C6 Corvette Vs. E46 M3

ah....which of of these bad-boys would win in 0-60/Quarter mile and handling

Stats

2004 BMW M3 Coupe)6-speed,not that SMG shit)
333HP 3.2L I-6
0-60 4.8s
1/4-13.38 s @ 105.73 mph



2004 Chevrolet Corvette 6-speed
350HP 5.7L V8
0-60 4.8s
1/4-13.40 s @ 108.3 mph

ah....which of of these bad-boys would win in 0-60/Quarter mile and handling

Stats

2004 BMW M3 Coupe)6-speed,not that SMG shit)
333HP 3.2L I-6
0-60 4.8s
1/4-13.38 s @ 105.73 mph



2004 Chevrolet Corvette 6-speed
350HP 5.7L V8
0-60 4.8s
1/4-13.40 s @ 108.3 mph


So are you comparing a C6 or a C5 vette?

04 is c5, i'd say its a drivers race

There are so many things wrong with this comparo...

In your title you say C6 Corvette v. E46 M3, however in the thread you use the 2004 C5 Corvette, which is 50 hp weaker.

Your 0-60 and 1/4 mile stats for the C5 are wrong, and should be faster.

The M3 and the Corvette are in completely different classes. Nomally you campare cars that carry the same amount of people. The BMW is 1/2 luxury car, while the Vette is all sports car.

Finally, that "SMG shit" you spoke of is the fastest transmission on a street legal car, except the new 7-Speed SMG on the E60 M5. You can say that you only want to compare manuals, but don't denigrate the most advanced transmission most people could ever drive.

Now the actual comparison... I'd say the C5 and C6 Vette should beat out any M3 in a drag because it is
a) more aerodynamic
b) stronger (both hp and torque)
c) lighter (by about 200 lbs)

I'd say that the more turns there are on a track the better the BMW would do. Back when I bought my car I drove both the C5 and the M3, and I felt that the BMW had better handling, but I guess thats opinionated.

A C6 would outrun the M3. Though I think I would have the M3 in my garage.













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Exactly, I think in the end you are comparing cars aimed different types of people. By choosing an M3 over a C6, you are defintely going to lose a small bit of hp & torque and the M3'll be heavier, but I think it's worth taking a small hit in performance to have the superior technology/engineering and high quality interior as found in the M3 (Remembering that it IS the interior we spend the most time in).

Your 0-60 and 1/4 mile stats for the C5 are wrong, and should be faster.

car and driver ran the c5 vette at 13.1 0-60 in 4.5

R&T ran it at 13.4 0-60 in 4.8


thats were he got his 13.4 from

I was probably thinking of the C&D times... Either way, I'd rather have an M3.

tough choice. the M3 is easily more practical. and it's an M3 for cryin out loud, one of my favorite cars not including cars with astrological pricetags. the C6 has been earning a crapload of praise from every critic i've come across. i've only ran into a handful of negatives on it, which really arne't that bad to begin with. i can only go with what i read coz i've never driven the C6, yet.

hard to compare these cars coz i'd take one over the other for different reasons. but if i had to include just one of these in my fantasy garage, i think i'd go with the C6 vette for higher exclusivity, its inherent automotive history, big bang for not much buck. not to take away anything from the E46 M3 though.

crap i did mean a C5 my bad..............And tell me please how the SMG equiped M3 is the fastest transmission when it goes 0-60 in 6.0s??..The regular 6-speed M3 obtains 0-60 in 4.8s? soo how the hell is it considered faster?...
And to sum it up both cars are in the relative price range and both are coupes aimed towards all-out performance

Anyone know any lap times for either cars? Nurburg? As much as I love the M3, it always gets pants at the autox's by the C5's. That said, I've driven both and the C5 is just so freaking boring by comparison, even if it is faster. I'd venture to say a ford focus is more entertaining to drive than a vette.

i kind of agree with burntrice, not really sure why the SMG is so much slower than a regular manual. Especially cause smg comes with launch control, which should theoretically enable the fastest 0-60 possible. i've read reviews that state the smg is faster around a track, which i believe, i just dont understand the slower 0-60.

also, i think 6 seconds is a little exagerrated. i think the correct 0-60 for the smg m3 is more in the 5.2 to 5.3 range.

ford focus funner to drive than a c5 vette?

no, not even slightly

1st of all, those 0-60 times of 6.0 seconds w/ SMG is way off, I do remember seeing that in a magazine, but they were simply wrong. Theres just no way. The E36 M3 Automatic got better 0-60 times then that. Although I have seen differences of 0.1-0.3 seconds for SMG v. Manual.

Even with launch control, the SMG is a bit slower at low speeds then the 6-speed. It is much easier for a less experienced driver to get better acceleration times with SMG then a Manual, however a very good driver can beat the launch control of the SMG. Heres a very good article from European Car that compares the two transmissions.

http://www.europeancarweb.com/tech/0212ec_bmwtech/index.html

Drag Racing with a very experienced driver is the only place where a manual really is a better transmission. For road races, track lapping days or autocross, as well as daily driving, the SMG is the better transmission.

But why??? SMG performs shifts way faster than a human can, and launch control on smg shifts at precisely the right RPM for fastest acceleration. I just don't understand how a driver, even an experienced one, could beat such a system.

only thing i can guess is that smg is heavier than the stick??

its seems that the vette would win in the 1/4, but im not sure about handling. But really, unless you got the dough, youre only gunna have one car. better make it an M3

The Vette is a better car, BMW has poor build quality, and they have mass produced the car so much that the engines aren't what they once were. The Vette actually sends a chill up your spine when you step in the gas where the BMW is all noise and fluff. You may own one and think you have the best car, but I have owned both and hate to break it to you that you were ripped off on the mom mobile. Think about it, the car is now marketed for women. Until BMW steps up and grabs their sack back and builds a car that performs and looks better than what the new M3 is going to look like, you all won't be talking about the underdog much longer.

There are a lot of things I don't like about the M3, but the dead last thing on my list would be poor build quality. And I'd hardly consider it a women's car either. It may seem very docile and gentrified on the surface, mostly due to the high curb weight and gaggle of electronic aids, but underneath all of that, it's a ferocious and soulful performance machine. That said, I'd take the Corvette. Luxury and driving experience are nice and all, but at the end of the day, the Corvette is still faster and cheaper.

Also, please don't revive old threads (generally, anything older than what's on page one).

kinjox> please do not revive old threads. Read this:

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