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LHD conversions in CA. (R33 & R34)


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Circuit Theory
12-04-2004, 01:15 AM
Anyone looking to do a LHD conversion feel free to send me an e-mail, cost varies depending on how you want your car set up. If you are looking for a mirror image of the rhd then the cost will be higher but a basic swap which is considered the 1st stage and consists of converting steering rack and column, exhst piping, firewall work, and many other small things. The 1st stage costs 13,000 and will be left with an aluminium square dash. the 2nd stage consists of making a lhd custom dash and wrapping it in leather, interior work and A/C work are the focus of the second stage and the cost is higher due to custom dash pieces prices and lots of wiring. 2nd stage costs 16,000. This conversion is for the R33 and R34. We are located in Southern California.
please e-mail for more info
circuittheory@hotmail.com

HighOctaneNOSUser
12-04-2004, 01:24 AM
Okay, but why didn't you just post this in the other thread?

Circuit Theory
12-04-2004, 01:32 AM
i did post it in the other thread however that thread was started by someone else and it was 2 pages into the discussion already so I figured why not post a fresh thread. In fact I will go and erase my other post so this is no longer a repost.

HighOctaneNOSUser
12-04-2004, 09:11 AM
Alright, that's a better plan of action. So, yeah, just don't post stuff in a thread, and then post the same thing in your own thread. Get's on people's nerves. And these are the last people you want to upset. Especially with all the stupidity flying around now.....

Circuit Theory
12-04-2004, 01:05 PM
Thanks for the tip. So now back to the topic. Stage 1 and stage 2 both take approximately 6-8 weeks. Complete conversion should take approximately 3-3.5 months.

my3rdskyline
12-04-2004, 07:14 PM
Not really interested in this because I'm more used to driving RHD anyway..... But I would like to see some pictures if you have them. I have yet to find a shot of an engine bay of a LHD skyline. We've all seen that cardomain skyline GT-R site that has all LHD skylines on it.... but there's no real high res pictures in there that show how it's done.

Circuit Theory
12-05-2004, 02:47 AM
I do have pics available through aim or e-mail. circuittheory@hotmail.com
thanks

Moppie
12-05-2004, 03:35 AM
They do them in the middle east, usualy useing the dash from another Nissan model, (pulsar etc) which is cut and tweaked to fit.

However from the very little info Iv found its very very hard to do properly and they can look quite messy.

Circuit Theory
12-05-2004, 03:50 AM
Yeah i have seen some pretty shady conversions, Usually they are not done in order to look perfect but only in order to function properly so they can be legalized in whichever country they are made for. Our head lhd mechanic is responsible for the mechanical and fabrications aspects of conversion i have pics of however he was working for other companies at that time. They are very clean and mirror images of the rhd drive dashes. i know the price is steep just like all the other prices are for skyline stuff in the states. however I can brake the prices down and show that we are only making about 20.00 hr or less for labor which is far below the market standard here in Southern California.

RazorGTR
12-05-2004, 10:10 AM
I'm actually wondering why you would even want such information actually. The main reason is due to no skylines manufactered from 1996 onwards can be legalized at this time anyways. It seem like a HUGE waste of time and resources from the word go.

Skyline69
12-05-2004, 06:47 PM
Razor has a good point. Plus, it's a Skyline.....why change it to left hand drive....I mean. You already paid for the car: 8,000-45,000(rough guess r32-r34 in Japan), Then you pay Shipping $2,000-4,000(rough guess again), Then you would have to pay to legalize(15,000-20,000)(This is in theory if All models of R33 and R34 could even be imported at the moment), then you are saying to pay another $15,000 to get the interior converted................add this up.......I could buy a way faster car for that much :grinno: ...........geez I love Skylines but the whole point would be to have a right hand drive car. I mean you've got guys paying thousands of dollers to convert American Spec cars to Right hand drive. And you want us to pay thousands to have a Skyline converted to left hand drive..........thanks anyway......I think I'd put that money to better use.......like performance parts........... :sunglasse

thegladhatter
12-05-2004, 07:19 PM
LHD Skyline seems like sin because there ARE no REAL LHD Skylines. Why would one want to do that?

my3rdskyline
12-05-2004, 07:21 PM
I have thought of doing a RHD corvette. But that's just because I feel more used to RHD.

Moppie
12-05-2004, 10:25 PM
I have thought of doing a RHD corvette. But that's just because I feel more used to RHD.


There are quite a few of those running around NZ, I have feeling GM actualy made a limited number in each generation for export markets, And of course conversions have been done, given the corvettes fiberglass construction they are quite easy to do (certianly easier than a Skyline).

Circuit Theory
12-05-2004, 10:33 PM
I couldnt agree with you guys more however there is a market for LHD skylines at the moment I am working on a R34 LHD conversion for someone here in So Cal. And there are people in other countries who see LHD vehicles as prestigious cars and so they want a High hp car that can also be seen as a semi luxury car. I know that LHD skylines have a large demand in Russia. I know you guys are already thinking that they can get it done in UAE for 6g's or whatever it costs there but like i stated before these conversions are not mirror images of the RHD and so many people want there car to look good inside and out. Also for most guys whom own a legalized skyline in the US are very proud of there car and do not want it to be disfigured out of the country and they are also not too pinched for cash so the price is not outrageos to them. Anyhow I only posted this in this forum because I saw some threads reffering to lhd conversions. This is not what our shop focuses on and it is actually like I said before not super profitable to us but it is different and it does cause people to turn there heads and notice both the car and the shop that did it. Please point out anything you guys think is inaccurate so I can either clear it up or maybe change my approach to it.
thanks

my3rdskyline
12-05-2004, 10:34 PM
There are quite a few of those running around NZ, I have feeling GM actualy made a limited number in each generation for export markets, And of course conversions have been done, given the corvettes fiberglass construction they are quite easy to do (certianly easier than a Skyline).
I saw one in "vette fever" or "corvette" (can't remember what I was reading while on the john that day?) and I fell in love. It was a C4 I believe. It was quite a while ago though.

thegladhatter
12-05-2004, 11:37 PM
There are quite a few of those running around NZ, I have feeling GM actualy made a limited number in each generation for export markets, And of course conversions have been done, given the corvettes fiberglass construction they are quite easy to do (certianly easier than a Skyline).
Yes Chevrolet makes several of their models in RHD for export. I haven't seen a Corvette but I have seen many other models. Blazers are popular here in RHD. I know they send a lot to Australia and NZ.

thegladhatter
12-05-2004, 11:39 PM
I couldnt agree with you guys more however there is a market for LHD skylines at the moment I am working on a R34 LHD conversion for someone here in So Cal....

uh....do they intend to drive it? Is it registered?

thegladhatter
12-05-2004, 11:40 PM
I do have pics available through aim or e-mail. circuittheory@hotmail.com
thanks
So...why don't you just post them?

my3rdskyline
12-06-2004, 12:36 AM
So...why don't you just post them?
still waiting for them in my mailbox

Circuit Theory
12-06-2004, 12:48 AM
it is not registered and will most likely be a demo car of some sort i guess, I dont know if he is convinced that he can make it some sort of special construction vehicle for registration but from my research i am not convinced that can be done. I would love to post up some pics. Do I need a image host or can i simply attach. I have not had any luck doing so yet.
thanks

http://www.imagestation.com/mypictures/inbox/view.html?album_id=2134544352&id=4127250737&url=http%3A//www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid149/p1c1db76b0dfae5411e6a7ccd8e0d8c2e/f600d931.jpg&caption=lhd%20r33

my3rdskyline
12-06-2004, 01:47 AM
it is not registered and will most likely be a demo car of some sort i guess, I dont know if he is convinced that he can make it some sort of special construction vehicle for registration but from my research i am not convinced that can be done. I would love to post up some pics. Do I need a image host or can i simply attach. I have not had any luck doing so yet.
thanks

http://www.imagestation.com/mypictures/inbox/view.html?album_id=2134544352&id=4127250737&url=http%3A//www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid149/p1c1db76b0dfae5411e6a7ccd8e0d8c2e/f600d931.jpg&caption=lhd%20r33
just e-mail them to me and I will host them

thegladhatter
12-06-2004, 02:27 AM
upload them to the "Gallery" section and post from there...

thegladhatter
12-06-2004, 02:28 AM
I smell horse manure....

Circuit Theory
12-06-2004, 03:10 AM
hahaha dang busted again guess i will never be able to fit in.
Awww schucks if I only knew how to lie convincingly.
I sent My3rdskyline the pics and I posted a lhd r33 pic in members gallery. Type lhd r33 in the search bar for the members gallery.
How about I take a pic of me showin ya where the sun dont shine next to the R34 in the shop now haha. Just teasin. feel free to critique any of the photo's I post up.

PS: My3rdskyline please confirm your e-mail with me since if i try to e-mail through af it wont allow me to attach images. I sent them to root at your sites address. If this is incorrect you can pm me with your email address
thanks again

thegladhatter
12-06-2004, 03:40 AM
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/500/168043watermark.jpg
:D

BTW NICE car!

Circuit Theory
12-06-2004, 03:44 AM
thanks for throwing that up there Gladhatter. The Japanese guy squatting is responsible for all the mechanical and fabrication work of this car and the others in the gallery. His name is Hiroki and he no longer works for the company that did the car you see above.
And yes I still here what you guys are saying about it not being "right" to convert the skyline to LHD but for that rare customer it is and so we are willing to meet there needs.

my3rdskyline
12-06-2004, 03:00 PM
http://blacklinux.com/pages/public/cars/skyline/new/lhd%20r33.jpg
http://blacklinux.com/pages/public/cars/skyline/new/lhd%20r33%202.jpg
http://blacklinux.com/pages/public/cars/skyline/new/lhd%20r34.jpg
http://blacklinux.com/pages/public/cars/skyline/new/lhd%20r34%205.jpg
http://blacklinux.com/pages/public/cars/skyline/new/cleaned4.JPG

Skyline69
12-06-2004, 03:38 PM
Well I don't mean to ruin the party guys(ohh wait.....yeah I do), but this picture proves nothing........sooooo it's LHD......that doesn't mean ANYTHING!!!!!!!! I have seen some of those in Japan......They are all the rage out here.......it's funny, we want J-spec cars and they want American Spec..........I guess you always want what's hard to get. But I could of taken this picture........ :grinno:. Sorry but this picture proves nothing........I don't see any defining proof that this car is in America :nono: . And I won't, until I see a pic that can't be argued. Too many people come on here posting crap :naughty: . So prove it and I will believe.......ohh and make sure it is a really good REAL pic........I've seen all the attempts at story telling. :sunglasse

my3rdskyline
12-06-2004, 03:50 PM
the stop lines in the road are on the right side at least.

HighOctaneNOSUser
12-06-2004, 04:00 PM
Maybe by defining, take one in front of your shop? I am not doubting, nut just trying to help out.
Or, maybe have it in front of a sign saying :"Welcome to 'Your state'"....

my3rdskyline
12-06-2004, 04:02 PM
or even a speed limit sign.... they arent' hard to find.

Circuit Theory
12-07-2004, 12:06 AM
HAHHAHA man you guys are super haters. hahaha. Ok I will take some pics for all you haters. ok the R34 in the shop doesnt have a steering rack, or column but I can take some with a newspaper dated so you guys can see it is legit. And the R33 is not at my shop but I do come across it from time to time so well see. Have you guys really had this much trouble with fakers? And why cant you just ignore what the fakers say? oh well I will get those pics up as soon as I can find them from some other website, photoshop them, and then submit them here hahahha just joking they will be legit.

my3rdskyline
12-07-2004, 12:08 AM
yeah, I felt like that when I first got here too but after you've been here a while.... 90% of the posts in here are from idiots and 99% of the threads have at least one particle of BS in them so... it's nothing personal. Just e-mail me the pics when you get em and I'll put them on my site again.

Skyline69
12-07-2004, 01:03 AM
A newspaper isn't going to work...........I could get ahold of one the same day over here in Japan if I wanted to........Licence plates are no good either........You can easily get a license plate to slap on to.....like they said, sorry for hating but, there is alot of bullshit on this site.....

Circuit Theory
12-07-2004, 01:10 AM
holy hell you are a retard, hahaha you really have some trust issues, but ya know what if you really struggle that much then why dont I just take a pic with your screenname written on a sign in the engine bay and how do you suggest i do it so you cant tell it has been photochopped?

thegladhatter
12-07-2004, 01:55 AM
http://blacklinux.com/pages/public/cars/skyline/new/lhd%20r34.jpg
Which one is you?

I must admit...I am one of the biggest skeptic around here. I generally don't believe much in the way of Skyline rubbish in here, but I am beginning to see possibilities here. I, for the life of me, can't see value in the LHD conversion on a Skyline, unless we are talking showcars and such. PMs about shipping to Hong Kong make sense though.

Skyline69
12-07-2004, 03:57 PM
holy hell you are a retard, hahaha you really have some trust issues, but ya know what if you really struggle that much then why dont I just take a pic with your screenname written on a sign in the engine bay and how do you suggest i do it so you cant tell it has been photochopped?

Wow :eek7: ........You are totally missing my point :screwy: . Ok I will do this Barney :killbarne 2nd grade style for you :chair: . My screenname on a sign in an engine bay does not prove the car is in America. I could walk out to my Skyline right now and put a sign with your screenname in my engine bay.......what does that prove :dunno: ??? NOTHING. The only way to prove you are in America is to take a picture of the car next to something that only America has. Like a "Welcome to California" sign :iceslolan . Or something that proves it's in America. And to show it's you, hold a sign that says "I love AutomotiveForums"....... It's really not that hard to do........I mean.....you must know this guy........If you really want to prove me wrong......THEN DO IT! Once we know for sure it's in America then you will get the respect that you "might" deserve. You running your mouth and calling people retards isn't helping you too much :grinno: . Look at all the past threads and you will see why we doubt.......I've seen all sorts of fake pictures :shakehead .......or we catch the people stealing pics of other people's Skylines off websites.......or alot of times.....IT ISN'T EVEN THEIR CAR....it's their friend's or something.......like I said we're all sorry to doubt but the "Proof is in the pudding" my friend, or a photograph :twak: .
or like all the others before you.................you will be
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=500/98054kitten-owned.jpg

HighOctaneNOSUser
12-07-2004, 06:48 PM
God, man, you have to start listing how many people you've owned, or pwned, for that matter. I, too, do not see the purpose of having a Left Hand Drive Car. I mean, doesn't that ruin the whole luxery of something exotic? I mean, if you REALLY wanted a cheap LHD with Similar performance, buy an Impreza???

Circuit Theory
12-07-2004, 11:00 PM
Let the misunderstand continue, I am not the owner of the skylines I posted I am merely a owner of a shop who is willing to perform LHD conversions. The cars I posted were built by Hiroki the Japanese guy squatting in the picture. The car I have not at the shop is not driveable since it has been massacred by other shops and no longer has a steering rack, column, front pipe, gauge cluster, gtr monitor, etc...
So I can't simply drive the car out to a road sign and snap a pic. That is why I suggested the newspaper idea but if you can get a newspaper easily in Japan then I understand your skepticizm (sp?). So what do I have here in Southern California that you cant get in Japan? Dr.pepper?, and apple pie? I dont know what you would consider acceptable so feel free to toss out some ideas. The blue R34 above is not the same as the one in my shop and has been shipped to a private party in Taiwan from what I was told. I am not going to show you guys how massacred this car is because that would severely upset you I know. We have not begun work on the car because we are still in talks regarding the total build cost etc. I will get a pic with whatever you think we have here that you dont have in japan or anywhere else.
Thanks

HighOctaneNOSUser
12-08-2004, 09:04 AM
So, umm, not a big american, probably because I am Canadian, but let's see. A speed limit sign, or tow it out to a welcome sign, or in front of a California University, or School. Or a famous Stadium. Somewhere only Cali would have. I believe you, but again, we do have 99% BS rate on this site, so just prove peopel wrong, and we'll give you some respect.

Circuit Theory
12-08-2004, 11:30 AM
hahaha F that there is no way I am gonna waste my time and money on towing the damn car to a streetsign or anywhere. It is a project for me to even move it out of the shop now that it does not have a steering rack or column. I will take some more pics for sure. This car is not street legal so even if I was able to drive it I wouldnt, and on top of that it is a customers car.
still awaiting ideas.
thanks

HighOctaneNOSUser
12-08-2004, 11:34 AM
Alright, how about you put a big sign on the windshiel that says F U GUYS AF! And put a paper cup on the spoiler with you sitting on the hood?

Skyline69
12-08-2004, 03:27 PM
That still wouldn't make me believe. :grinno: I am the biggest Skeptic here. :iceslolan I could go out to my Skyline and do that......still don't prove it's in America. I still wanna know how it got past customs. :eek7:

Skyline69
12-08-2004, 03:31 PM
ooohhh I have an idea.........a few hot, blond haired, blue eyed, porn stars in bikinis sitting on the hood or leaning against the car :smokin: ........ohhhhhh......wait that still wouldn't prove muc :uhoh: h.........I need to be alone now :p ......

**Shuffles away**

HighOctaneNOSUser
12-08-2004, 03:45 PM
How about in front of a stop sign on the right side of the road? Or maybe a speed limit sign? Or the American Registration for one of the cars?

thegladhatter
12-08-2004, 04:38 PM
CT I don't think you need to prove anything. You haven't made any outlandish claims. The cars AREN'T legal. You said that. What difference does it make? Getting through customs isn't that hard. The registration is what is hard.

Skeptics can chill. It doesn't matter. This isn't the same as coming in here claiming you have a nice R34 sitting in your garage and asking dumb questions about how to register it.

HighOctaneNOSUser
12-08-2004, 04:44 PM
Lol, he's go a point, 69....

Yeah, who cares. It's a forum. Not the ned of the world if one EXTREMELY skeptical person don't believe, it's not like it's you against the world.

Skyline69
12-08-2004, 09:06 PM
Well if soooo many people wouldn't tell outlandish stories then we'd all have no problem believing :iceslolan . Customs isn't hard to get past??? What?? What are you gonna tell them.....???? They're gonna think you just want to drive it. :eek7:

Circuit Theory
12-08-2004, 10:02 PM
ok I sent out the pics to my3rdskyline so there should be some more "proof" of my claims up soon. thanks again my3rdskyline for your help. Let me know what you guys think also let me know what you think of the 240z. Oh yeah in the pics i have a monster energy drink in one that i dont think has made it's way to Japan yet and I also have a LA Auto Guide in another but it is backwards so you can see the motorex advertisement on the back. And I did get a pic with Hiroki sitting on the firewall where the windshield used to be holding a monster energy drink and saying "what hell I have to do this for?"

OK I found some time to get registered on photobucket and now can host my own pics. thanks again for your help my3rdskyline.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v618/CircuitTheory/HirokiWHAT.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v618/CircuitTheory/TomDrvnLHD2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v618/CircuitTheory/r34240z.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v618/CircuitTheory/JunG-nose240z.jpg

my3rdskyline
12-08-2004, 11:38 PM
http://blacklinux.com/pages/public/cars/skyline/new/

That Z doesn't happen to be RB powered is it?

Circuit Theory
12-08-2004, 11:45 PM
it has the orignal L24 motor in it now but if you want a RB26 in it we can do it and I will get it it registered for someone who wants it done since it is Pre-smog. The owner was starting an importing company (Japanese guy) he spent way too much money on the Z and now has to sell it so he can afford a Harley Mechanic school in Florida so he can buy them used fix them and then sell them back to Japan. Anyhow It is registered in CA now and yes it is a CA car so it is LHD and we can put in a RB26 or a RB25 or even a Sr20det for that matter, all of which will put out more power than the original L24. Did I mention it has 70,000 original miles. Sorry for gettin off topic.

Skyline69
12-09-2004, 01:10 AM
What's your first name Circuit Theory :smokin: . You look suspiciously like my friend John. :iceslolan

Circuit Theory
12-09-2004, 01:25 AM
My name is Tom Lightvoet but you can call me john if you apologize for putting me through the ringer and wastin time at the shop. HAHA ok ok you don't have to apologize I have searched the forums pretty thoroughly now and totally understand where you guys are coming from in regards to newbies making outrageous claim. Anyhow this thread went all kinds of different directions so why dont we get it closed and is there someone I need to pm in order to figure out if I am allowed to even propose the LHD conversion to the public on here?
thanks
Tom (not John)

Skyline69
12-09-2004, 02:19 AM
LOL :lol: .....you just looked really familiar to me. Maybe I met you before. I was in Cali before. I used to hang out in LA, San Diego, and San Bernadino. :smokin:

thegladhatter
12-09-2004, 02:39 AM
Youre in California?? Do you know John Smith? He is a guy I know. He is in California TOO!!



:D

nismo_power
12-09-2004, 02:42 AM
i couldve told you guys this one is real :D one of the pictures he posted.....Import Tuner had an article on this very same shop doing the rhd to lhd conversions. granted it wasnt a big article, but it broke down the whole scene on the shop and what they were doing. thats even the exact same blue r34 they used in the pictures. let me find the magazine (most of em dont have covers anymore from being left on the floor), and ill scan the article.

HighOctaneNOSUser
12-09-2004, 09:03 AM
Hey, if Import Tuner says it's ok....


Lol, J/K, not all too bad a magazine...

Circuit Theory
12-09-2004, 11:29 AM
Hiroki worked at the shop that was in Modified Magazine, and Sport Compact Car. That shop was Skyline Motors and it has closed down due to poor management (I'll just say money was being spent in other places other than on the customers cars and thats why the Blue R34 in the shop never got worked on by Hiroki because his former boss mis-used the money and could not afford the project after) Any how we are Circuit Theory not at all to be confused with Skyline Motors or Alexander Hiroki's former boss.

Shoot if what Import tuner says is true then we should part out the R34 and slap those tail lights on a sweeeeeeeet honda Civic hatch. ahaha

I do know John Smith. Thats crazy my buddy John Doe introduced us, that guy has like 12 r33's and r34's that he legalized on his own!

Well I am hoping we have this all sorted out now thanks for the less accusing replies this time haha.

HighOctaneNOSUser
12-09-2004, 11:42 AM
Lol. Have you been formally introducd to Senior Blank?

Oks. Yeah, Import has a lot of Ricey cars, but soem articls aren't all TOO bad.

Do YOU know why the LHD's are actually popular? I don't see the point.

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