BMW M3 Vs Porsche 996
crayzayjay
03-04-2002, 03:34 PM
Regardless of cost, which would you choose? This may sound a little stupid as the Porsche is a much more exclusive badge just to begin with, but it's been implied that the 911 is beginning to lose it in terms of driver thrills and the M3 is taking over. With regard to this, which would you choose?
cheers,
jay
cheers,
jay
TatII
03-04-2002, 05:07 PM
the porsche would blow it away in performance, and it still has the luxuries of a bimmer. well not exactly up to that level. but its a very very well trimed super car.
crayzayjay
03-04-2002, 05:54 PM
I'm not so sure that the Porsche would "blow it away". It may be a little faster but the stats (bar top speed which is limited to 155 on the Bimmer) are fairly close for both cars. So you would choose the Porsche although it seems to deliver less thrill to the driver?
cheers,
jay
cheers,
jay
NISSANSPDR
03-05-2002, 01:19 AM
Some stats first:
Porsche 911 Turbo - $111K (base price)
Rear Engine/AWD
3.6 Liter TT Flat 6
415HP/415lbs of TQ
6 spd manual
3395 lbs
0-60 mph 3.6 seconds
Quarter mile 11.9 seconds
Lateral G's 0.96
13.0 inch brakes (all around)
BMW M3 (E46) - $45K (base price)
Front Engine/Rear Wheel Drive
3.2 Liter Inline 6
333HP/246lbs of TQ
6 spd manual
3458 lbs
0-60 mph 4.7 seconds
Quarter mile 13.6
Lateral G's 0.91
12.8 inch brakes (front)
12.9 inch brakes (rear)
True that the 911T has become a less involved car, but it's truly the most driver friendly supercar out there for the money most likely. The way it behaves, adjusts & corrects is remarkable. It may not challenge a person as much as say a M3...but it is by no means a slouch when it comes to handling.
The M3 has always had superb handling and awesome steering. This new M3 is by no means less of an M3 from the last that enchanted us so very much. But it does not hang w/the 911T in terms of overall speed...so it must rely on it's handling to keep pace.
My verdict: I'd rather say...I am going to go get my Porsche (I choose the Porsche...I like to speed on the highway past other lowly cars)
Porsche 911 Turbo - $111K (base price)
Rear Engine/AWD
3.6 Liter TT Flat 6
415HP/415lbs of TQ
6 spd manual
3395 lbs
0-60 mph 3.6 seconds
Quarter mile 11.9 seconds
Lateral G's 0.96
13.0 inch brakes (all around)
BMW M3 (E46) - $45K (base price)
Front Engine/Rear Wheel Drive
3.2 Liter Inline 6
333HP/246lbs of TQ
6 spd manual
3458 lbs
0-60 mph 4.7 seconds
Quarter mile 13.6
Lateral G's 0.91
12.8 inch brakes (front)
12.9 inch brakes (rear)
True that the 911T has become a less involved car, but it's truly the most driver friendly supercar out there for the money most likely. The way it behaves, adjusts & corrects is remarkable. It may not challenge a person as much as say a M3...but it is by no means a slouch when it comes to handling.
The M3 has always had superb handling and awesome steering. This new M3 is by no means less of an M3 from the last that enchanted us so very much. But it does not hang w/the 911T in terms of overall speed...so it must rely on it's handling to keep pace.
My verdict: I'd rather say...I am going to go get my Porsche (I choose the Porsche...I like to speed on the highway past other lowly cars)
crayzayjay
03-05-2002, 06:00 AM
I think when you bring the 911 Turbo into it it's a little unfair. I was thinking more of standard Carrera, or Carrera 4 Vs E46 M3. Would you still take the Porsche?
cheers,
jay
cheers,
jay
Tom_S8
03-05-2002, 09:13 AM
Originally posted by crayzayjay
I think when you bring the 911 Turbo into it it's a little unfair. I was thinking more of standard Carrera, or Carrera 4 Vs E46 M3. Would you still take the Porsche?
cheers,
jay
If it wasn't for the money i'll take the porsche...
I think when you bring the 911 Turbo into it it's a little unfair. I was thinking more of standard Carrera, or Carrera 4 Vs E46 M3. Would you still take the Porsche?
cheers,
jay
If it wasn't for the money i'll take the porsche...
NISSANSPDR
03-09-2002, 02:14 AM
Oh didnt know we were talking NA Porsche's...well...
Numbers first...just for kicks
http://fantasycars.com/derek/cars/images/porsche/2002carreracoupe_2.jpg
Porsche 911 Carrera 4
Rear Engine/AWD
3.6 Liter Flat 6
320HP
6 spd manual
3263 lbs
0-60 in 5.0 sec
Quarter mile in 13.5 sec
Lateral G's 0.95
Well now that it is M3 vs Carrera 4...hmm...I guess I would have to say M3...just a very nice overall package...and w/the money that I saved...well you know the rest.
http://www.eskimo.com/~dalus/bmw/images/e46/e46_m3_sept_99.jpg
Numbers first...just for kicks
http://fantasycars.com/derek/cars/images/porsche/2002carreracoupe_2.jpg
Porsche 911 Carrera 4
Rear Engine/AWD
3.6 Liter Flat 6
320HP
6 spd manual
3263 lbs
0-60 in 5.0 sec
Quarter mile in 13.5 sec
Lateral G's 0.95
Well now that it is M3 vs Carrera 4...hmm...I guess I would have to say M3...just a very nice overall package...and w/the money that I saved...well you know the rest.
http://www.eskimo.com/~dalus/bmw/images/e46/e46_m3_sept_99.jpg
Vertigo
03-21-2002, 09:15 AM
The Porsche name give the owner a little more cache than the Bimmer but I just love the M3. So M3 for me.
Shaitan
05-30-2002, 01:16 PM
the m3
What ya Smoking?!?
06-19-2002, 07:22 AM
996 all the way!!:bandit: :smoka: :smoker2: :ylsuper
Ando_Rules
06-20-2002, 07:07 AM
i like both but id say the 996 cus it looks better and beats the M3 in a little of performence
Fliquer
06-20-2002, 12:06 PM
NISSANSPDR, I think those acceleration and 1/4mile times you posted are a bit exaggerated. 3.6 seconds for a porsche turbo? Thats as fast as a mclaren.
crayzayjay
06-20-2002, 08:13 PM
4 seconds flat isnt it?
Porsche
06-21-2002, 12:55 AM
4.2 with the manual, but who's counting :D
ArtemisEntreriR34
07-07-2002, 01:02 PM
M3 all the way, it has a better Price/Performance ratio. The M3 is also damn sexy.
ArtemisEntreriR34
07-07-2002, 01:11 PM
How about we Compare the 911T to this Bimmer :
http://www.supercars.net/cars/2001@$BMW%20Hamann@$E46%20M3%20Laguna%20Seca%202.h tml
http://www.supercars.net/cars/2001@$BMW%20Hamann@$E46%20M3%20Laguna%20Seca%202.h tml
|Banchi1O5|
07-07-2002, 03:18 PM
if you threw an m5 into the mix
the prices would be much closer in range
the prices would be much closer in range
Fliquer
07-07-2002, 08:48 PM
Somebody please look at the outrageous amount of CAMBER on the front wheels!!! That thing may look tough, but with the wheels tilted inward like that, it will have a hard time driving in a straight line.
crayzayjay
07-12-2002, 09:05 AM
I'd take a 996 over that "thing" any day of the week, and twice ...
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