5.0 stang vs. lt1 camaro vs. 300zx turbo
matt11583
11-23-2004, 08:50 PM
which one of these cars would be the best all around car? i want to kno for reliability, handling, top end speed, acceleration, fun to drive ect.... i kon that they all have their ups n downs but which one would be the best overall...
CamaroSSBoy346
11-23-2004, 09:20 PM
Reliability-As long as you take care of it...
Handling-Probably the 300zx
Top Speed-Camaro. 161mph
Accel-300 again?
I'd have to say that the camaro would be the most fun, which that could be considered a bit biased.
Handling-Probably the 300zx
Top Speed-Camaro. 161mph
Accel-300 again?
I'd have to say that the camaro would be the most fun, which that could be considered a bit biased.
kman10587
11-23-2004, 09:55 PM
The 300ZX should take the cake in acceleration, handling, and all-around performance, but it's gonna cost a lot more (and I'm talking mostly maintenance costs here) than an LT1 Camaro. They're both a pain in the ass to work on, but they're both fairly reliable if you take care of them. I'd say go for the 300ZX if you have the money for it; otherwise, stick with the LT1.
k3smostwanted
11-24-2004, 01:28 AM
:iagree: with kman...
eventhough i didnt know the lt1 camaro's top-speed is 161mph...is that the computer's limiter or is there no limiter?
eventhough i didnt know the lt1 camaro's top-speed is 161mph...is that the computer's limiter or is there no limiter?
-The Stig-
11-24-2004, 04:12 AM
I believe they are limited to 155mph.
k3smostwanted
11-24-2004, 06:21 AM
well in that case, i am pretty sure that the Twin Turbo is limited to 155 also.
NISSANSPDR
11-24-2004, 10:16 AM
well in that case, i am pretty sure that the Twin Turbo is limited to 155 also.
That's easily corrected
:grinyes:
That's easily corrected
:grinyes:
k3smostwanted
11-24-2004, 07:59 PM
oh yeah...remove the limiter and you can burry that needle. :evillol:
matt11583
11-24-2004, 09:17 PM
how much maintance is a 300zx gonna take???
Broke_as_****
11-25-2004, 12:31 AM
Depends on how much previous maintence the car has had (remember that they were last built stateside in 1996) and how much you plan to whip on it. The VG motor beefed to an extreme and even the twin turbo engines can easily last into the 200k mile range. But they usually don't because some retard decides its a good idea to run it to redline off every stoplight after turning the boost up to the bleeding edge of the stock fuel injectors ablities. Then they don't change the oil for a year. Stupid people kill cars.
Anyway, a clean VG30DETT isn't really that hard to find and requires little maintence, more than a Honda or something but its a performance engine so its expected. The rest of the car is just as stout and aside from normal wear and tear items like clutches and brake pads, its pretty good on maintence.
But as you can see \/ I may be more than a little biased here.
Anyway, a clean VG30DETT isn't really that hard to find and requires little maintence, more than a Honda or something but its a performance engine so its expected. The rest of the car is just as stout and aside from normal wear and tear items like clutches and brake pads, its pretty good on maintence.
But as you can see \/ I may be more than a little biased here.
ForceFed300zx
12-10-2004, 04:14 AM
This is an easy question. The Z will be the easiest to get crap loads of power out of. It already has turbos and lower compression. Swap out the turbos, some big injectors, new ecu. You can get well over 500 rwhp. Lets face it, there is nothing like japanese reliability. Chevy and ford are junk. My Dad is a big fan of domestics and he spends more time working on them than racing them. The Z will out accelerate, out handle, and the ecu upgrade I talked about gets rid of the governor. Don't waste your time on trying to get those other pieces of junk fast. Go with the proven engineering of the Z. I have three and I personally believe they are the best cars every built. I built an 11 second car for 7 thousand dollars!
pre98zetec
12-10-2004, 06:58 AM
This is an easy question. The Z will be the easiest to get crap loads of power out of. It already has turbos and lower compression. Swap out the turbos, some big injectors, new ecu. You can get well over 500 rwhp. Lets face it, there is nothing like japanese reliability. Chevy and ford are junk. My Dad is a big fan of domestics and he spends more time working on them than racing them. The Z will out accelerate, out handle, and the ecu upgrade I talked about gets rid of the governor. Don't waste your time on trying to get those other pieces of junk fast. Go with the proven engineering of the Z. I have three and I personally believe they are the best cars every built. I built an 11 second car for 7 thousand dollars!You could build a 10 second car out of the 5 liter for 7k, that's including the price of the car...
kman10587
12-10-2004, 01:39 PM
Lets face it, there is nothing like japanese reliability. Chevy and ford are junk.
I personally agree with you somewhat, but I'd advise you to cut that shit out before you get banned.
I personally agree with you somewhat, but I'd advise you to cut that shit out before you get banned.
Andydg
12-10-2004, 01:43 PM
You could build a 10 second car out of the 5 liter for 7k, that's including the price of the car...
I've seen that done before, 5.0's have a lot of cheap potential from what I've seen.
I've seen that done before, 5.0's have a lot of cheap potential from what I've seen.
Muscletang
12-10-2004, 07:49 PM
Don't waste your time on trying to get those other pieces of junk fast. Go with the proven engineering of the Z. I have three and I personally believe they are the best cars every built. I built an 11 second car for 7 thousand dollars!
I promise you 7 grand will go much farther in the LT1 and 5.0 than it will in the Z. The parts for both engines are limitless and very easy to get.
I promise you 7 grand will go much farther in the LT1 and 5.0 than it will in the Z. The parts for both engines are limitless and very easy to get.
chevydrummer76
12-10-2004, 08:06 PM
This is an easy question. The Z will be the easiest to get crap loads of power out of. It already has turbos and lower compression. Swap out the turbos, some big injectors, new ecu. You can get well over 500 rwhp. Lets face it, there is nothing like japanese reliability. Chevy and ford are junk. My Dad is a big fan of domestics and he spends more time working on them than racing them. The Z will out accelerate, out handle, and the ecu upgrade I talked about gets rid of the governor. Don't waste your time on trying to get those other pieces of junk fast. Go with the proven engineering of the Z. I have three and I personally believe they are the best cars every built. I built an 11 second car for 7 thousand dollars!
You know its not cool coming in here on your 3rd post bashing other peoples choice of cars.
my truck is still on the road after almost 30 years....where will your car be at that age? oh yah the junk yard
You know its not cool coming in here on your 3rd post bashing other peoples choice of cars.
my truck is still on the road after almost 30 years....where will your car be at that age? oh yah the junk yard
k3smostwanted
12-10-2004, 08:29 PM
....where will your car be at that age? oh yah the junk yard
are you or are you not basically just doing the same thing he just did by basically calling the 300zx junk???
stop bashing cars fellas'...good cars are good cars in different ways. jeez...
and really to say a car is gonna be in the junkyard because it is 30 years old is just stupid...all cars will last as long as the owner wants it too. dont be ignorant...
and on the other hand of that...saying a car is junk because it is american made is also very ignorant.
are you or are you not basically just doing the same thing he just did by basically calling the 300zx junk???
stop bashing cars fellas'...good cars are good cars in different ways. jeez...
and really to say a car is gonna be in the junkyard because it is 30 years old is just stupid...all cars will last as long as the owner wants it too. dont be ignorant...
and on the other hand of that...saying a car is junk because it is american made is also very ignorant.
TatII
12-10-2004, 09:16 PM
hmmm rednecks 72 Z is still kicking major ass. and his car ran fine before he did the SR20DET swap on the original L30 straight 6 engine.
Layla's Keeper
12-10-2004, 09:51 PM
With comparable tires and smooth pavement, the 4rd generation Camaro handles equally good if not better than the Z32 300ZX. One only needs to look at the way the 4th gen F-bodies have dominated near stock road racing classes like SCCA Touring II and Grand Am Cup to see that they are excellent road racing machines.
GM did a lot right in those F body chassis. The engine is set very far back in the chassis (in fact, everything behind the #3-4 cylinders is underneath the cowl, speaking as someone who's had to change sparkplugs in those things before) and the front suspension is a durable and well done unequal length A-arm setup.
Let's not forget that when it was first introduced in 1993, the new Camaro was pulling .90g's on the skidpad and the car could dash through the slalom at 60+mph.
That's right there with the 300ZX and in a cheaper, more user friendly package with more tunability.
GM did a lot right in those F body chassis. The engine is set very far back in the chassis (in fact, everything behind the #3-4 cylinders is underneath the cowl, speaking as someone who's had to change sparkplugs in those things before) and the front suspension is a durable and well done unequal length A-arm setup.
Let's not forget that when it was first introduced in 1993, the new Camaro was pulling .90g's on the skidpad and the car could dash through the slalom at 60+mph.
That's right there with the 300ZX and in a cheaper, more user friendly package with more tunability.
chevydrummer76
12-10-2004, 10:21 PM
yah i was just making a point.....
i hate it when people join the forum just to bash on other cars...i mean its his 3rd post and already hes sayin ford and chevy are crap.....
i hate it when people join the forum just to bash on other cars...i mean its his 3rd post and already hes sayin ford and chevy are crap.....
k3smostwanted
12-10-2004, 11:10 PM
yah i was just making a point.....
i hate it when people join the forum just to bash on other cars...i mean its his 3rd post and already hes sayin ford and chevy are crap.....
yeah i understand what you were trying to do...not harm done...:D
i hate it when people join the forum just to bash on other cars...i mean its his 3rd post and already hes sayin ford and chevy are crap.....
yeah i understand what you were trying to do...not harm done...:D
lookin4wheels
12-10-2004, 11:33 PM
how much does is cost for a 300zxtt? I mean for a somewhat mechanically sound one, body wouldn't have to be too nice
k3smostwanted
12-10-2004, 11:48 PM
i almost bought a 300zxTT with a rough body but the engine and transmission had less than 50,000 miles for $7k...but usually the going price on 300zxTT is anywhere from $10-18k...
lookin4wheels
12-11-2004, 09:01 AM
whoa thats way too much for me
Sticky
12-11-2004, 11:36 AM
This is an easy question. The Z will be the easiest to get crap loads of power out of. It already has turbos and lower compression. Swap out the turbos, some big injectors, new ecu. You can get well over 500 rwhp. Lets face it, there is nothing like japanese reliability. Chevy and ford are junk. My Dad is a big fan of domestics and he spends more time working on them than racing them. The Z will out accelerate, out handle, and the ecu upgrade I talked about gets rid of the governor. Don't waste your time on trying to get those other pieces of junk fast. Go with the proven engineering of the Z. I have three and I personally believe they are the best cars every built. I built an 11 second car for 7 thousand dollars!
Could a 300ZXTT take the late Mustang Cobra and Camaro SS? The places I looked it ran a low 14 stock(www.carfolio.com), while the mustang has hit the high 12's and a SS low 13's. Obviously Ford and Chevy "junk" can beat your car stock for stock. And with 7k invested into them...well...bye bye.
I'm not trying to bash on the 300ZX, and yes I do perfer domestics. The 300ZX is a nice car but people like him need to realize that american cars aren't the way they were in the late 70's and early 80's.
Could a 300ZXTT take the late Mustang Cobra and Camaro SS? The places I looked it ran a low 14 stock(www.carfolio.com), while the mustang has hit the high 12's and a SS low 13's. Obviously Ford and Chevy "junk" can beat your car stock for stock. And with 7k invested into them...well...bye bye.
I'm not trying to bash on the 300ZX, and yes I do perfer domestics. The 300ZX is a nice car but people like him need to realize that american cars aren't the way they were in the late 70's and early 80's.
TatII
12-11-2004, 01:09 PM
stock TT Z's usually runs high to mid 13's. also the car came out in 89. so compare it to a camaro from 89 or a mustang from 89 or even vette from 89 and you'll see what they were talkin about.
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