Ferrari vs Mercedes

Ferrari F430 vs the Mercedes Mclaren Slr

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General ~
Make Mercedes-Benz--------Ferrari
Model 2004 SLR McLaren-||||||-2005 F430
RWD-||||||-RWD w/E-Diff, CST
Base Price455 000 USD-||||||-$170 00 USD
Curb Weight 1768kg / 3898 lbs-||||||-1450 kg / 3197 lbs
Configuration 90 Degree AMG V8 w/Dry Sump-||||||-90 Degree V8
Valvetrain SOHC, 3 Valves per Cyl-||||||-DOHC, 4 Valves per Cyl
Displacement 5439 cc / 331.9 cu in-||||||-4308 cc / 262.9 cu in
Power 466.8 kw / 626 bhp @ 6500 rpm-||||||-360.4 kw / 483.3 bhp @ 8500 rpm
Torque 780 nm / 575.3 ft lbs @ 3250-5000 rpm-||||||-465 nm / 343.0 ft lbs @ 5250 rpm
Compression Ratio 8.8:1-||||||-11.3:1
Bhp / Liter 115.09 bhp per litre-||||||-112.19 bhp per litre
Max Engine Speed Not Available-8500

Body
Body / Frame Carbon Fibre & Compsite Body & Chassis Aluminum Monocoque ~ both

Drivetrain
Transmission 5-Speed Auto w/Speedshift System-||||||-Manual or F1 Paddle Shift

Top Speed 334 kph / 207.5 mph-||||||-315.4 kph / 196.0 mph
0 - 60 mph 3.7 seconds-||||||-3.9 seconds

well, i think the SLR is more comparable to the enzo than it is to the F430. both in price and power. i choose the F430 in this comparo though, one of my favorite cars period. the SLR is a great and all, but you'd be hard pressed to find a car i would pick over the F430. :D

I don't care how fast the SLR is, 3800 lbs curb weight on a supercar is ridiculous. Gimme the F430 any day.

The SLR really is in a class of its own. Benz calls it something like a "super tourer" and it really doesn't compare to the Carrera GT and the Enzo type cars, its just too heavy. Really the SLR is closest to the likes of the Aston Martin Vanquish S and the Ferrari 575m.

Personally, between those two cars I'd rather the Ferrari, its just a sexier car. Even though the Benz might be the quicker car, its hard for me to choose the Benz name over Ferrari. I also wouldn't at all be suprised if the Ferrari was much more fun to drive, even with the price difference.

Ferrari F430...they improved upon an already excellent chassis and motor that the 355, and 360 had...this one is damn amazing!

F430 anyday

The F430 is far better looking and more focused than the SLR, and sounds almost as good. It gets my vote.

but which one could you drive across country with a full company of luggage, in comfort?

just what is the comparison here?
are we just looking at numbers or what they do or what we prefer?

I'm guessing it's what we prefer...

SLR, its more rare, more comfortable, and is easy to drive fast in.

SLR, its more rare, more comfortable, and is easy to drive fast in.

I havent seen either so they are both rare to me...

I havent seen either so they are both rare to me...

What i mean is that, since the F430 is a replacement for 360, then is going to be mass produce, while the SLR isn't is hand build in small amount. (i know is not a limited run but from the speed of production we won't see too much of it on the road when compared to F430)

mass produced for an exotic. It will still be a very rare sight unless you live in Monaco or other such place. So i would not worry about exclusivity with the F430.


The reason however most people here choose the F430 is because its a true drivers car, and a proper sport car while the SLR is just a super GT.

I also find the thread title quite apropiate since the SLR is more mercedes than McLaren.

The 430 has my vote hands down for one reason alone, it has a manual. What is it with Merc and automatics? Would it kill them to have a manual as an option? Also the 430 looks better, is more of a drivers car, cheaper, and it is a Ferrari.

cos they don't know how to make a good gearbox but are too proud to go and outsource one?
you have to admit, their autobox is better than most others on the market......

cos they don't know how to make a good gearbox but are too proud to go and outsource one?
you have to admit, their autobox is better than most others on the market......

True, it is good, for an auto.

but then i should say that the only mercedes autobox i've had experience with is the one in the old slk230.
it wasn't brilliant but it didn't do the annoying shift up/down at unwanted moments that my mum's old fiesta gearbox does.

Mercs make the best slushboxes as far as im concerned.

but which one could you drive across country with a full company of luggage, in comfort?

just what is the comparison here?
are we just looking at numbers or what they do or what we prefer?

its all about what you prefer.

all the crap they did to the SLR is just redundant. you make the ridiculously overpriced because of the body material to make it light. then you stick a thousand lbs of junk into it. stupid. even it was very light, i would pick the 430. sexy as hell and fast. my dad has a 360 and i love it. if i want an AT, ill get the F1 so no points for merc in that aspect. i would love to have either though.

and who buys a car like those to drive cross country? thats what your other car is for.