FQ400. CorvetteZ51. 911 Carrera
Kurtdg19
11-26-2004, 05:50 PM
Ok here we go. What we have here are 3 cars designed with a different approach, and very similar goals in mind. Each car brings a full boat to the table with a very rich history. The FQ400, one of the best cars of its kind to date relying on a small displacement FI powerplant providing work for each wheel. 05 Corvette Z51, one of the best Vette's to date that pushes everything lacked and wanted from its predecessor. Providing 6 liters of raw torque and power to the rear wheels to invigorate every square inch of rubber it distortes. And last (but not least), the 911 Carrera. An elegant approach to creating one of the best sports cars known. Working with the traditional Rear engine, rear wheel drive instrument perfected with over 40 years to its name.
With this in mind, where do your opinions stand? We have all equally good cars that implent different idea's to create unique character that is well defined. Do these cars live up to their price tag? Which car suits your driver needs? Does their performance oriented design serve justice? What is your overall feeling torwards these cars?
I tried to keep these cars in a reasonable price range (so I didn't include the Carrera S). Remember, lets not focus only on objective justification. I want to hear your opinions!
2005 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution MR FQ400
2.0L Turbocharged 4-Cylinder
405HP@6800RPM
355TQ@5000RPM
6-Speed Manual
Front Engine / AWD
Cost:47,000pounds
2005 Chevrolet Corvette Z51
6.0 Liter LS2
400HP@6000RPM
400TQ@4400RPM
6-Speed Manual
Front Engine / RWD
Cost:40,000pounds
2005 Porsche 911 Carrera
3.6 Liter
325HP@6800RPM
273TQ@4250RPM
6-Speed Manual
Rear-Engine / RWD
Cost:58,000pounds
*numbers may differ*
With this in mind, where do your opinions stand? We have all equally good cars that implent different idea's to create unique character that is well defined. Do these cars live up to their price tag? Which car suits your driver needs? Does their performance oriented design serve justice? What is your overall feeling torwards these cars?
I tried to keep these cars in a reasonable price range (so I didn't include the Carrera S). Remember, lets not focus only on objective justification. I want to hear your opinions!
2005 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution MR FQ400
2.0L Turbocharged 4-Cylinder
405HP@6800RPM
355TQ@5000RPM
6-Speed Manual
Front Engine / AWD
Cost:47,000pounds
2005 Chevrolet Corvette Z51
6.0 Liter LS2
400HP@6000RPM
400TQ@4400RPM
6-Speed Manual
Front Engine / RWD
Cost:40,000pounds
2005 Porsche 911 Carrera
3.6 Liter
325HP@6800RPM
273TQ@4250RPM
6-Speed Manual
Rear-Engine / RWD
Cost:58,000pounds
*numbers may differ*
NISSANSPDR
11-26-2004, 10:12 PM
The MR is a great buy and w/it's tunability...you can probably do really well on the track/strip where you want to take it...
The new C6 is not that impressive...
The new C6 is not that impressive...
crayzayjay
11-27-2004, 08:42 AM
The FQ 400 takes the Shitsubishi Evo to a new level of tacky. Those rear winglets could actually make me puke. Ok it's extremely quick but the power delivery isn't as progressive as in a less highly-tuned turbo four.
The C6 handles well, is super quick and terrific VFM, though still substantially marked up on the US price here in the UK. If they priced it more aggressively, or improved the interior, i would undoubtedly see more than a couple per year. I also prefer the looks of the C5.
The 911 is my personal favourite. Again the rear-engined layout has been tweaked and even the 'basic' 911 is capable of phenomenal cornering speeds, whilst maintaining the ingredients that make a great 911. The 911S isn't much slower than a 996 GT3 around a track, which is pretty good going imo...
The C6 handles well, is super quick and terrific VFM, though still substantially marked up on the US price here in the UK. If they priced it more aggressively, or improved the interior, i would undoubtedly see more than a couple per year. I also prefer the looks of the C5.
The 911 is my personal favourite. Again the rear-engined layout has been tweaked and even the 'basic' 911 is capable of phenomenal cornering speeds, whilst maintaining the ingredients that make a great 911. The 911S isn't much slower than a 996 GT3 around a track, which is pretty good going imo...
VQuick
11-27-2004, 11:26 AM
The FQ 400 takes the Shitsubishi Evo to a new level of tacky. Those rear winglets could actually make me puke. Ok it's extremely quick but the power delivery isn't as progressive as in a less highly-tuned turbo four.
I know what you mean. The FQ400 is good performance value, but not necessarily asthetic value. Still 47k GBP is a lot for a Mitsubishi.
The C6 handles well, is super quick and terrific VFM, though still substantially marked up on the US price here in the UK. If they priced it more aggressively, or improved the interior, i would undoubtedly see more than a couple per year. I also prefer the looks of the C5.
The 'Vette is good performance value too. The C6 is 40k over there, right? GM could probably drop the price another 5k or so and undercut the Tamora and T350C. It might cheapen the 'Vette's image a bit, but in the UK it probably doesn't have much of an image to tarnish in the first place.
The 911 is my personal favourite. Again the rear-engined layout has been tweaked and even the 'basic' 911 is capable of phenomenal cornering speeds, whilst maintaining the ingredients that make a great 911. The 911S isn't much slower than a 996 GT3 around a track, which is pretty good going imo...
I don't like the price, but the performance is undeniable. Great car.
I know what you mean. The FQ400 is good performance value, but not necessarily asthetic value. Still 47k GBP is a lot for a Mitsubishi.
The C6 handles well, is super quick and terrific VFM, though still substantially marked up on the US price here in the UK. If they priced it more aggressively, or improved the interior, i would undoubtedly see more than a couple per year. I also prefer the looks of the C5.
The 'Vette is good performance value too. The C6 is 40k over there, right? GM could probably drop the price another 5k or so and undercut the Tamora and T350C. It might cheapen the 'Vette's image a bit, but in the UK it probably doesn't have much of an image to tarnish in the first place.
The 911 is my personal favourite. Again the rear-engined layout has been tweaked and even the 'basic' 911 is capable of phenomenal cornering speeds, whilst maintaining the ingredients that make a great 911. The 911S isn't much slower than a 996 GT3 around a track, which is pretty good going imo...
I don't like the price, but the performance is undeniable. Great car.
Layla's Keeper
11-27-2004, 03:46 PM
Well, in reality this comparison comes down to the Porsche and the Corvette, as the Mitsubishi's combination of idiotic styling, 4 doors, and suspect reliability (what's the going tally on smoked Evo clutches coming back under warranty now? Gotta be looking like the twin turbo RX-7 list at Mazda) takes it out of the running early.
Plus, it doesn't matter how fast you make an economy sedan. It doesn't make it a sports car.
Of the two cars, you've got equal history and promenance in the motoring world, and both are the latest generation of their respective lines. The Corvette has made another leap forward in driving dynamics and performance (and many improvements in the C5's world class interior quality) and can only get better. the 911 has done what 911's have always done, quiet evolution towards something extraordinary.
When Harley Earl put the first fiberglass roadster body on a shortened Bel Air chassis in 1953, and when Ferry slipped a 1 instead of a zero into the name of project 901 to avoid bickering with Peugeot, who'd have guessed that these cars would become equals in the 21st Century?
And, honestly, I'd pick the Vette over the Porsche in this instance, prefer the styling and the driving dynamic of the Vette.
Plus, it doesn't matter how fast you make an economy sedan. It doesn't make it a sports car.
Of the two cars, you've got equal history and promenance in the motoring world, and both are the latest generation of their respective lines. The Corvette has made another leap forward in driving dynamics and performance (and many improvements in the C5's world class interior quality) and can only get better. the 911 has done what 911's have always done, quiet evolution towards something extraordinary.
When Harley Earl put the first fiberglass roadster body on a shortened Bel Air chassis in 1953, and when Ferry slipped a 1 instead of a zero into the name of project 901 to avoid bickering with Peugeot, who'd have guessed that these cars would become equals in the 21st Century?
And, honestly, I'd pick the Vette over the Porsche in this instance, prefer the styling and the driving dynamic of the Vette.
christophv
11-28-2004, 06:59 AM
I'd take the Porsche, simply for it's overall performance of speed, handling and reliability.
when it comes to the straight line - the corvette wins, as I'd assume.
I'd still take the Porsche, I'd loose, but I'd drive home in my 911.
cu
when it comes to the straight line - the corvette wins, as I'd assume.
I'd still take the Porsche, I'd loose, but I'd drive home in my 911.
cu
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