and weigh less. I'm off to a good start :)

I have a P10 auto and was wondering how much it would cost overall without installation for all the parts? i will get it done from a body shop, but just wanted to know how much all the parts that i would need costs.

Originally posted by AznVirus
I have a P10 auto and was wondering how much it would cost overall without installation for all the parts? i will get it done from a body shop, but just wanted to know how much all the parts that i would need costs.

It should cost no more than 1500$ (in canadian funds anyway) I recommend if you can find a tranny out of an NX2000 grab it. The performance is nice.

r u still around? im all ready to read the next part but you seem to have maybe had some problems?? well, those i understand, but im starting to wonder maybe i missed something and youve posted it somewhere else...

Heheh no been busy lately and lazy...My new job has me building like 150 PC's a day so my hands are tired :( No problems the conversion was done and I wanna post it soon...I wonder if everyone is still interested ?

Originally posted by b-b00gie
sounds good, and interesting. waiting for the rest and hopefully some photos to visualize with!! i'm sure your write up will be on g20.net once complete... :)
Once I get my new appt worked out and start actually looking for a new job I'll be going into the forum cellar and digging up some of the older HOWTO's and putting them in G20.net.

Right now I'm working on some site building tools that will help me update and maintain the site in the future. So don't expect an update on G20.net very soon. :( Sorry guys.

lol..still interested??? i was hanging on to your every word...now ive been checking a few times a day...just so you know youve still got the interest. a lot of people have been talking about it on different mailing lists too...

Ok I'm ready to post the rest but is anyone able to gimme there Email addy and willing to size down the pics I took?

Lemme know. Once thats done I will post the rest.

I hope my info will result in MORE converted g's!! :)

i can make em smaller, if thats what you mean. i sent you a PM w/ my email.

zy...

you can email me the pics if you still need this done...

brian@unxplodedbomb.com

i did make em smaller, but i dont know whathappened after that...were they small enough? ( i think i about halved 'em)

Yes they were fine and thanks (sleepers 96)... I will very soon continue to explain the conversion I've just been working way too much

I promise to get this done sometime this week :)

looking forward to it. and hey! don't let work get in the way of you and your car damnit. ask your boss just who he thinks he is and tell him youll be in when you and your car have had the appropriate time alone and if he doenst understand then who needs 'em neways! :flipa: okay, for real this time, we'll wait till youre damn good and ready..but just in case...where do you work? jk.cya.

I work for RBA Inc. I usually stage computers or repair Video poker machines... Generally I'm always up to my neck in hardware and I've been asked to do a lot of overtime lately ... can't complain a lot of other companies are laying everyone off in the tech world round here.

did this project die? i know a bunch of people who are thinking the post died.

No but the car did :)

I'm gonna finish this for y'all I've just been busy..will do it tonight :)

Ok Please hurry, I am trying to decide if this is something I can do or not !!

Poppy do you have a proggie that can make pics smaller? If so I would like to Email them to you so I can finish the write up today.

Originally posted by zykotik
No but the car did :)


...thats not a good sign now is it? :p

Originally posted by zykotik
Poppy do you have a proggie that can make pics smaller? If so I would like to Email them to you so I can finish the write up today.


Yes I have a few programs that can do it .....
OH God How big are they ...lol ?

Email them to me and I will shrink and email back to you .....

Shawn

I haven't forgotten this...My pics aren't anywhere to be found sooo...seeing as how I recently cracked my tranny in 2 I will be able to take more pics..


I will definitely finish this once and for all so you guys can have some fun.

I think that it is funny that a how-to on a tranny swap is in the maintenance section. Kind of like saying that having a auto is a problem that must be repaired.

Originally posted by G20t Driver
I think that it is funny that a how-to on a tranny swap is in the maintenance section. Kind of like saying that having a auto is a problem that must be repaired.

For some people it is definitely a problem...can't wait to finish up my car...could'nt find a tranny anywhere in Quebec or Ontario damit.

what else did you have to buy other than the tranny? i know you need a clutch master cylinder, what else?

If you read through the beginning of the thread you'll see what you need ...no no master cylneeded its not a hydraulic clutch...Try to get parts off an NX2000 the tranny is geared better.

actually this is not for my old P10. im dropping in the DET into my 200SX and it is an Auto. im going to use the tranny for the DET that comes with it and turn it into an auto and block of the rear axle to make it FWD. so im going to get a JWT pressure plate and clutch. they said i needed clutch master cylinder. anything else i should need?