M3(e46) vs. mitsubishi EVOVII

It's a bet with a friend.....
Why evoVII and why M3????




PS:I bet on M3:finger:

Evo VII are just ugly....I like the Evo VI the best...you really cant compare them in the looks department

http://www.tvp.com.pl/tg/moto/Mitsubishi/Zdjecia/Evolut-4.jpg

vs

http://carpoint.msn.com/merismus%5CGallery%5Cc438960a.jpg

BMW M3...despite not having the AWD or turbo capabilities...does excellently...0-60 in 4.8 seconds...333HP for us in the USA and just a remarkable machine all around.

evo is even lighter and can corner better. if its not a high way battle where top end is required. the evo will beat the m3. but not by much. if its highway battle that requires speeds over 120mph. the m3 will murder the evo

evo 7 too one-dimensional.
M3 is a finer car

Evo is not a highway battle type car...a Supra is...or a Viper...but not a Evo...it's more tuned towards quick acceleration and not so tuned for high end horsepower pulls.

Evo's place is best in adverse conditions like in rallying or in bad weather. If it is dry conditions...the M3 can certainly hang w/the Evo...if not beat it due to it's truly remarkable handling and steering.

M3 still....

It depends on what you really want: drive, or be driven?
EVO 7 takes little skill to drive fast... That's not driver satisfaction, that's cheap thrills.

Depends if u wanna be driving a BMW or a Mitsu too, personally i'd go with the mitsu cuz i like power and handling and i don't have grandkids yet :finger: maybe when i'm elligible for social security and can afford a beamer i'd go with that but as long as i still like the feeling of being in a cockpit instead of a moving couch with leather seats i'd go with the EVO :)

Originally posted by InitialJRift
Depends if u wanna be driving a BMW or a Mitsu too, personally i'd go with the mitsu cuz i like power and handling and i don't have grandkids yet :finger: maybe when i'm elligible for social security and can afford a beamer i'd go with that but as long as i still like the feeling of being in a cockpit instead of a moving couch with leather seats i'd go with the EVO :)

Power...what the 333HP isnt enough for you compared to the Mitsu's 276HP?

Handling...like the M3 cannot handle...HA! You bet it can.

Grankids...if you dont have them...then you would opt for the 2dr M3 vs the more family oriented 4dr saloon style.

:flipa:

yea if i was older and wanted more power from the factory and wasn't really into tuning at all, just want to go fast and not know how it's done i'd go with the beamer, but i'm into tuning so i'd have to get the lancer, what u can u buy an exhaust for a beamer, making a big 340hp then :) i'd be more satisfying going with the lancer and tuning it to hmm double that 333 hp :) plus the looks of the lancer are better too, maybe not the VII but the VI and V, if i was seen in a beamer ppl would think it's ur rents car or else assume you're a richboy who wants to go fast in a moving sofa, EVO's look alot nicer than a beamer, not just some everyday bmw, sure BMW's can handle but who would wanna handle one :) 276hp is the limit on JP spec vehicles or i'm sure it'd be making more, and a 2dr M3? come on now, if u want a sports car buy a sports car not obvious sedan that is trying to be a full on sports car, i see M3's and 5's everyday, there's nothing special about them..........ohh yea :finger: BMW

in the nicest possible way, youre talkin sh*t :D

I know i'm talkin "sh!t" i can voice my opinion though and mine is that beamers suck, just my opinion, u have the right to yours :) and yes i'm a shit talker lol cherio mate

lol... as long as you know, i guess its ok.... well said tho

cheerio

Originally posted by InitialJRift
I know i'm talkin "sh!t" i can voice my opinion though and mine is that beamers suck, just my opinion, u have the right to yours :) and yes i'm a shit talker lol cherio mate

Ok if you want to say that BMW's suck because of apearance it's your right because everyone has different tastes. If you say beamers suck from a technological point of view then you are just ignorant.

Damn... the new M3 stock will murder a stock evo easily... Everybody know that modifing turbo cars is another story then modifinig NA cars... IF you want the straight line then M3 wins hands down , and at higher speeds there's no contest... Corners... M3 kills it in the dry , but with it's AWD mitsu wins in slicky conditions... So draw here... Track... M3 will win on most tracks... Comfort... M3 Prestige... M3 Reliablity ... M3 , Price... EVO ... Overall if you can afford it then 4 sure M3 is a better car....

If you say beamers suck from a technological point of view then you are just ignorant.
well said

Originally posted by Tom_S8
Damn... the new M3 stock will murder a stock evo easily... Everybody know that modifing turbo cars is another story then modifinig NA cars... IF you want the straight line then M3 wins hands down , and at higher speeds there's no contest... Corners... M3 kills it in the dry , but with it's AWD mitsu wins in slicky conditions... So draw here... Track... M3 will win on most tracks... Comfort... M3 Prestige... M3 Reliablity ... M3 , Price... EVO ... Overall if you can afford it then 4 sure M3 is a better car....


I am just wondering where you are getting your facts because every magazine I have seen has had faster times for the EVO than the M3. Therefore, I don't see how the M3 could win "hands down." It is "possible" that an M3 could win in a straight line but it would at least be close. Anyways, each car is awesome.

if people have the numbers, would they mind posting?

also, make sure that you post fairly on numbers... if they are from different magazines, please note that...

lets see these different numbers

=======EVO VII=============E46 M3

0-60:--------5.0------------------------5.1
0-100:------13.0-----------------------12.3
Vmax:------140------------------------155 (limited)
BHP/ton:----200-----------------------219

(As tested by EVO magazine)

these are data from a source i trust, though i have seen sub 5 second 0-60 times for both these cars... surprised that EVO VII "only" goes up to 140...... looks like the M3 wins it.

anyway, those are the figures. Discuss.

I think I would rather own the M3, but when it comes down to a track battle stock for stock I think the Evo would win. Now I will say I don't know much about the M3. The Evo has ben honed over several years of rally combat and I think it is a pretty well refined car. Of course, they are in two different classes so it's kind of hard to compair them... Now this is pure speculation, but I would think the BMW engine could put out higher power figures then the Evo when modded, any one agree?


Ok, it's late... I'm rambling... I'll shut up :silly2:

I believe the evo has more room to grow. Because for a turbo car all you pretty much have to do is raise the boost (and all the other stuff that goes with it so it doesn't blow up), but for NA you can only do so much.
But an M3 on forced induction, well....that different then.

i was just about to point that out...

you have a bit of a limitless sky with the m3, b/c you can get 4-500 hp out of it n/a, then you get to move to a turbo/supercharger...

then you get ridiculous... i dont believe that you can put out as much hp from an evo... i've seen what would be considered mild m3s with power that wild evos have...

not to knock the evo..

i guess this has to stay to stock cars...