*Review* Apexi WS Exhaust
CivSiGuy
03-28-2002, 10:15 PM
Alright, what everyone has been waiting for. Apexi WS.. the real story.
I bought my Apexi WS from a groupbuycenter.com buy for $375 shipped. That was the main reason I bought it over a Thermal R&D catback, along with its promised look and sound.
Just some basic information about the exhaust: The piping is 2.25" diameter compared to 1.75" stock. The tip on the end is 4inches in diameter, but really doesn't look it at all. "Apexi" is etched into both sides of the tip. The kit comes in 3 pieces as opposed to the stock 2 piece exhaust. The muffler and tip are the only pieces of the exhaust are stainless, the rest is heat treated with an excellent coating of something. But it's not gonna rust, I can tell.
Install was about as straightforward as you're gonna get. Unbolt and rebolt. The rubber hangers can be a pain at times, but once you get them off the stock exhaust (hangers will probably be rusted), putting them back on is a snap. A weird thing during install: the exhaust gives 2 hangers right after the catalytic converter while the car only supplies 1 mount. That really beats me. To get around that, we just tied the other hanger to the subframe with some heavy wire. Rigged it? nah. :D
Ok.. time for the fun part. Actually driving the car w/ it. Upon starting it up, don't be alarmed of the massive amount of white smoke pouring out of the tailpipe, its just the interior of the exhaust burning itself out. The sound at idle is awesome; deep, yet quiet. It gives a hint that it means business, but doesnt scream it like an N1 persay. Pulling out of the driveway with windows down and a temperature of about 35 degrees, it sounds sweet from take off up until about 4500-5000rpm. At that point, it tapers away and lets the intake have its turn to make some music. If you want an exhaust that's gonna turn heads when driving through town at low rpms (2500-3500), this is what you want. Power gain? oh yeah. The car feels like its been loosened up so much more now. The engine just keeps revving faster with every new mod and this one kept the trend going. I'm confident with i/h/e that i can run extremely low 15's or better, the car just feels that good.
Overall, hell of a part to buy. Cheap, sleeper looks, awesome sound. 9 out of 10. :D
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(yes my car is filthy)
I bought my Apexi WS from a groupbuycenter.com buy for $375 shipped. That was the main reason I bought it over a Thermal R&D catback, along with its promised look and sound.
Just some basic information about the exhaust: The piping is 2.25" diameter compared to 1.75" stock. The tip on the end is 4inches in diameter, but really doesn't look it at all. "Apexi" is etched into both sides of the tip. The kit comes in 3 pieces as opposed to the stock 2 piece exhaust. The muffler and tip are the only pieces of the exhaust are stainless, the rest is heat treated with an excellent coating of something. But it's not gonna rust, I can tell.
Install was about as straightforward as you're gonna get. Unbolt and rebolt. The rubber hangers can be a pain at times, but once you get them off the stock exhaust (hangers will probably be rusted), putting them back on is a snap. A weird thing during install: the exhaust gives 2 hangers right after the catalytic converter while the car only supplies 1 mount. That really beats me. To get around that, we just tied the other hanger to the subframe with some heavy wire. Rigged it? nah. :D
Ok.. time for the fun part. Actually driving the car w/ it. Upon starting it up, don't be alarmed of the massive amount of white smoke pouring out of the tailpipe, its just the interior of the exhaust burning itself out. The sound at idle is awesome; deep, yet quiet. It gives a hint that it means business, but doesnt scream it like an N1 persay. Pulling out of the driveway with windows down and a temperature of about 35 degrees, it sounds sweet from take off up until about 4500-5000rpm. At that point, it tapers away and lets the intake have its turn to make some music. If you want an exhaust that's gonna turn heads when driving through town at low rpms (2500-3500), this is what you want. Power gain? oh yeah. The car feels like its been loosened up so much more now. The engine just keeps revving faster with every new mod and this one kept the trend going. I'm confident with i/h/e that i can run extremely low 15's or better, the car just feels that good.
Overall, hell of a part to buy. Cheap, sleeper looks, awesome sound. 9 out of 10. :D
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(yes my car is filthy)
1995HondaCivic
03-28-2002, 10:20 PM
nice, good review :)
1993HondaCivic
03-28-2002, 10:21 PM
good to see someone else with the ws
good review
good review
nittanys1
03-28-2002, 10:27 PM
DAMNIT I WANT ONE NOW!!!!!!!!! you had your car repainted, right? NICE CAR!!! WANT ONE SO SO BAD.....o yeah good review:D
CivSiGuy
03-28-2002, 10:37 PM
the paint is stock.. sunlight makes it super bright in pictures
delsolguy
03-29-2002, 12:06 AM
Fantastic. Looks really good. Also glad to see that you didn't go with an exhaust that...well, one that "makes vTeCh scream when it kicks in y0!"
j.fuggi
03-29-2002, 12:10 AM
very nice review. informative.
car's looking good too... bah, who washes their cars these days anyway?? :wave:
car's looking good too... bah, who washes their cars these days anyway?? :wave:
CivSiGuy
03-29-2002, 12:13 AM
Originally posted by delsolguy
Fantastic. Looks really good. Also glad to see that you didn't go with an exhaust that...well, one that "makes vTeCh scream when it kicks in y0!"
what can i say.. I'm keeping the sleeper style alive
Fuggi.. I'll wash it up and take updated pics of the car so you can wish you had a 6th gen. :D
Fantastic. Looks really good. Also glad to see that you didn't go with an exhaust that...well, one that "makes vTeCh scream when it kicks in y0!"
what can i say.. I'm keeping the sleeper style alive
Fuggi.. I'll wash it up and take updated pics of the car so you can wish you had a 6th gen. :D
j.fuggi
03-29-2002, 12:16 AM
Originally posted by CivSiGuy
what can i say.. I'm keeping the sleeper style alive
Fuggi.. I'll wash it up and take updated pics of the car so you can wish you had a 6th gen. :D
yea sleeper... ;)
i like 6th gens too.
and dude.. i bought a meguiars cleaning package for only like $30 and you get:
1 Gold Class Wash & Conditioner
1 Gold Class Liquid Wax
1 Endurance High Gloss Tire Gel
1 Hot Rims All Wheel Cleaner
1 Quik Detailer
2 Ultimate Wipe
1 Cotton Wash Pad
sorry.. back to topic now.. hehe
what can i say.. I'm keeping the sleeper style alive
Fuggi.. I'll wash it up and take updated pics of the car so you can wish you had a 6th gen. :D
yea sleeper... ;)
i like 6th gens too.
and dude.. i bought a meguiars cleaning package for only like $30 and you get:
1 Gold Class Wash & Conditioner
1 Gold Class Liquid Wax
1 Endurance High Gloss Tire Gel
1 Hot Rims All Wheel Cleaner
1 Quik Detailer
2 Ultimate Wipe
1 Cotton Wash Pad
sorry.. back to topic now.. hehe
Darkwing
03-29-2002, 12:20 AM
I so hate you. I was just sold on the CD changer and speakers (total of about $350) and then I go and read this. I hate you I hate you I hate you. I won't be able to go to sleep tonight cuz now I cant decide. That sounds like the PERFECT exhaust for me. Looks so tight too. And cheap as phuck.
*starts crying*
Will anyone lend me $400 so I can have both? I'll be your best friiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeennnd!!!!!!
*starts crying*
Will anyone lend me $400 so I can have both? I'll be your best friiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeennnd!!!!!!
CivSiGuy
03-29-2002, 12:51 AM
Originally posted by Darkwing
I hate you I hate you I hate you. I won't be able to go to sleep tonight cuz now I cant decide.
:D I love it when people get like that.
I hate you I hate you I hate you. I won't be able to go to sleep tonight cuz now I cant decide.
:D I love it when people get like that.
naughty_WOOD
03-29-2002, 01:05 AM
Dude i am happy you got the world sport exhaust cheap but.....why not go for something less restrictive, if you have got plans to turbocharge your car (hopefully you do or you dream about it all night) you need something that focuses on flow instead of muffling the sound, so you wont have to spend $500 additional dollars on a less restrictive exhaust when you go forced induction.
FORGIVE ME I AM BEING A JERK AND A KNOW IT ALL, COME TO THINK OF IT WHY AM I WRITING THIS......whatever i am idiot:mad: :(
FORGIVE ME I AM BEING A JERK AND A KNOW IT ALL, COME TO THINK OF IT WHY AM I WRITING THIS......whatever i am idiot:mad: :(
SilverY2KCivic
03-29-2002, 02:07 AM
Very nice review, just the kind of thing I'd like to see more of around here as well.
I was just within the past couple months leaning more towards the WS exhaust for my '00 DX coupe. I have the intake which (for the APC shorty I have at least) already makes my car sound like it has a deep exhaust at lower RPMs, but I need/want something that'll make my car noticed without having to be WOT. I also like the WS since it was designed with the Civic in mind as well, so I hear it works a lot better with our cars. But I also want it for power of course, and at least on N/A cars, I hear the WS delivers quite nicely in that department. I want an exhaust that'll get noticed, but not in an obtrusive, or annoying way like the Dunk can be. That one is quite buzzy in the higher RPM range. Not to mention the WS is well suited for someone like me that's on a tight budget, but still wants a complete quality system. I guess for my DX, since my cat is built into the stock exhaust manifold, I'd have to get an extension pipe cut to the length of the EX cat, since the exhaust wouldn't fit all the way back to my manifold. Is this hard or esy to do, and how much would a flanged about 2 foot extension like this cost?
I was just within the past couple months leaning more towards the WS exhaust for my '00 DX coupe. I have the intake which (for the APC shorty I have at least) already makes my car sound like it has a deep exhaust at lower RPMs, but I need/want something that'll make my car noticed without having to be WOT. I also like the WS since it was designed with the Civic in mind as well, so I hear it works a lot better with our cars. But I also want it for power of course, and at least on N/A cars, I hear the WS delivers quite nicely in that department. I want an exhaust that'll get noticed, but not in an obtrusive, or annoying way like the Dunk can be. That one is quite buzzy in the higher RPM range. Not to mention the WS is well suited for someone like me that's on a tight budget, but still wants a complete quality system. I guess for my DX, since my cat is built into the stock exhaust manifold, I'd have to get an extension pipe cut to the length of the EX cat, since the exhaust wouldn't fit all the way back to my manifold. Is this hard or esy to do, and how much would a flanged about 2 foot extension like this cost?
Beyond Imagination
03-29-2002, 04:36 AM
Originally posted by naughty_WOOD
Dude i am happy you got the world sport exhaust cheap but.....why not go for something less restrictive, if you have got plans to turbocharge your car (hopefully you do or you dream about it all night) you need something that focuses on flow instead of muffling the sound, so you wont have to spend $500 additional dollars on a less restrictive exhaust when you go forced induction.
Not everyone decides to go turbo ... and not everyone wants a loud exhaust ... especially a daily driver ... :)
Dude i am happy you got the world sport exhaust cheap but.....why not go for something less restrictive, if you have got plans to turbocharge your car (hopefully you do or you dream about it all night) you need something that focuses on flow instead of muffling the sound, so you wont have to spend $500 additional dollars on a less restrictive exhaust when you go forced induction.
Not everyone decides to go turbo ... and not everyone wants a loud exhaust ... especially a daily driver ... :)
liquid8
03-29-2002, 01:55 PM
nice choice man. i do hate those annoying ass loud mufflers that you see around sometimes. you know those damn cars that have some loud ass exhaust and are only barely pressing the pedal. once again good choice
ric
03-29-2002, 06:03 PM
Originally posted by liquid8
nice choice man. i do hate those annoying ass loud mufflers that you see around sometimes. you know those damn cars that have some loud ass exhaust and are only barely pressing the pedal. once again good choice
yeah like me, n1 equipped!! and for everyones info i bought it for exactly that reason....to piss off people who dont like loud exhausts. no beef though, just trying to be an asshole like usual :)
by the way jon when i pick my helms up on monday we will test out ricks butt dyno right?
nice choice man. i do hate those annoying ass loud mufflers that you see around sometimes. you know those damn cars that have some loud ass exhaust and are only barely pressing the pedal. once again good choice
yeah like me, n1 equipped!! and for everyones info i bought it for exactly that reason....to piss off people who dont like loud exhausts. no beef though, just trying to be an asshole like usual :)
by the way jon when i pick my helms up on monday we will test out ricks butt dyno right?
Beyond Imagination
03-29-2002, 06:25 PM
I like the sound of the N1 ... it's got such a clean sound to it and it's not as annoyingly loud as most people say it is ...
CivSiGuy
03-29-2002, 09:52 PM
Originally posted by naughty_WOOD
Dude i am happy you got the world sport exhaust cheap but.....why not go for something less restrictive, if you have got plans to turbocharge your car (hopefully you do or you dream about it all night) you need something that focuses on flow instead of muffling the sound,
Forced induction is not in the plans at all. I'm gonna go all motor w/ this car. I don't dream about turbo's either.. I dream of 14's :D
Dude i am happy you got the world sport exhaust cheap but.....why not go for something less restrictive, if you have got plans to turbocharge your car (hopefully you do or you dream about it all night) you need something that focuses on flow instead of muffling the sound,
Forced induction is not in the plans at all. I'm gonna go all motor w/ this car. I don't dream about turbo's either.. I dream of 14's :D
CivSiGuy
03-29-2002, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by i like naked girls
by the way jon when i pick my helms up on monday we will test out ricks butt dyno right?
yessir.. ever seen an Si beat a Prelude? well it's comin' :)
by the way jon when i pick my helms up on monday we will test out ricks butt dyno right?
yessir.. ever seen an Si beat a Prelude? well it's comin' :)
CivicEx95
03-30-2002, 04:31 AM
Damn. I was going to buy a Thermal one off groupbuycenter, but they want $489 shipped. I think I'll go for this one if it's only $375 shipped, plus I think it looks better. Save me $100, cause I'm going to have some other expenses pretty soon. :D :D :D
VTEC_boi
03-30-2002, 03:12 PM
Looks good Jon.
Think you could get it as a sound file and send it to me?
I like loud exhausts. Sorry if I'm a ricer but the Type-One N1 exhaust manufactured by A&J Racing is simply amazing. Fully stainless piping...titanium or stainless muffler (N1 style - the material is a choice). Loud as crap but just about as free-flowing as it gets!
Later Jon
--- I'M ON SPRING BREAK! YES!!
Think you could get it as a sound file and send it to me?
I like loud exhausts. Sorry if I'm a ricer but the Type-One N1 exhaust manufactured by A&J Racing is simply amazing. Fully stainless piping...titanium or stainless muffler (N1 style - the material is a choice). Loud as crap but just about as free-flowing as it gets!
Later Jon
--- I'M ON SPRING BREAK! YES!!
FBP Si 2000
03-30-2002, 07:14 PM
How low does the exhaust can sit? Really low or is it normal like any other exhaust...I've seen the WS on other cars and I do not like how the can sit...or how big it is. Maybe you can get some shots of how low the can sits? TIA
CivSiGuy
03-30-2002, 08:35 PM
Originally posted by FBP Si 2000
How low does the exhaust can sit? Really low or is it normal like any other exhaust...I've seen the WS on other cars and I do not like how the can sit...or how big it is. Maybe you can get some shots of how low the can sits? TIA
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http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/743381IM000248.jpg
(I brightened the 2nd one so you could see it.)
How low does the exhaust can sit? Really low or is it normal like any other exhaust...I've seen the WS on other cars and I do not like how the can sit...or how big it is. Maybe you can get some shots of how low the can sits? TIA
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/370542IM000245.jpg
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/743381IM000248.jpg
(I brightened the 2nd one so you could see it.)
CivSiGuy
03-30-2002, 08:36 PM
Originally posted by VTEC_boi
Looks good Jon.
Think you could get it as a sound file and send it to me?
sound file? pfft.. how about a video? :D
Looks good Jon.
Think you could get it as a sound file and send it to me?
sound file? pfft.. how about a video? :D
Darkwing
03-30-2002, 11:05 PM
Originally posted by CivSiGuy
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http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/743381IM000248.jpg
(I brightened the 2nd one so you could see it.)
looks like it sets just fine to me!! Up really high, prolly higher than any other exhaust I've seen. cool!
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http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/743381IM000248.jpg
(I brightened the 2nd one so you could see it.)
looks like it sets just fine to me!! Up really high, prolly higher than any other exhaust I've seen. cool!
CivSiGuy
03-30-2002, 11:23 PM
Originally posted by Darkwing
looks like it sets just fine to me!! Up really high, prolly higher than any other exhaust I've seen. cool!
exactly.. at a quick glance, it looks stock. muhaha :devil:
looks like it sets just fine to me!! Up really high, prolly higher than any other exhaust I've seen. cool!
exactly.. at a quick glance, it looks stock. muhaha :devil:
CivicEx95
03-31-2002, 11:38 PM
What is the diameter of the piping? 2.25 or 2.5"?
CivSiGuy
04-01-2002, 07:51 PM
Originally posted by CivicEx95
What is the diameter of the piping? 2.25 or 2.5"?
2.25"
What is the diameter of the piping? 2.25 or 2.5"?
2.25"
piscorpio
04-01-2002, 10:35 PM
Nice choice man, it may not be a surprise that I like that exhaust alot too. To be honest, ever since I bought APEXi coilovers, I can say I would be happy to get nothing but APEXi products here on out. (*ahem* ball bearing turbo *ahem*). APEXi rules.
petzride
04-02-2002, 12:18 AM
piscorpio
04-02-2002, 03:52 PM
Tanabe, what!!?? Get outta here you loser, we only like APEXi here!! :D
Just kidding man, that actually looks almost the same, does it sound the same and cost about as much too? Is it stainless steel throughout? (APEXi is only stainless on the muffler)
Just kidding man, that actually looks almost the same, does it sound the same and cost about as much too? Is it stainless steel throughout? (APEXi is only stainless on the muffler)
petzride
04-02-2002, 10:28 PM
Originally posted by piscorpio
Tanabe, what!!?? Get outta here you loser, we only like APEXi here!! :D
Just kidding man, that actually looks almost the same, does it sound the same and cost about as much too? Is it stainless steel throughout? (APEXi is only stainless on the muffler)
Like I said, I just want to remind u guys~~lol:D
The price of it is alittle bit higher than ws. I bought it $440 shipped. As for the sound, they should be about the same level. And no, hyper is not stainless throughout(only the muffler). Unlike ws, hyper's tip is all the way 4", which I think looks better~:D
Tanabe, what!!?? Get outta here you loser, we only like APEXi here!! :D
Just kidding man, that actually looks almost the same, does it sound the same and cost about as much too? Is it stainless steel throughout? (APEXi is only stainless on the muffler)
Like I said, I just want to remind u guys~~lol:D
The price of it is alittle bit higher than ws. I bought it $440 shipped. As for the sound, they should be about the same level. And no, hyper is not stainless throughout(only the muffler). Unlike ws, hyper's tip is all the way 4", which I think looks better~:D
VTEC_boi
04-03-2002, 02:05 PM
Video? pfft...slow modem Jon! LoL
Foegit dat fooes....you'z gotz ta get dem universalz performancez mufflaz. Do's be da tightestz pluz u save dat monay fo da Type-Rs badge.
;)
Foegit dat fooes....you'z gotz ta get dem universalz performancez mufflaz. Do's be da tightestz pluz u save dat monay fo da Type-Rs badge.
;)
CivSiGuy
04-04-2002, 08:50 AM
Originally posted by VTEC_boi
Foegit dat fooes....you'z gotz ta get dem universalz performancez mufflaz. Do's be da tightestz pluz u save dat monay fo da Type-Rs badge.
shut up :finger:
Foegit dat fooes....you'z gotz ta get dem universalz performancez mufflaz. Do's be da tightestz pluz u save dat monay fo da Type-Rs badge.
shut up :finger:
JayFidizzy
04-04-2002, 09:31 AM
looks like to me i am going to purchase the apexi ws....i've been looking around at exhaust systems and haven't found what I wanted, but that one looks way worth it.
dome
04-04-2002, 10:05 AM
I can't wait I can't wait I can't wait I can't wait I can't wait.
Mine's in the mail.
i can't wait I can't wait I can't wait I can't wait i can't wait.
Mine's in the mail.
i can't wait I can't wait I can't wait I can't wait i can't wait.
VTEC_boi
04-04-2002, 11:25 AM
I wish you'd freakin' come down so I could hear it in person. :finger4:
:D
:D
piscorpio
04-04-2002, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by VTEC_boi
Video? pfft...slow modem Jon! LoL
Foegit dat fooes....you'z gotz ta get dem universalz performancez mufflaz. Do's be da tightestz pluz u save dat monay fo da Type-Rs badge.
;)
You ass! Do you know how much I had to rack my brain to understand what you wrote there! :D Don't ask me why I felt I needed to read it either.
Video? pfft...slow modem Jon! LoL
Foegit dat fooes....you'z gotz ta get dem universalz performancez mufflaz. Do's be da tightestz pluz u save dat monay fo da Type-Rs badge.
;)
You ass! Do you know how much I had to rack my brain to understand what you wrote there! :D Don't ask me why I felt I needed to read it either.
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