Favorite Ferrari?

Which would you kill to have? :naughty:

My choice:

F40...for the reason of being light (2400 lbs IIRC)...V8TT, 477HP, 0-60 in 3.2 seconds...crazy sick fast!

And why not to choose the Enzo...personally...it's ugly!!! :2cents:

i choose the F40 as well. its the last of the twin turbo ferrari's and its ferrari in one of its purist form. its also arguably the best looking ferrari.

288 GTO. My favorite Ferrari ever, although i might be biased since it started my love for Ferrari.

It also looks like a proper cavalino should, passionate menacing and sexi.

this one is hard. for looks, the modena has it, but compared to the other ferrari's, it doesn't have the speed to match them. so i choose the enzo. i think that ferrari is changing as a company and is making cars to have the best racing technology on the road. and the enzo is a perfect example for that. the styling is contreversial, but i personally like it.

from the list, it has to be the 288GTO.

but then again
there are so many others that aren't there.
no 250 (GTO or Lusso).
no 246 Dino?
365 Boxer as opposed to the 512?

ENZO
i like the name...
hahaha

My favorite Ferrari has to be the F50. A car that has the power and handling to match its looks.

And NISSANSPDR, who is that girl under your signature? She's gorgeous.

from the list, it has to be the 288GTO.

but then again
there are so many others that aren't there.
no 250 (GTO or Lusso).
no 246 Dino?
365 Boxer as opposed to the 512?

I cant put all the Ferrari's up there...I mean in essence...all Ferrari's are great...in their own unique way...

But I allowed the leeway of interpretation on one of the choices...

I put 512...did I mean 512BB or 512TR? It's up to you...just post up which you like

Except that the only front engine V12 Ferrari you included in the poll is the Maranello.

Clearly, you made a GRAVE ERROR if you've removed the cars that made Ferrari fantastic. Ferrari is at its best when the engine is a V12, mounted in front of the driver, with a 5 or 6 speed manual transmission shifted through a chromed nickel silver gate.

You ignored the 250 series.

You ignored the 275 and the Daytona.

You left out the 166MM Barchetta (arguably the most influential roadster of the 50's).

No mention of the Testa Rossa (that's the original 250TR, not the flat twelve abomination)

And all of the great competition Ferraris! The 555 Supersqualo. The 330P4. The 250LM. The 330LMB. The Tipo 156 "Sharknose", the 312 family, the 512M's, and the list goes on and on.

Quite honestly, you can't put the F50 in the same league as even the less successful competition tipos of the 60's. The F50 was an anniversary celebration roadster and a homogation special for the 333SP's engine in IMSA competition. If anything, the 333SP should be in the spot of the F50 for being the most successful racing Ferrari built after Enzo's death.

Layla's Keeper...it's simple...I choose the best from the last 20 years...and I put them up...I didnt want it to go back that far...so yes...I ignored some...but...I wanted a poll and I can post up all the Ferrari's in the world...

If it's a bad comparo/poll...just ignore me...

F40 - but i have to correct you on that stat, NISSANSPR, the F40 doesn't do 0-60 in 3.2s. It's only capable of doing it in the high 3's, 3.8 i think :eek:

F40's all around! :iagree:

I remember the F40 being the first Ferrari since the Countach's release that really pushed Enzo's shop undisputedly ahead.

What a timeless style, and that wicked boxed spoiler – I remember hearing that at 200 Mph the rear spoiler (along with other components you’d think) provides enough down force to keep the F40 planted to the ground even if the road were turned upside down. Trying to remember if they had a commercial about that or what?...

It might sound silly but a dream I have if I were filthy whore rich would be to have a black F40 beater! Yup, I don’t know why – I guess because I’ve never seen a black F40 to begin with and moreover never seen one get dusty and dirty (and the black would really make the grime stand out LOL!) I’d have all kinds of mint cars, collectors, etc… but I’d want to have my F40 daily driver – just to see people’s faces when you pull up to the grocery store in this dinged up and dusty supercar, then tearing out like a bloody madman hitting potholes, bottoming out the car on bumps, nicking curbs etc... Sounds crazy YES but I think I’d love that car more than the red collectors one back at the mansion thats rarely driven :2cents:

What a timeless style, and that wicked boxed spoiler – I remember hearing that at 200 Mph the rear spoiler (along with other components you’d think) provides enough down force to keep the F40 planted to the ground even if the road were turned upside down. Trying to remember if they had a commercial about that or what?...



I dont think Ferrari has ever had TV commercials...who needs to advertise when you can go 200MPH

And the Black F40 beater...bad idea...sacrilige!!!

I dont think Ferrari has ever had TV commercials...who needs to advertise when you can go 200MPH

And the Black F40 beater...bad idea...sacrilige!!!

lol thats what would be so freakin cool! Putting a bunch of near death misses on her, just diving it into the ground - well no, keeping it mechanically maintained and tip top, just not worrying every second its off you driveway about some old lady smackin her door/backing into it.

Remember, this fantasy of mine has me owning every single other Ferrari ever made and in showroom condition... :grinyes:

You'd become famous doing this!!

F40's all around! :iagree:

I remember the F40 being the first Ferrari since the Countach's release that really pushed Enzo's shop undisputedly ahead.



Eheh, you do realize that the Countach was released in 1974? I mean, yes the Countach was striking (compared to the faster, better handling, but still front engined 365GTB Daytona) but it was an ill handling problematic tank of a car with no competition lineage (after all, Ferrucio personally quashed the Jota project for making a competition quality Miura in favor of producing Jota replicas for his elite customers).

The 512 Berlinetta Boxer was superior in every way to the Countach, including in its F1 derived flat 12 engine with the transaxle mounted beneath the engine block for a shorter wheelbase (and more nimble handling). Plus the 512BB still made it onto the race track with some limited success in the hands of factory backed privateers as opposed to Lamborghini's public declaration of not wanting to compete.

http://www.fast-autos.net/ferrari/512bblm2.jpg

And do I really have to bring up the 288GTO? I mean, c'mon, we're talking about Ferrari's attempt at a tarmac rally special to slam Porsche around. Too bad Group B was cancelled else we would've seen the GTO "Evoluzione".

http://www.fast-autos.net/ferrari/gtoevo.jpg

As great as the 288GTO is and rare...isnt it just the F40's father...so isnt the son better since he's leaner?

whoa... don't put down the F50 so easily.
that's one of the few modern ferraris that is uses almost 100% bespoke parts.
as a 'road car' what they did and the fashion in which they did it is quite special.
i mean, how many cars then had the engine as a stress component of the chassis?
lots of cars claim 'no-compromise' but not many actually live up to that like the F50 does.

and the boxer.
for me, only the 365 does it.
triple lights at the rear to match the triple pipes.
pure class.

Hands down I would have to pick the 288 GTO. It has always been one of my favorite looking Ferraris. It also puts out 400 BHP and 365 ft/lbs of torque. For you Honda lovers, that is 140 BHP per liter. All that is good for around 190 MPH and 0-60 in about 5 seconds. Also, let's not mention the fact that it was twin turbo-charged, I just love turbos.

The F-40 comes in a close second. I like the F-40 because a lot of it's styling was borrowed from the 288 GTO, and it was twin turbo-charged as well. In third comes the 360 Modena, which should need no explanation. Great handling, great style, and great price.

I don't care for the Enzo or the F-50 because I don’t care for the looks of either of them. Like Layla said, there are a lot of very good Ferraris missing from the list, but these are my choices given the poll.

As great as the 288GTO is and rare...isnt it just the F40's father...so isnt the son better since he's leaner?

Actually, the F40 wasn't even a thought in Enzo's mind when the 288GTO was born.

Quick history lesson.

In the late 70's, early 80's, Ferrari and Lancia operated very close together. It was an alliance they forged in the 50's when Ferrari purchased the defunct Lancia team's F1 cars - the D50's - for use in Formula One. Ferrari driver Juan-Manuel Fangio won the F1 championship in 1956 using a Ferrari-Lancia D50.

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/images/large/243-1.jpg

During the 70's, Lancia used a Ferrari engine - the Dino 2.4L DOHC V6 - for their epochal Group 4 rally car, the Lancia Stratos.

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/images/large/1087-7.jpg

It was through the close association with the Lancia Stratos program that Enzo Ferrari became curious about rallying. Even though Lancia moved on to use a highly modified Beta Montecarlo with a turbo four - the infamous O37 - in the early days of Group B, they still operated closely with Ferrari using a twin turbo variant of the 308's 3.0L V8 engine in their Group C car; the LC2.

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/images/large/248-6.jpg

Now, while Ferrari-engined Lancias had dominated rallying in the 70's and were a threat at Le Mans and many other sports prototype races in Europe, Enzo had received word that bitter enemy Porsche were preparing a car for competition in the World Rally Championship's Group B category (this car was to become the 959 supercar).

Wanting to prove his cars both better handling and faster than their nemesis - the 911 which the 959 (codenamed at the time Gruppe B) - Enzo Ferrari set about similarly modifying the 308 using all that Lancia had learned about turbocharging the Ferrari V8 and running it longitudinally in the chassis rather than transversely through the LC2 program and all they'd learned about RWD tarmac rally cars through the Stratos and O37 programs.

Lancia's input proved very effective when combined with Ferrari's vast knowledge of building race cars. Using kevlar bodywork, IHI turbos, Weber-Marelli fuel injection, and a further laundry list of components from the LC2 program, Enzo's new GTO (recalling the name from his previous factory competion coupe) produced an inspiring 400hp from 2.8L's, with 8 cylinders.

The car weighed 200lbs less than the 308 and 800lbs less than the 512BB, even though it was bigger. And it had to be bigger in order to make room for the new transmission, Dallara - the folks who'd done the LC2 chassis work for Lancia - inspired suspension, and fenderwells designed to accept rubber up to 12inches wide for competition (delivered with 8in at the front and 10in at the rear). The material construction, primarily Kevlar and fiberglass, was handled by none other than Ferrari's F1 chassis man Dr. Harvey Postlethwaite.

As a road car, the 288GTO was the very first roadcar to break 300kph, and soundly trounced the 959 road car with its top speed of 189mph and 0-125mph in 15.2seconds.

But, as with the 250GTO some 22years before it, this was a homologation special built only so that the race car could compete - truly a Gran Turismo Omologato. As soon as he'd proven to the FIA that 200 cars were built, the Evoluzione competion model was debuted, and Enzo planned to build 30-40 of them in order to rule Group B tarmac rallying - allowing Lancia and their S4 to rule the gravel stuff.

Unfortunately, the S4 proved to be the downfall of the Evoluzione. When rally star Henri Toivonen (the rallying equivalent of Gilles Villeneuve) was killed along with his co-driver in a high speed incident - the latest in a stream of fatal and near fatal incidents, some of which included spectators - the FIA ruled Group B as too dangerous and killed the category before either the Porsche 959 or the Ferrari 288GTO could be homologated.

As such, only 5 Evoluziones were ever built and the 288GTO remained an astounding road car, while the 959 got prepared to run the Paris-Dakar rally (where it scored many wins) and was also converted to the 961 Le Mans racer.

The 288GTO, to this day, stands as a testament to three things.

1: Enzo Ferrari's desire to win.
2: The incomparable link between Lancia and Ferrari,
3: The dizzying heights Group B was reaching as it neared its death.

The 288GTO is much more than the father of the F40. It is the true successor to the legendary 250GTO and a monument to Ferrari's racing lineage. The F40 Enzo built as a tribute to his company's past. The 288GTO Enzo built as a vision of Ferrari's future.

My favorite Ferrari has to be the F50.

Face it kids... Layla's Keeper will pwn you on the topic of Ferrari.


If Ferrari was a topic on Final Jeopardy... Layla's Keeper would be a millionaire.

layla, why arent you writing for some big time magazine?
i'll admit it, i'm overwhelmed by your knowledge of cars. your like the grandpa telling the young kids how it really is.

lol Careful with that Grandpa stuff. I just turned twenty day before Thanksgiving.

And I actually co-wrote a column for RPM Racing News (a weekly short track newspaper out of Latrobe, PA) with my father for three years. We covered mostly the midwest asphalt beat.

lol Careful with that Grandpa stuff. I just turned twenty day before Thanksgiving.

And I actually co-wrote a column for RPM Racing News (a weekly short track newspaper out of Latrobe, PA) with my father for three years. We covered mostly the midwest asphalt beat.


And where the booze is cheap... and the women are cheaper.

The greatest looking Ferrari goes to the 250 LM

The Ferrari I want the most goes to the 250 GT SWB


The best Ferrari, though has to be either the 288 GTO or the F40 (I honestly can't decide)

As a road car, the 288GTO was the very first roadcar to break 300kph, and soundly trounced the 959 road car with its top speed of 189mph and 0-125mph in 15.2seconds.

If by trouncing you mean being slower, then yes, the 288GTO did indeed trounce the 959 ;)

The 288GTO was the superior handling car and the enthusiast driver's choice, though I'll admit to the 959 being 1mph faster than the 288GTO and being substantially quicker 0-60 (nearly a second quicker).

However, the production 959 also came out 3 years after the 288GTO (1984 versus 1987) and had 50 more bhp, traction control, and AWD.

Too bad some other twin turbo sports car came out in 1987.

http://www.fast-autos.net/ferrari/f4013.jpg

The 959 was actually about 8mph quicker and as you say far more accelerative than the 288. Sure, it wasn't as raw as the F40, but it moved the game on substantially. Both terrific cars in their own way.

wow layla's keeper, your only 20?!?! holy shit!!!! damn you must be working on cars and racing since you were like 3 years old to aquire so much knowledge.

he was 2 when he did his first engine swap

he was 2 when he did his first engine swap
Yep and he read his first "Labybird book of cars" before he was even conceived :D

lol

iam glad you didnt put the 456M in there...That piece is the worst car i think has come from Ferrari...It's got a V-12 and around 460HP yet it cant even go 0-60 in under 5 seconds.....And dont even get me stated with the GTA version...4-speed automatic in a Ferrari=complete disgrace....

I mean, if you're putting it against the F40, F50 and F60... why not make the 360 in this comparison a Challenge Stradale?

Absolutely the most poised and balanced Ferrari EVER, and the best looking. It may not be the fastest, but I still give it a 3 on the finger scale... (meaning i'd cut off 3 fingers to have it)

burntrice, the 456GT was never meant to perform as an exotic or as a supercar. It's a gentleman's 4 seat GT car in the same class as an Aston Martin DB7 or one of the big V12 Mercedes.

Furthermore, the 456GT FINANCED (in Europe) the F355 and the 550 Maranello projects, and laid the groundwork for the 612 Scaglietti, the Maranello replacement, and the Maserati Quattroporte.

The 456GT furthered a long line of big Ferrari luxury sport coupes that starts all the way back at the 250GT Berlinetta Lusso and includes such luminaries as the 500 Superfast, the 330GTC, and the 410 Superamerica.

Not to mention I'm a big fan of the seven 456GT Estates (that's station wagon in Yank speak) that Ferrari and Pininfarina built on order as a gift to the Sultan of Brunei.

http://www.classicdriver.com/upload/images/reportagen/week_28_01/car_pop04.jpg
http://www.classicdriver.com/upload/images/reportagen/week_28_01/car_pop05.jpg
http://www.classicdriver.com/upload/images/reportagen/week_28_01/car_pop02a.jpg

Ferrari owes a lot to the 456GT, and the car is a very handsome coupe with good pedigree (even though it is one of two Ferraris to ever be offered with an automatic gearbox).

Now, you want to talk worst Ferrari ever, let's talk Bertone 308GT/4.

http://www.motorbase.com/pictures/contributions/990720//std_75_ferrari-fiat_dino_308_gt4.jpg

"Now, you want to talk worst Ferrari ever, let's talk Bertone 308GT/4"

but.... rip out two seats and put a new body on it and it beomes a 'good' car?

admittedly, after the dream that is the 246 dino, lord alone knows what happened.....

Well, the Pininfarina body made it adequate. It took the Quattrovalvole version with the fiberglass body to make the 308GTB a good car, and it took fuel injection to make it a great car.

My cousin Barry owns a Quattrovalvole carbureted 308GTB. When it runs right, it runs like a dream. When it's wrong, well, it's a hiccuping stuttering case of vapor-lock waiting to happen.

The joys of a brace of four Weber carbs. :banghead:

burntrice, the 456GT was never meant to perform as an exotic or as a supercar. It's a gentleman's 4 seat GT car in the same class as an Aston Martin DB7 or one of the big V12 Mercedes.

Furthermore, the 456GT FINANCED (in Europe) the F355 and the 550 Maranello projects, and laid the groundwork for the 612 Scaglietti, the Maranello replacement, and the Maserati Quattroporte.

The 456GT furthered a long line of big Ferrari luxury sport coupes that starts all the way back at the 250GT Berlinetta Lusso and includes such luminaries as the 500 Superfast, the 330GTC, and the 410 Superamerica.

Not to mention I'm a big fan of the seven 456GT Estates (that's station wagon in Yank speak) that Ferrari and Pininfarina built on order as a gift to the Sultan of Brunei.

http://www.classicdriver.com/upload/images/reportagen/week_28_01/car_pop04.jpg
http://www.classicdriver.com/upload/images/reportagen/week_28_01/car_pop05.jpg
http://www.classicdriver.com/upload/images/reportagen/week_28_01/car_pop02a.jpg

Ferrari owes a lot to the 456GT, and the car is a very handsome coupe with good pedigree (even though it is one of two Ferraris to ever be offered with an automatic gearbox).

Well said. And those pics were taken in the park i had lunch in today! :D

thats a nice car, never knew it existed. whats the specs
on that baby? 0-60 in 4.8? 12.8 in the 1320?

"a hiccuping stuttering case of vapor-lock waiting to happen."

well, at least it doesn't set itself on fire at traffic lights, which by the way, never stopped people claiming the miura being the greatest ever lamborghini.....

Well said. And those pics were taken in the park i had lunch in today! :D


Oh its that you on the white horse? And i though you wanted to buy a porche not a horse. What happened? :uhoh:

Oh its that you on the white horse?
No, i'm the one in blue. Red's never been a good colour for me :p

And i though you wanted to buy a porche not a horse. What happened? :uhoh:
Might be out of a job this time next month so i figured i'd save on fuel costs with a horse. Plus i always wanted to play My Little Pony in real life :icon16:

























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