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06' Viper Coupe v. C6 Z06


DinanM3_S2
01-24-2005, 10:56 PM
I've been itchin to make this comparison for a little while now, so heres my question. Is the Viper SRT10 still worth it? The new Corvette Z06 produces the same HP, 50 less torque, weighs 300lbs less, and will cost much less. Why buy a SRT10, when you could buy a Z06, for less, and get better times?


C6 Z06-
Cost: $62,500 (C&D)- $75,000*
Engine: pushrod 16-valve V-8, aluminum block and heads, port fuel injection
Displacement: 428 cu in, 7008cc
Power: 500 bhp @ 6200 rpm
Torque: 475 lb-ft @ 4800 rpm
Weight: 3150lbs
Zero to 60 mph: 3.8 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 7.7 sec
Standing 1/4-mile: 11.7 sec @ 127 mph


Viper SRT10 Coupe-
Cost: $86,000
Engine: pushrod 20-valve V-10, aluminum block and heads, port fuel injection
Displacement: 505 cu in, 8285cc
Power: 500 bhp @ 5600 rpm
Torque: 525 lb-ft @ 4200 rpm
Weight: 3450lbs
C/D-estimated performance:
Zero to 60 mph: 3.9 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 8.5 sec
Standing 1/4-mile: 12.1 sec @ 121 mph

All stats are C&D

*There is some arguement over the price, supposedly some "GM insider" hinted at a price as high as around $75,000, and C&D estimated $62,500. I tend to side closer to C&D since when you look at the difference in performance between the C5 Coupe and C6 Coupe, for about the same price, I'd say adding $10,000 to the Z06 sounds about right. Either way, the Z06 will be cheaper then the SRT10 Coupe.

My vote goes to the C6 Z06

kman10587
01-24-2005, 11:01 PM
I'm gonna say the Z06 is a much better buy, and it's what I'd buy given that kind of money, but the SRT-10 still has some appealing qualities: much more exclusivity, much more modern (though not necessarily better) underpinnings, and a heftier helping of torque. The Z06 feels like a race car with a muscle car engine, whereas the Viper SRT-10 feels like a muscle car with a race car suspension.

uranium235powered
01-24-2005, 11:47 PM
What do you want? Speed? With that kind of money, I'd get a Honda Civic Hatch and mod the shit out of it. I'll be breaking into the 8 or 9's all day for the 1/4 mile.

But back to topic, I think that I'll go with the Vette.

NISSANSPDR
01-25-2005, 12:27 AM
Pics of both

Viper Coupe

http://www.seriouswheels.com/2006/2006-Dodge-Viper-SRT10-Coupe-SA-Top-Studio-1280x960.htm

ZO6

http://www.seriouswheels.com/2006/2006-Chevrolet-Corvette-Z06-FA-Studio-1280x960.htm

NISSANSPDR
01-25-2005, 12:30 AM
With that kind of money, I'd get a Honda Civic Hatch and mod the shit out of it. I'll be breaking into the 8 or 9's all day for the 1/4 mile.


All..day...what you think 62k last forever? What about tires? Maintenance? Track fees? Pit crew? Trailering the car places?

Anyways...my point is...you cant run 8/9's all day w/62k

v10_viper
01-25-2005, 05:39 PM
The Z06 will probably take it in acceleration even though the Viper's can run 11.77 as stated in Motor Trend, haven't seen much faster than that though. The coupe version of the SRT-10 isn't any lighter which is bullshit and power is the same. It's chassis is stiffer though so that'll aid to handling, like the Viper needs any better handling. So I wouldn't say that specs for the coupe would be far off of the convertible. Anyways I've given up fighting for the Viper, I'll vote for it, but the Vette would probably be the better buy. I do think that prices for the Z06 will be in the mid 70's though because of all the different things it has on it compared to a normal C5, other than frame and interior I dont think much is the same.

BP2K2Max
01-25-2005, 05:39 PM
What do you want? Speed? With that kind of money, I'd get a Honda Civic Hatch and mod the shit out of it. I'll be breaking into the 8 or 9's all day for the 1/4 mile.


No way. On top of what nissanspdr said, you're still driving a civic, which you won't be able to resell for anywhere near the 62K you put into it, plus it'll sound like ass, probably won't be street legal, won't have a factory warranty, probably won't have any amenities like power steering, A/C, or even a stereo. no thanks.

ricesucks
01-25-2005, 05:52 PM
I would take the ZO6. You can use them as daily drivers. They prolly get about 2 times if not more the fuel ecomney. I think it will be faster aswell. I think the vette looks a lot better, and it is a ton cheaper. Vette for me

crayzayjay
01-25-2005, 06:11 PM
If anyone mentions the word Civic again in this thread it's locked. Stay on topic people.

Jimster
01-25-2005, 06:27 PM
Civic.





:thefinger



If we were comparing the previous generations of the two cars, then I'd choose the Viper. However in this instance, a Z06 looks tastier.

del
01-25-2005, 09:37 PM
vette for me. much more value for the money you pay. even if they were the same price, i'd still opt for the vette. but i agree with jimster, the old viper had more appeal to me than the current one.

emokid15
01-25-2005, 11:12 PM
I picked the Dodge Viper.

NISSANSPDR
01-26-2005, 12:28 AM
Well it's my CIVIC right to choose...so I choose the ZO6...the Viper Coupe really let me down...sure honestly...50hp more = 86k? WTF...I'd rather get a 450HP GTS and pay when they were new!!! 75k...this is utter BS...Dodge better get their sh*t str8

CanucksRT
01-26-2005, 12:49 AM
The Corvette is the better buy, but right now, the C6 Z06 and Viper Coupe aren't available yet, so perhaps it could change.

Anyways, if the 'Vette goes for $62,000, I'd take it over the Viper, such a difference in cost, Dodge has a lot of homework to do.

But if the 'Vette goes for $75,000, I'm going with the Viper. The Viper has more exclusivity, I would love to drive/own a V10 over a V8 (which don't get me wrong, I love V8's, I have one), and I believe the Viper is more of a headturner to regular people. Wouldn't you think owning a Viper could pick up more chicks (who know little to nothing about cars), than a 'Vette?

NISSANSPDR
01-26-2005, 02:25 AM
But if the 'Vette goes for $75,000, I'm going with the Viper. The Viper has more exclusivity, I would love to drive/own a V10 over a V8 (which don't get me wrong, I love V8's, I have one), and I believe the Viper is more of a headturner to regular people. Wouldn't you think owning a Viper could pick up more chicks (who know little to nothing about cars), than a 'Vette?

I agree w/some of what you say...the Viper is more rare...and the new Vette is not a huge departure from the C5 and neither is the new Viper Coupe a massive overhaul since the previous generation. But as far as the pricing/exclusivity...ppl who can spend 75k can probably also spend 86k...just my :2cents:

Fast Shot
01-26-2005, 05:09 AM
I Prefer the Viper because it's has better looking , better sound , excellent acceleration and too rare ..

Kurtdg19
01-26-2005, 10:17 PM
Well as most of you would think, I choose the Z06 :biggrin: . I still respect the Viper in how and what i brings to the playing field. Its a very unique car. Even if the Viper (hypothetically speaking) turns out to be significantly superior in every aspect I'd still take the Z06. Its just my cup of tea and nothing more.

Anyways, I'm satisfied (from what I've heard and read) with the improvements made on the upcomming Z06. An all aluminum chassis, carbon fiber front fenders, smaller steering wheel, 428cubs in small block!, etc., are all rewarding features to any sportscar. As it stands against the SRT-10 convertible, I think it will be a quicker track runner. Hopfully its claimed 6.3 lb/hp will be good enough to outst the Viper Coupe :evillol:

Muscletang
01-28-2005, 10:15 PM
428cubs in small block!

big block
Sorry Kurt but I can't help myself.

Anyway I'd take the ZO6 anyday over the Viper. I've never been a Viper fan nor have I liked the Viper but have always been a Corvette lover. To me the choice is simple on this one.

Kurtdg19
01-29-2005, 01:22 AM
big block
Sorry Kurt but I can't help myself.

Anyway I'd take the ZO6 anyday over the Viper. I've never been a Viper fan nor have I liked the Viper but have always been a Corvette lover. To me the choice is simple on this one.

According to what I've read, they've managed all 428cubs in a smallblock. The iron cylinder liners had to be pressed due to the lack of metal between cylinders to achieve its displacement. Skirts on the liners were required since the pistons actually come out of the block. Talk about making full efficiency out of every single mm of space. Wild isn't it.

Neutrino
01-29-2005, 03:48 AM
Kurdg is quite correct that is still a small block. Amazing what they did with it.

SuperHighOutput
01-31-2005, 10:34 PM
Z06, it's a much better value, my guess on price is 65k, even if it's 75k it's still a performance bargain. BTW it's a small block, it's the same gen IV small block as the C6, it's just been bored/stroked out to 427cu in.

NerveAgent
02-01-2005, 11:01 PM
bah i choose ZO6!

5 Point 7
02-02-2005, 04:31 PM
500 hp C6 Vette Hardtop < 600 hp Viper Hardtop...whenever it comes out. Read about rumors of it in mags though...they are not always reliable though...

Also I miss the much better looking hardtop Viper!

Rakshas
02-06-2005, 12:57 AM
Viper, It just looks sexier.

Dreamspawn
02-06-2005, 01:53 PM
The viper has been know to have oversteer off the coner where as the vette suffer from alittle from tail breaking at 150+mph. They tested the porsche 911 against the normal vette in motor trend. I havn't seen a actual comparsion between the z06 and a viper though. I wonder if nebody wrote ne maybe we could get a comparsion.

Kurtdg19
02-06-2005, 03:12 PM
The viper has been know to have oversteer off the coner where as the vette suffer from alittle from tail breaking at 150+mph. They tested the porsche 911 against the normal vette in motor trend. I havn't seen a actual comparsion between the z06 and a viper though. I wonder if nebody wrote ne maybe we could get a comparsion.

Well according to this post...


........ Then in Road and Track magazine there is a comparison test between sports cars and the Z was included and this is how it went (Buttonwillow)-

1. 66.32 Vette
2. 66.60 Viper
3. 66.71 Carrera
4. 67.27 Boxster
5. 68.65 Elise
6. 68.91 SLK350
7. 69.88 S2000
8. 70.71 Z4
9. 70.86 350Z


It seems that the C6 model (not Z06), ran slightly faster than the SRT-10. Now lets add 100hp and drop over 100lbs accompanied with an even more aggressive suspension setup, brakes, etc. and who knows how bad the SRT-10 will look then. :lol:

The way things are unfolding at the moment, Dodge better have one long sleeve with a lot of tricks up it if they want the Coupe model to compete with the upcomming Z06.
:2cents:

Dreamspawn
02-06-2005, 03:36 PM
I stand corrected goto love the bowtie. The coupe will improve the aero slightly but shouldn't make that much of a differnce. So i agree they better have alot of tricks up there sleeve.

PWRDbyUNCLEbens
02-07-2005, 10:40 PM
I just read the road and track magazine article, and the issue was that they wouldn't downshift the viper through the esses, and i quote "THe viper would have won if not for a blemish coming out of the esses"
anyways not to sound like a viper nazi the vette came ridiculously close to the viper's track time with a big hp disadvantage.

I don't think there is a question that the new z06 will trounce the coupe unless dodge pulls something out of their ass. My choice however goes for the coupe as it looks amazing, but from a performance standpoint the z06 ownz. As for price I'd expect the final prices will probably be very simliar after dealer markup.

99onI95
02-09-2005, 11:53 PM
I'm all about driving a car that noone else has. In my college parking lot of 7000 there is only one t/A.
Normally I would choose the viper because that fits my personality of different. But this week I got to actually get an upclose and personal with a Zo6 owner and the car.
All I have to say is that is one smooth machine. He said its about 3 times what a normal vette is. And he gave me a display of performance on the way out the parking lot.
Unfortunately I haven't been able to talk to any viper owners so my opinion is biased.
gotta go ZO6

DreamSpawn I had faith in you buddy I thought u were going to get it right and go GM with this car comparison. I hate you let me down. :(

Dreamspawn
02-10-2005, 12:14 AM
I did go with the vette on this one

MclarenF1
02-10-2005, 12:36 AM
Believe it or not, but I've actually had the opportunity to drive both a Viper and a Corvette Z06. (This happened last year when I was working as a salesman at a Dodge/Chevrolet dealer). Granted, the Viper was not a coupe (but it was the new body style), and the Vette was last year's 405 horsepower C5 model. I just got to cruise the Viper for about 20 minutes, but I drove the Vette numerous times, HARD. Before driving them, I would have said I loved the Viper more. Drop dead gorgeous body, and unlike the Vette, it didn't have a less powerful little brother to confuse it with. Drive one, though, and you realize the seat is way narrow (I promise I'm not that fat) and the car as a whole is like trying to ride a skateboard with metal wheels down a flight of stairs. A wild experience, but even after driving it slow for half an hour, I was ready to get out. The Vette was just awesome. Even with "just" 405 hp, it had no problem laying you back in the seat. You could wind the motor to 7,000 rpm, and it sounded like the soundtrack from a Wiston Cup car. It still rode really well, and was a hell of a highway car. I wouldn't hesitate to drive one everyday. If you find a deal on a used one, BUY IT. Anyway, if the new Z06 retains even half the drivability of last year's model, I'll throw my vote toward the Vette, even if it ends up being just as expensive as the Viper.

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